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Posted on: March 6, 2025 at 09:50:41 CT
DHighlander NWMSU
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mechanisms have always been there.

The state never took over the KC district. As a matter of fact they did everything in their power to avoid taking it over. They went as far as changing the rules to make sure KC got it accreditation back before they were forced to take it over.

The Missouri DoE knew that they could not fix what was wrong in the KC schools and did not want to take on a failing project.

Failing schools are a symptom, not the problem. Failing communities have failing schools. You cannot fix the schools before first addressing the community issues.
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I know there is somewhat of a debate over whether - Outsider MU - 3/6 08:24:06
     Ther easy way to end the Department of Education is to have - tigertix MU - 3/6 10:13:56
     Education is not a federal duty - BigDave MU - 3/6 09:38:45
          Education should be left to local school boards - Spanky KU - 3/6 10:34:40
               RE: Education should be left to local school boards - sarasotatiger MU - 3/6 12:04:26
          I agree mostly with what you say… - Outsider MU - 3/6 09:58:59
               Those things already happen - BigDave MU - 3/6 10:44:34
               If a small department were left it would eventually bloat - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/6 10:24:38
               RE: I agree mostly with what you say… - sarasotatiger MU - 3/6 10:05:01
                    Does it need 4500 employees making an - Outsider MU - 3/6 10:14:39
                         lol (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 3/6 11:17:11
                              Fixed. Sorry, I don’t catch my m and b mistakes. (nm) - Outsider MU - 3/6 11:26:16
                                   Nm (nm) - Outsider MU - 3/6 11:30:37
          the Constitution is just a piece of paper - Seagull MU - 3/6 09:52:48
               RE: the Constitution is just a piece of paper - sarasotatiger MU - 3/6 10:08:45
          RE: Education is not a federal duty - sarasotatiger MU - 3/6 09:45:52
               School districts are absolutely a business - BigDave MU - 3/6 10:52:12
                    RE: School districts are absolutely a business - sarasotatiger MU - 3/6 12:06:29
                         You are thinking about corporations - BigDave MU - 3/6 12:23:48
                              RE: You are thinking about corporations - sarasotatiger MU - 3/6 12:37:29
                              Most of the costs to education come from us attempting to - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/6 12:28:57
                                   RE: Most of the costs to education come from us attempting to - sarasotatiger MU - 3/6 12:39:07
                                        One can argue that it should or should not be done but it - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/6 12:52:46
                                             Correct. It is only expensive - BigDave MU - 3/6 13:51:21
               If things have changed then change the Constitution, the - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/6 09:50:41
                    RE: If things have changed then change the Constitution, the - sarasotatiger MU - 3/6 10:03:36
                         Are you suggesting that you disagree with my statement? - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/6 10:23:21
               jfc so ignore all of the constitution not just the parts you - 90Tiger STL - 3/6 09:50:23
     Some students just use AI for their homework and - KCT-BoneTiger MU - 3/6 09:24:34
          RE: Some students just use AI for their homework and - sarasotatiger MU - 3/6 09:38:09
     I think we could have one but drastically reduce size. - GA Tiger MU - 3/6 09:17:13
          RE: I think we could have one but drastically reduce size. - sarasotatiger MU - 3/6 09:56:11
     consistent marxist and communist propaganda maker. Dems - TigerFan92 STL - 3/6 09:15:07
          RE: consistent marxist and communist propaganda maker. Dems - sarasotatiger MU - 3/6 09:40:00
          Your schools failed to teach you critical thinking. You see - TigerMatt STL - 3/6 09:26:17
               RE: Your schools failed to teach you critical thinking. You see - sarasotatiger MU - 3/6 09:48:28
     RE: I know there is somewhat of a debate over whether - sarasotatiger MU - 3/6 08:39:49
     This is from a lifelong teacher. Every single state has a - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/6 08:37:04
          how will this impact state funding?(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 3/6 09:14:16
               There is no reason it should. The Fed DoE is just a middle - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/6 09:39:09
                    RE: There is no reason it should. The Fed DoE is just a middle - sarasotatiger MU - 3/6 09:55:10
