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Posted on: June 7, 2021 at 15:21:48 CT
sprintcar
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Article on the impact of MU giving up on men's basketball
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FIJItiger
MU
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6/7 08:16:19
Loser mentality. Often present in the minds of losers.
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MNTIGER
MU
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6/7 13:27:06
Missouri continues to pay the price for the hiring of Haith
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alstl
MU
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6/7 13:09:45
RE: Missouri continues to pay the price for the hiring of Haith
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slamduncan
KC
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6/7 23:14:12
No, Quin was an excellent hire that simply got
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zounami
MU
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6/8 00:35:50
He cratered the program and made it a no-win situation
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go tigers
MU
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6/7 17:36:50
yeah, 23+ wins per season and top 20 recruiting classes...
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zounami
MU
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6/7 17:38:24
You misspelled Kim Anderson, & the SEC is why our AD budget
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zounami
MU
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6/7 13:42:21
They had to give away 5,000 free tickets to our big rival
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alstl
MU
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6/7 21:48:33
Was that during COVID or the Odom era? (nm)
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zounami
MU
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6/8 00:35:00
No, the first mistake was Frank and that led to
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alwaysright
MU
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6/7 15:49:51
KY kept every Haith recruit plus hired the prep school
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tigertix
MU
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6/7 17:39:45
That is not what I said.
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alwaysright
MU
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6/8 10:22:30
How did hiring Haith "lead to Kim"...? (nm)
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zounami
MU
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6/7 16:05:52
The Haith situation put pressure and stress on Alden
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alwaysright
MU
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6/7 16:57:42
lol, nice try... The program was still in good shape when
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zounami
MU
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6/7 17:07:34
Why take this out on KA?
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WrightWing
MU
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6/8 00:20:05
I'm not. I blamed our incompetent administration for Kim...
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zounami
MU
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6/8 00:34:06
Well, FFH was TERRIBLE
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WrightWing
MU
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6/8 00:49:15
Kim brought in way more bad actors than he inherited
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FIJItiger
MU
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6/8 14:07:43
This is pure spin. Haith was a far better coach than Kim...
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zounami
MU
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6/8 01:07:00
Its not spin, its just entirely inaccurate and backwards(nm)
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FIJItiger
MU
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6/8 13:40:36
Haith
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KC rules
MU
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6/7 17:28:07
Haith won 23 or more games every season. He averaged over 25
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zounami
MU
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6/7 17:34:57
Regardless
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KC rules
MU
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6/7 22:33:14
That's total nonsense. (nm)
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zounami
MU
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6/8 00:28:11
Hardly
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KC rules
MU
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6/8 00:43:55
The program was still up on the cliff, but it was
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alwaysright
MU
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6/7 17:15:12
This is the rotation Haith would have had that year
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alwaysright
MU
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6/7 17:21:46
That's nonsense. Nothing prevented us from hiring Howland...
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zounami
MU
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6/7 17:18:29
The U admin was against it becuase he had bs NCAA
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alwaysright
MU
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6/7 17:22:45
Wrong. Howland has never had NCAA allegations against him.
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zounami
MU
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6/7 17:28:42
There were accusations of ncaa violations and
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alwaysright
MU
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6/8 10:24:12
Wrong again. He wasn't even accused of NCAA violations. (nm)
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zounami
MU
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6/8 13:17:22
Yes he was. He did not have ncaa charges...those come from
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alwaysright
MU
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6/11 09:48:16
What’s up with Howland love?
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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6/7 17:34:02
More like 3 in 4... Those first 2 years were rebuilds at a
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zounami
MU
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6/7 17:36:04
Interesting
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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6/7 17:45:26
How so? (nm)
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zounami
MU
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6/7 17:55:06
This was your take on Geist back in 2017
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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6/7 18:04:34
That's more of an indictment on Kim than anything...
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zounami
MU
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6/7 18:20:04
X? Tilmon?
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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6/7 20:30:09
MU was a combined 92 games over .500 in their last 13 season
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FIJItiger
MU
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6/7 13:13:26
nah, we just need to hire a good hard-working HC like Drink
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zounami
MU
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6/7 12:52:30
Wow, this is such a stupid post.
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GeorgiaTiger76
MU
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6/7 12:44:48
One of the biggest negative impacts was
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Fred G. Sanford
U
S
A
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6/7 11:48:46
RE: One of the biggest negative impacts was
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slamduncan
KC
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6/7 23:01:31
Hearnes Center is an outdated dump
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quicksand
MU
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6/7 19:31:18
When it was new, it was great for
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tigersailor
MU
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6/8 06:59:24
Hearnes Center was usually pretty full
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implode
STL
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6/7 16:18:57
Agree that has been a decent part of this disaster(nm)
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Genco98
MU
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6/7 13:10:59
That was really just bad luck.
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GeorgiaTiger76
MU
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6/7 12:49:11
He also drove away locals who would attend
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Genco98
MU
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6/7 13:20:38
short sighted. Money now and not think of the future.
