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RE: you can't be this stupid. They are solely responsible for

Posted on: March 6, 2025 at 09:31:43 CT
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You really don't understand communism. As a former teacher, I would be fine with pay for performance. I generally promote rewarding people for their performance. I just havent seen a pay-for-performance proposal that works for education. It would be great if it can be figured out. No class is the same, no teacher is the same. When I taught, I was in a public school but certified by Special Ed, so my classes tended to have the lower performing students. Early on, got a lot of grief for the low grades in my classes. SHould I ahve given higher grades so I could show my students were performing better? If you use standardized tests, should I have been paid less if my students scored lower, given that I was given the lowere performers to begin with? Its a great idea, but very difficult to do in rpactice. ANd no, teacher unions are not responsible for the decline in education. You can be that stupid I guess.
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I know there is somewhat of a debate over whether - Outsider MU - 3/6 08:24:06
     Ther easy way to end the Department of Education is to have - tigertix MU - 3/6 10:13:56
     Education is not a federal duty - BigDave MU - 3/6 09:38:45
          Education should be left to local school boards - Spanky KU - 3/6 10:34:40
               RE: Education should be left to local school boards - sarasotatiger MU - 3/6 12:04:26
          I agree mostly with what you say… - Outsider MU - 3/6 09:58:59
               Those things already happen - BigDave MU - 3/6 10:44:34
               If a small department were left it would eventually bloat - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/6 10:24:38
               RE: I agree mostly with what you say… - sarasotatiger MU - 3/6 10:05:01
                    Does it need 4500 employees making an - Outsider MU - 3/6 10:14:39
                         lol (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 3/6 11:17:11
                              Fixed. Sorry, I don’t catch my m and b mistakes. (nm) - Outsider MU - 3/6 11:26:16
                                   Nm (nm) - Outsider MU - 3/6 11:30:37
          the Constitution is just a piece of paper - Seagull MU - 3/6 09:52:48
               RE: the Constitution is just a piece of paper - sarasotatiger MU - 3/6 10:08:45
          RE: Education is not a federal duty - sarasotatiger MU - 3/6 09:45:52
               School districts are absolutely a business - BigDave MU - 3/6 10:52:12
                    RE: School districts are absolutely a business - sarasotatiger MU - 3/6 12:06:29
                         You are thinking about corporations - BigDave MU - 3/6 12:23:48
                              RE: You are thinking about corporations - sarasotatiger MU - 3/6 12:37:29
                              Most of the costs to education come from us attempting to - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/6 12:28:57
                                   RE: Most of the costs to education come from us attempting to - sarasotatiger MU - 3/6 12:39:07
                                        One can argue that it should or should not be done but it - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/6 12:52:46
                                             Correct. It is only expensive - BigDave MU - 3/6 13:51:21
               If things have changed then change the Constitution, the - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/6 09:50:41
                    RE: If things have changed then change the Constitution, the - sarasotatiger MU - 3/6 10:03:36
                         Are you suggesting that you disagree with my statement? - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/6 10:23:21
               jfc so ignore all of the constitution not just the parts you - 90Tiger STL - 3/6 09:50:23
     Some students just use AI for their homework and - KCT-BoneTiger MU - 3/6 09:24:34
          RE: Some students just use AI for their homework and - sarasotatiger MU - 3/6 09:38:09
     I think we could have one but drastically reduce size. - GA Tiger MU - 3/6 09:17:13
          RE: I think we could have one but drastically reduce size. - sarasotatiger MU - 3/6 09:56:11
     consistent marxist and communist propaganda maker. Dems - TigerFan92 STL - 3/6 09:15:07
          RE: consistent marxist and communist propaganda maker. Dems - sarasotatiger MU - 3/6 09:40:00
          Your schools failed to teach you critical thinking. You see - TigerMatt STL - 3/6 09:26:17
               RE: Your schools failed to teach you critical thinking. You see - sarasotatiger MU - 3/6 09:48:28
     RE: I know there is somewhat of a debate over whether - sarasotatiger MU - 3/6 08:39:49
     This is from a lifelong teacher. Every single state has a - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/6 08:37:04
          how will this impact state funding?(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 3/6 09:14:16
               There is no reason it should. The Fed DoE is just a middle - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/6 09:39:09
