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"Things would change, but nothing would change"....

Posted on: September 13, 2019 at 13:04:46 CT
zounami MU
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Is that the point you're trying to make?

By the way, the premise of this discussion is what would happen if the NCAA allows pay-for-play (via sham "endorsement deals" etc.) as mandated by the "Fair Pay to Play Act" passed by the California state legislature this week.






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Question for zodiac & other proponents of allowing student- - zounami MU - 9/12 20:10:07
     Simple, donors will then be giving players more than allowed - tigertix MU - 9/13 12:59:24
          "Things would change, but nothing would change".... - zounami MU - 9/13 13:04:46
     Excellent question. Also, how would the students - BingBing MU - 9/13 11:03:30
          fans would definitely have a right to be more critical of - zounami MU - 9/13 11:42:30
     There's only about 8 schools that "compete" now, nothing - ShowMeKid MU - 9/13 11:01:50
          Wrong. Lots of schools are in the hunt for conference and - zounami MU - 9/13 11:24:30
               This is the view of Coach Bohl, Wyoming's coach, so I tend - ShowMeKid MU - 9/13 12:12:47
                    Currently, it's possible for Mizzou to compete for - zounami MU - 9/13 12:24:09
     RE: Question for zodiac & other proponents of allowing student- - Ragarm MU - 9/13 09:59:20
     Create the MU "J'Mon Moore endorsement of Social Justice" - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 9/13 08:50:27
          Let it go - Hickeytime MU - 9/13 09:26:06
               It's been four years. Ain't happening.(nm) - Fool on the Hill MU - 9/13 10:31:02
     You mean the big schools with lots of donor support would - josey-wales MU - 9/13 08:49:56
          RE: You mean the big schools with lots of donor support would - Bobber MU - 9/13 09:10:24
     I need my touches coach, - justwinbaby KC - 9/13 08:35:56
     Totally agree - it will be a huge problem and - MKrip MU - 9/13 08:18:10
     That's cool make sure you stay in the right lane except to - ColoradoBlueTiger MU - 9/13 08:02:59
     Imagine if college football was dominated by 2 programs - gregor macgregor MU - 9/13 07:49:42
          We reached a #1 ranking as recently as 2007, and have - zounami MU - 9/13 11:21:52
          That is happening now...is the sport ruined for you? Nm - BandG MU - 9/13 08:51:34
               Wrong. Lots of schools are in the hunt for conference and - zounami MU - 9/13 11:16:53
               It was sarcasm... - gregor macgregor MU - 9/13 11:14:38
     I agree with you. I don't support professional sports in - SuperTone MU - 9/13 07:38:31
          Exactly - it's NOT about the money for the fans - Genco98 MU - 9/13 10:01:33
               excellent point (nm) - zounami MU - 9/13 12:32:37
     They will have no reasonable answer to that.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 9/13 07:29:17
     The term "student-athlete" has been a misnomer for years. - Fourth and Long MU - 9/13 06:58:56
          99.9% of the college football and basketball players - SuperTone MU - 9/13 07:41:43
     That's what recruiting is now - Mormad MU - 9/12 21:36:09
          no, not even close.... - zounami MU - 9/12 21:48:10
               I know right. No way it takes Texas 48 hrs to up a 50K bid(nm) - JG MU - 9/12 22:38:21
     College sports has long been about money. Billions for - Fred G. Sanford USA - 9/12 21:35:42
          The NCAA is just a casino - Iam4Mizzou MU - 9/13 06:50:39
          That’s not why the fans are there - Genco98 MU - 9/12 22:03:08
               Why are they there?(nm) - zodiac6 JC - 9/12 22:56:22
                    RE: Why are they there?(nm) - SEMO_Hillbilly MU - 9/13 12:20:16
                         well said (nm) - zounami MU - 9/13 12:30:04
                    RE: Why are they there?(nm) - Genco98 MU - 9/13 06:46:13
     Woe is me, the sky is falling . . . - ScottsdaleTiger MU - 9/12 21:35:01
          What might that market regulation scheme be?(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 9/13 07:30:37
               Any number of possible schemes - ScottsdaleTiger MU - 9/13 13:09:14
                    Let's hear one that would work in this case. (nm) - zounami MU - 9/13 13:13:08
               *crickets* - zounami MU - 9/13 12:28:41
          You're the one assuming things. I'm asking about the - zounami MU - 9/12 21:40:19
               OK, let's just have a totally free and unregulated market. - ScottsdaleTiger MU - 9/13 13:16:36
                    (1) You dodged the question. (2) Markets are regulated to - zounami MU - 9/13 13:30:05
     It's a slippery slope. What stops them from building in - jake_mu MU - 9/12 21:03:59
          RE: It's a slippery slope. What stops them from building in - THEGROVE68 MU - 9/12 23:28:11
          If you want pure amateur athletics - zodiac6 JC - 9/12 22:41:09
          most Olympic athletes endorsements are performance based - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/12 21:16:42
     I wouldn't. - zodiac6 JC - 9/12 20:44:03
          our booster network would not be competitive. - SuperTone MU - 9/13 07:43:04
               correct (nm) - zounami MU - 9/13 12:14:19
          It would change the game completely and you know it... - zounami MU - 9/12 21:06:00
               It might. And it might help us. - zodiac6 JC - 9/12 22:36:42
                    If these players were being forced to play NCAA sports... - zounami MU - 9/13 00:01:43
                    RE: It might. And it might help us. - THEGROVE68 MU - 9/12 23:37:59
               Also missing some of the collateral damage. - jake_mu MU - 9/12 21:09:58
          But it would stop you from ever getting - Genco98 MU - 9/12 20:53:18
               Unless they saw the potential of endorsements from leading - zodiac6 JC - 9/12 22:37:54
               exactly... we would have virtually no chance of landing any - zounami MU - 9/12 21:08:21
                    WADR: Mizzou has no shortage of wealthy alums, most just - ScottsdaleTiger MU - 9/12 21:37:09
                         You're reinforcing my point. Mizzou couldn't compete in - zounami MU - 9/12 21:47:00
                              Why does Mizzou need to compete? - ScottsdaleTiger MU - 9/12 22:09:59
                                   RE: Why does Mizzou need to compete? - THEGROVE68 MU - 9/12 23:48:04
                                        Why do the Ivy League schools have the largest endowments? - ScottsdaleTiger MU - 9/13 13:13:00
                                             You're comparing apples & oranges... - zounami MU - 9/13 13:22:31
                                   This IS a sports board and competing in sports is the point - Genco98 MU - 9/12 22:16:06
                                        What's the University's function - ScottsdaleTiger MU - 9/13 13:14:30
                                   college sports have become an essential marketing vehicle - zounami MU - 9/12 22:13:56