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SabertoothTiger
MU
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6/7 15:19:24
I dunno.' Went to Mizzou from 87-91 and Hearnes was
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Diamond Dave
MU
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6/7 11:57:10
Me too, 86-91 for me. nm.
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MUTGR
MU
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6/8 01:47:28
We're gonna continue to be irrelevant for a while.
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MUHoopster
MU
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6/7 11:04:17
3+ million a year for CM when he openly says
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cal tiger
MU
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6/7 16:10:27
It's like the old saying: When someone tells/shows you
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zounami
MU
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6/7 17:25:39
Good gosh, we can and for the most part are doing as
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Lt. J. Dangle
MU
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6/7 12:33:07
Didn't really have an option on "keeping" MA and what has
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Diamond Dave
MU
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6/7 12:07:38
Can't really isolate the mistake to hiring Haith
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FIJItiger
MU
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6/7 12:05:47
Haith was done after the Norfolk State disaster.
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GeorgiaTiger76
MU
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6/7 12:47:30
English was hurt, we had a short bench
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cal tiger
MU
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6/7 16:22:21
Your recollection of timeline is off
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FIJItiger
MU
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6/7 12:53:29
Hire a rehabbed and ready-to-go Gregg Marshall(nm)
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Diamond Dave
MU
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6/7 12:01:12
^^^ this^^^(nm)
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DollarSigns
MU
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6/7 18:44:02
I'd rather hire a young and upcoming Kim English*
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OntheMark
MU
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6/7 13:27:59
That would be woke AF(nm)
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DollarSigns
MU
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6/7 18:43:19
Let’s see how he does first
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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6/7 13:36:56
It's worth a try, but at 58 years old and the reputational
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zounami
MU
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6/7 12:59:51
RE: We're gonna continue to be irrelevant for a while.
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HSCoach
STL
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6/7 11:42:18
As it pertains to your last paragraph, Mizzou should avoid
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alwaysright
MU
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6/7 11:25:22
Why would you avoid top 25 players?
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FIJItiger
MU
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6/7 12:00:52
It’s a different game now. MU needs guys to play 3-4 years.
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alwaysright
MU
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6/7 12:21:03
Rosburg, Puryear, Nikko, Mitchell Smith, Tilmon
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FIJItiger
MU
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6/7 12:27:42
There are thousands of players in between these
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alwaysright
MU
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6/7 12:39:29
Well there are none at MU, just those 5 examples
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FIJItiger
MU
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6/7 12:44:06
Even if we had Quin, who could get top 25’s, MU should
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alwaysright
MU
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6/7 12:47:20
Villanova gets top 25 recruits
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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6/7 12:53:45
Don’t think they had any on their first title
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alwaysright
MU
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6/7 14:55:30
Brunson was on both championship teams
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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6/7 15:04:01
Ok, I disagree. That sounds like how Kim approached it(nm)
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FIJItiger
MU
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6/7 12:48:38
That is not true. There is a huge world of high-quality
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alwaysright
MU
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6/7 14:56:20
Mitch and Pickett also stayed
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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6/7 12:30:51
Good catch, should have included Mitch. Just edited (nm)
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FIJItiger
MU
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6/7 12:35:06
I wouldn’t avoid the top 25 type recruits
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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6/7 11:29:56
If you follow the recruiting plan that I have rehashed
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alwaysright
MU
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6/7 11:33:39
Yea I think it’s bad strategy to not recruit
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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6/7 12:04:19
I think your last paragraph is exactly right (nm)
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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6/7 11:11:12
Eh, I believe we should aspire to be better than MN, ISU and
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Lt. J. Dangle
MU
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6/7 12:25:04
It needs to be done in steps
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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6/7 12:28:52
Well, isn't that it is what is being done? I don't think
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Lt. J. Dangle
MU
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6/7 12:36:32
I see you didn’t zero in on Iowa and Wisconsin (nm)
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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6/7 12:42:17
Correct. I believe those two are valid, the others are not(nm)
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Lt. J. Dangle
MU
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6/7 12:53:52
There are several others that I think you could include
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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6/7 12:57:40
I was just his list in the final paragraph. And I agree
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Lt. J. Dangle
MU
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6/7 13:06:16
You are skipping a step, the most important one
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FIJItiger
MU
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6/7 12:34:16
I think this staff is better than you do
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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6/7 12:38:01
You only believe that because you believe the level
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FIJItiger
MU
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6/7 12:41:55
I disagree small philosophical changes
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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6/7 12:45:23
If deployed correctly and successfully it is enough to
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FIJItiger
MU
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6/7 12:47:48
Even with a poor defense Mizzou finished 7th
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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6/7 12:56:07
Fair enough. 2021 told me they can't do it (nm)
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FIJItiger
MU
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6/7 12:59:08
2021 told me they needed to keep their athleticism
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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6/7 13:04:54
I think its likely we lose some/all of those guys in the
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FIJItiger
MU
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6/7 13:09:53
Obviously not all of them are going to work out
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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6/7 13:12:52
The rest of the league upgraded their coaches will force MU
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Erwin Fletcher