                         There is no reason the state DoEs cannot do what you are - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/6 10:26:36
          Up to Congress - sks MU - 3/6 09:02:49
               Those SHOULD be their main functions, they are not currently - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/6 09:41:54
                    RE: Those SHOULD be their main functions, they are not currently - sarasotatiger MU - 3/6 10:00:04
                         Your last two sentences are total BS. Districts want to - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/6 10:31:11
                              RE: Your last two sentences are total BS. Districts want to - sarasotatiger MU - 3/6 12:16:30
                              Wrong - sks MU - 3/6 11:18:34
                                   Not clueless at all. 35 years in urban education. Good - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/6 11:26:47
          RE: This is from a lifelong teacher. Every single state has a - sarasotatiger MU - 3/6 08:53:52
               this type of oversight? - CulturedDan MU - 3/6 09:28:45
                    RE: this type of oversight? - sarasotatiger MU - 3/6 10:17:48
               Why do we need a federal dept. looking over the shoulder of - BH O'bonga MU - 3/6 08:59:36
                    RE: Why do we need a federal dept. looking over the shoulder of - sarasotatiger MU - 3/6 09:33:18
                    Consistency between states is the argument - sks MU - 3/6 09:09:44
                         "consistency between the states" - 90Tiger STL - 3/6 11:08:35
                         Is that a federal issue? Is it a constitutional issue?(nm) - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/6 09:43:14
                         RE: Consistency between states: The same could be argued - BH O'bonga MU - 3/6 09:36:14
                         RE: Consistency between states is the argument - sarasotatiger MU - 3/6 09:35:57
                         why should standards be uniform across the country? - Seagull MU - 3/6 09:13:08
                              RE: why should standards be uniform across the country? - sarasotatiger MU - 3/6 12:41:24
                                   sorry, but that doesn't answer my question (nm) - Seagull MU - 3/6 13:32:19
                                   You may have answered it but it was a nonsense response(nm) - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/6 12:55:54
                              RE: why should standards be uniform across the country? - sks MU - 3/6 09:26:42
                    Should let the states decide on who can play what sports? - KCT-BoneTiger MU - 3/6 09:07:32
                         as long as they receive federal money there will be - Seagull MU - 3/6 09:14:18
                              Elimination of the DoE does not eliminate federal funding. - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/6 09:44:42
                              I guess if Musk’s DOGE cuts the funding then states can make - KCT-BoneTiger MU - 3/6 09:27:46
                                   states can already make their own decision, genius, they - 90Tiger STL - 3/6 11:10:35
                                   what do you think happens if a state violated the EO? (nm) - Seagull MU - 3/6 09:45:44
                    thta department could be 25 people - FootballRefugee MU - 3/6 09:05:29
          RE: This is from a lifelong teacher. Every single state has a - sarasotatiger MU - 3/6 08:40:49
               Seriously? (nm) - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/6 09:29:11
               you can't be this stupid. They are solely responsible for - TigerFan92 STL - 3/6 09:17:47
                    RE: you can't be this stupid. They are solely responsible for - sks MU - 3/6 09:31:43
                         Totally agree. A pizz poor teacher with motivated students - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/6 09:36:48
                              Exactly - sks MU - 3/6 09:42:25
                                   I have been in the classroom for 35 years now. There is not - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/6 09:46:13
               Where has the Union fought for higher standards - Outsider MU - 3/6 08:54:05
                    Your first paragraph is incorrect. The teachers' unions - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/6 09:34:14
               I'm not a teacher - Wildcat KSU - 3/6 08:45:29
                    Obviously a matter of opinion - sks MU - 3/6 09:15:09
                    RE: I'm not a teacher - sarasotatiger MU - 3/6 08:47:03
                         Right. I live without Unions - Wildcat KSU - 3/6 16:09:49
                         many seek to do exactly that - FootballRefugee MU - 3/6 08:54:51
          ..effectively neuter the power of the teacher unions - Wildcat KSU - 3/6 08:40:42
     Given the first rule of a bureaucracy,... - kp83 MU - 3/6 08:29:09
     the first one is the constitutionality metric. the second i - 90Tiger STL - 3/6 08:27:54




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