                    RE: There is no reason it should. The Fed DoE is just a middle - sarasotatiger MU - 3/6 09:55:10
                         There is no reason the state DoEs cannot do what you are - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/6 10:26:36
          Up to Congress - sks MU - 3/6 09:02:49
               Those SHOULD be their main functions, they are not currently - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/6 09:41:54
                    RE: Those SHOULD be their main functions, they are not currently - sarasotatiger MU - 3/6 10:00:04
                         Your last two sentences are total BS. Districts want to - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/6 10:31:11
                              RE: Your last two sentences are total BS. Districts want to - sarasotatiger MU - 3/6 12:16:30
                              Wrong - sks MU - 3/6 11:18:34
                                   Not clueless at all. 35 years in urban education. Good - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/6 11:26:47
          RE: This is from a lifelong teacher. Every single state has a - sarasotatiger MU - 3/6 08:53:52
               this type of oversight? - CulturedDan MU - 3/6 09:28:45
                    RE: this type of oversight? - sarasotatiger MU - 3/6 10:17:48
               Why do we need a federal dept. looking over the shoulder of - BH O'bonga MU - 3/6 08:59:36
                    RE: Why do we need a federal dept. looking over the shoulder of - sarasotatiger MU - 3/6 09:33:18
                    Consistency between states is the argument - sks MU - 3/6 09:09:44
                         "consistency between the states" - 90Tiger STL - 3/6 11:08:35
                         Is that a federal issue? Is it a constitutional issue?(nm) - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/6 09:43:14
                         RE: Consistency between states: The same could be argued - BH O'bonga MU - 3/6 09:36:14
                         RE: Consistency between states is the argument - sarasotatiger MU - 3/6 09:35:57
                         why should standards be uniform across the country? - Seagull MU - 3/6 09:13:08
                              RE: why should standards be uniform across the country? - sarasotatiger MU - 3/6 12:41:24
                                   sorry, but that doesn't answer my question (nm) - Seagull MU - 3/6 13:32:19
                                   You may have answered it but it was a nonsense response(nm) - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/6 12:55:54
                              RE: why should standards be uniform across the country? - sks MU - 3/6 09:26:42
                    Should let the states decide on who can play what sports? - KCT-BoneTiger MU - 3/6 09:07:32
                         as long as they receive federal money there will be - Seagull MU - 3/6 09:14:18
                              Elimination of the DoE does not eliminate federal funding. - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/6 09:44:42
                              I guess if Musk’s DOGE cuts the funding then states can make - KCT-BoneTiger MU - 3/6 09:27:46
                                   states can already make their own decision, genius, they - 90Tiger STL - 3/6 11:10:35
                                   what do you think happens if a state violated the EO? (nm) - Seagull MU - 3/6 09:45:44
                    thta department could be 25 people - FootballRefugee MU - 3/6 09:05:29
          RE: This is from a lifelong teacher. Every single state has a - sarasotatiger MU - 3/6 08:40:49
               Seriously? (nm) - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/6 09:29:11
               you can't be this stupid. They are solely responsible for - TigerFan92 STL - 3/6 09:17:47
                    RE: you can't be this stupid. They are solely responsible for - sks MU - 3/6 09:31:43
                         Totally agree. A pizz poor teacher with motivated students - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/6 09:36:48
                              Exactly - sks MU - 3/6 09:42:25
                                   I have been in the classroom for 35 years now. There is not - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/6 09:46:13
               Where has the Union fought for higher standards - Outsider MU - 3/6 08:54:05
                    Your first paragraph is incorrect. The teachers' unions - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/6 09:34:14
               I'm not a teacher - Wildcat KSU - 3/6 08:45:29
                    Obviously a matter of opinion - sks MU - 3/6 09:15:09
                    RE: I'm not a teacher - sarasotatiger MU - 3/6 08:47:03
                         Right. I live without Unions - Wildcat KSU - 3/6 16:09:49
                         many seek to do exactly that - FootballRefugee MU - 3/6 08:54:51
          ..effectively neuter the power of the teacher unions - Wildcat KSU - 3/6 08:40:42
     Given the first rule of a bureaucracy,... - kp83 MU - 3/6 08:29:09
     the first one is the constitutionality metric. the second i - 90Tiger STL - 3/6 08:27:54




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