                                        In addition to national exposure for the university, it's a - zounami MU - 9/12 22:17:55
                                   LOL nm - redngray MU - 9/12 22:11:56
                    Why? - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/12 21:22:14
                         I already answered that in the OP and the reply above.... - zounami MU - 9/12 21:31:01
                              You can regulate it - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/12 21:35:10
                                   Can you offer some examples of regulations that you think - zounami MU - 9/12 21:41:28
                                        They already have a competitive advantage (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/12 21:53:53
                                             obviously I meant *further increase* their advantage.... - zounami MU - 9/12 22:12:22
                         You really are that naive are you? - Genco98 MU - 9/12 21:27:58
                              It’s not about Mizzou or any school - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/12 21:36:18
                                   RE: It’s not about Mizzou or any school - THEGROVE68 MU - 9/12 23:56:44
                                   It is about the schools actually. The schools and its fans - zounami MU - 9/12 21:45:02
                                   Then let them train for three years and go straight to - Genco98 MU - 9/12 21:44:57
                                        what about other sports? (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/12 21:53:20
                                             RE: what about other sports? (nm) - THEGROVE68 MU - 9/12 23:59:20
                                             What other sports? - Genco98 MU - 9/12 21:59:47
                                                  Regular college students - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/12 22:17:05
                                                       You still haven't answered the question, and "regular" - zounami MU - 9/12 22:23:15
                                                            The NCAA will have to figure it out - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/12 22:29:33
                                                                 Your inability to answer my question is noted. (nm) - zounami MU - 9/12 22:33:33
                                                                      It’s the wrong question - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/12 22:37:55
                                                                           RE: It’s the wrong question - THEGROVE68 MU - 9/13 00:10:42
                                                                                There is not competitive balance now - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/13 07:30:23
                                                                                     wutangtiger on the national debt: "It's already $22 Trillion - zounami MU - 9/13 11:12:35
                                                                                          I’m pretty confident that something can be done - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/13 11:50:27
                                                                                               if you're so confident, then you must have some ideas... - zounami MU - 9/13 12:25:00
                                                                                                    Have you read the California law? - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/13 12:28:45
                                                                                                         I didn't see anything that would prevent the pay-for-play - zounami MU - 9/13 12:37:52
                                                                                                              He’s a royalties example - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/13 16:07:38
                                                                                                                   lol, that's just a generic example of how royalties work... - zounami MU - 9/13 16:41:26
                                                                                                                        its An example of how an athlete would profit off their - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/13 16:48:44
                                                                                                                             The example is generic and speculative, but shows how - zounami MU - 9/13 17:09:17
                                                                                                                                  You could regulate those - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/13 17:12:33
                                                                                                                                       How would you regulate endorsement deals? Let's hear an - zounami MU - 9/13 17:13:46
                                                                                                                                            the NCAA better figure that out - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/13 17:20:16
                                                                                                                                                 I disagree. As long as the NCAA has the support of its - zounami MU - 9/13 17:36:28
                                                                                                                                                      All it will take is a final 4 team - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/13 17:44:48
                                                                                                                                                           National title contenders don't protest. Loser teams with - zounami MU - 9/13 18:02:15
                                                                                You are right - The CHANCE has to there to get a Maclin or - Genco98 MU - 9/13 07:10:49
                                                                                exactly, well said (nm) - zounami MU - 9/13 01:18:08
     donors are giving money to star recruits now. This just - MrTruman2U MU - 9/12 20:28:54
          With the risk of getting caught & punished by the NCAA... - zounami MU - 9/12 20:39:20
               You could just as easily point to the 21st amendment. - zodiac6 JC - 9/12 20:46:51
                    No, "people break the law so let's repeal the law" has never - zounami MU - 9/12 21:20:00
                         “The law doesn’t work as intended,” though - zodiac6 JC - 9/12 22:40:22
                              The NCAA has been very effective at curbing pay-for-play... - zounami MU - 9/13 00:09:26




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