STL
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6/7 10:47:55
Apologies, didn't mean to imply that hiring Cuonzo was
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FIJItiger
MU
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6/7 11:52:17
I agree that the two hires previous to that were not worthy
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Erwin Fletcher
STL
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6/7 16:36:05
Mizzou had to over pay for its hire in 2017
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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6/7 16:40:05
But they did it(nm)
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Erwin Fletcher
STL
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6/7 19:05:18
Right that was the point
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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6/7 20:27:33
Mizzou has averaged 12th in the SEC in coaches
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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6/7 10:50:37
CM was sixth. Not sure if he still is or not. Haith and KA
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Erwin Fletcher
STL
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6/7 16:33:35
When we hired CM, he was 4th in the SEC in salary
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the808bass
MU
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6/7 18:27:00
Another BS stat you throw out. KA got paid less for his
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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6/7 11:07:28
Your link is out of date
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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6/7 11:10:01
If the assistants are not getting paid that is on the head
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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6/7 11:55:59
That’s a new. Very creative (nm)
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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6/7 12:05:51
Who do you think is responsible for the assistant coaches
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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6/7 12:58:24
That assumes if we do hire a winner, we don’t step up
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tiger4real
MU
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6/7 10:56:18
I look at what happened at Illinois with Self
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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6/7 11:07:46
He was being pushed out due to piling up secondary violation
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FIJItiger
MU
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6/7 11:54:21
It is basketball
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meatiger
MU
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6/7 10:30:57
Mizzou ranked #13 in nation in attendance in Martin 1st year
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ChuckM
MU
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6/7 10:25:52
I still think a big thing was alienating the townies
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Genco98
MU
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6/7 10:11:07
Alden's acquiescence to the Normies and hiring KY was
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tigertix
MU
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6/7 09:36:30
Who is KY?
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Genco98
MU
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6/7 13:56:51
Kim Anderson put the KY to us...
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tigertix
MU
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6/7 17:40:42
What is KY?
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Genco98
MU
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6/7 19:33:38
Its about getting the right AD and coach. Its apples
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SabertoothTiger
MU
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6/7 08:49:11
I think college basketball itself is dying, so in some ways
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FIJItiger
MU
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6/7 08:53:13
RE: I think college basketball itself is dying, so in some ways
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slamduncan
KC
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6/7 22:52:52
It is stunning sometimes to realize how little interest
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Genco98
MU
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6/7 13:40:12
Student support might not comeback for MU and
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SabertoothTiger
MU
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6/7 08:58:51
Mizzou at least upgraded their coach in Cuonzo over
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tgr
MU
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6/7 08:40:39
Haith was awful, KA never should've happened, and then
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cal tiger
MU
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6/7 16:18:02
Cal would have been way better off with Cuonzo than
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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6/7 16:24:15
I think its pretty definitive at this point, that Cuonzo is
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FIJItiger
MU
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6/7 08:46:18
CM's refusal to hire good assistants that can evaluate and
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tigertix
MU
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6/7 09:38:12
Haith was the beneficiary of good players due to Andersons
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bluesox7
MU
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6/7 08:51:47
You hated Haith's offensive coaching?
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FIJItiger
MU
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6/7 08:56:17
His first team was an actual team who played together.
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sprintcar
STL
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6/7 09:06:16
Haith was able to get some skilled players in to hide
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alwaysright
MU
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6/7 09:02:28
well, I hated that NBA style offense.
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bluesox7
MU
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6/7 08:58:38
Fair enough, I think we all would be thrilled to
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FIJItiger
MU
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6/7 09:02:06
I can agree with that. I have more frustration with Cuonzo
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bluesox7
MU
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6/7 09:06:21
Mizzou was one of the most efficient in the SEC
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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6/7 09:29:00
You mean like Phil dribbling out the clock and heaving a
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sprintcar
STL
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6/7 09:10:02
I've wonder what our record would have been if we
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XRob
MU
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6/7 11:25:00
RE: Article on the impact of MU giving up on men's basketball
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scan
MU
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6/7 08:28:54
That photo.
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Newcatbirdseat
MU
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6/7 08:27:00
I think you can pretty much sum up MU in the SEC with
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FIJItiger
MU
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6/7 08:42:21
The right coach, with admin help, can ALWAYS
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GA Tiger
MU
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6/7 08:20:02
RE: The right coach, with admin help, can ALWAYS
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SEMO_Hillbilly
UMKC
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6/7 13:30:04
There is a huge difference between Drink's personality and
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sprintcar
STL
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6/7 13:41:10
I always get amused by these takes
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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6/7 15:09:23
You amuse me daily. Glad I could return the favor.(nm)
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sprintcar
STL
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6/7 15:21:48
I hope Drink is good enough to achieve the success
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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6/7 15:24:35
Who doesn't? I hope the same thing for Cuonzo. Ultimately
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sprintcar
STL
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6/7 15:39:49
I am excited for both
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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6/7 15:43:38