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Not many Zion's being recruited. That isn't how

Posted on: June 14, 2021 at 16:18:42 CT
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recruiting works for the most part, unless you are isolating it to the dirtiest program and the most highly sought after non-student athlete type recruits. Normal recruiting involves a lot more than simply paying the right people the right sum of money.
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Who could be the bball version of Drink?(nm) - ZouMiz STL - 6/13 21:39:00
     dunk?(nm) - alstl MU - 6/14 13:46:57
     Donut Eater Doc Sadler nm - Spartus MWSC - 6/14 10:42:10
     Do you mean a younger largely unproven candidate who - FIJItiger MU - 6/14 09:57:16
          Quin Snyder. Nm - BandG MU - 6/14 11:13:54
               except I don't see drink going off the rails. He seems - SabertoothTiger MU - 6/14 11:52:48
                    To be fair, it was 1999 when Quin was hired - FIJItiger MU - 6/14 11:57:24
                         I went to a Coach K seminar about the same time - SabertoothTiger MU - 6/14 12:15:50
                              Certainly the opposite approach would be making - FIJItiger MU - 6/14 12:24:03
                                   happens often. Managers at any given work place often - SabertoothTiger MU - 6/14 12:31:51
                                        MU had kind of bad assistants in the late 1990s - FIJItiger MU - 6/14 12:35:18
               Agreed, he was a good example of MU taking that approach(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 6/14 11:14:28
          A smart, high-energy coach who excels at recruiting. (nm) - zounami MU - 6/14 11:01:02
               Smart is an important distinction - FIJItiger MU - 6/14 11:13:16
                    This. Its why Drink has a chance to rise to the top. Many - SabertoothTiger MU - 6/14 11:59:49
                    Yep. Cuonzo allegedly scored a 17 on his ACT, which is - zounami MU - 6/14 11:21:01
                         Oh come on. Where do you come up with this stuff? (nm) - Lerxst MU - 6/14 19:20:30
                         To make this less currently personal, Mike Anderson is to - FIJItiger MU - 6/14 11:26:13
                         I do think that early on in CM's career, before he was rich - zounami MU - 6/14 11:25:17
                              To continue on this path, its the whole work smarter not - FIJItiger MU - 6/14 11:32:09
          McCollum would fit that then - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/14 10:18:13
               English wasn't smart enough to keep his mouth - SabertoothTiger MU - 6/14 12:25:31
                    He used to post on this board - FIJItiger MU - 6/14 12:29:33
               No on English - Diamond Dave MU - 6/14 10:30:11
                    Why? We haven’t even seen what he can do - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/14 10:34:55
                         No doubt but we cannot afford to eff up another hire - Diamond Dave MU - 6/14 10:47:34
                              While it could work out, I don't think that is the route to - FIJItiger MU - 6/14 11:36:20
                                   Dude's 101-3 in his NC years, 3 out of the last 4, with 2020 - Diamond Dave MU - 6/14 12:38:02
                                        Norm's former assistant Gary Ganer - FIJItiger MU - 6/14 12:47:22
                                             His overall record was pretty meh. Can't compare the - Diamond Dave MU - 6/14 13:07:41
                                                  Because he didn't stay in D2 (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 6/14 15:29:46
                                             Seems the most likely way for Mizzou - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/14 13:03:14
                                                  That is a recent trend/concern - FIJItiger MU - 6/14 15:28:53
                                                       When Mizzou hired Mike Anderson - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/14 15:36:35
                                                            Hmmm, I don't recall it that way. Beilein was a candidate, - FIJItiger MU - 6/14 16:02:26
                                                                 Beilein was the guy the guy - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/14 16:04:27
                                                                      I see, you mean from the perspective of hindsight - FIJItiger MU - 6/14 16:20:07
                                                                           At the time he was the guy Mizzou should have prioritized - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/14 16:26:14
                                                                                He wasn't hired that offseason. He returned to coach at - FIJItiger MU - 6/14 16:33:49
                                                                                     So we got beat out by West Virginia - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/14 17:04:01
                                                                                          I think Mike Anderson was our preference. We landed the - FIJItiger MU - 6/14 17:50:21
                                                                                               And Mizzou landed a good coach - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/14 18:06:58
                              McCollum is an excellent coach, no doubt. But he has never - DHighlander NWMSU - 6/14 10:58:15
                                   He already recruits D1 players - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/14 11:22:00
                                        I think there's a fear of KA v.2.0. Not even close(nm) - Diamond Dave MU - 6/14 11:34:08
                         Since we are likely stuck with CM for two more years - DHighlander NWMSU - 6/14 10:41:12
     Musselman kinda (nm) - zoomer 99 - 6/13 23:05:57
          Yep, he's the guy we should have hired in 2017 but... - zounami MU - 6/14 04:40:26
               Miss turned Mizzou down in 2017 (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/14 07:19:14
                    link?.. seems like more spin from the AD's paid TB'er (nm) - zounami MU - 6/14 09:16:06
                    Martin was the only target - alwaysright MU - 6/14 07:39:27
                         correct (nm) - zounami MU - 6/14 09:20:57
                              link? (nm) - zoomer 99 - 6/14 09:33:18
                                   RE: link? (nm) - zounami MU - 6/14 09:50:01
                                        lol (nm) - zoomer 99 - 6/14 09:57:48
                         Yup. I was glad Sterk could land his #1 but a bit - SuperTone MU - 6/14 08:41:32
                         That’s not what I heard. - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/14 08:19:52
                              link? (nm) - zounami MU - 6/14 09:16:22
                              targeting and gauging interest are not the same thing.(nm) - SuperTone MU - 6/14 08:42:05
                                   Muss might have been a target had he been interested - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/14 08:44:42
                                        Do not believe that for a second. Every ounce of attention - alwaysright MU - 6/14 18:41:03
                                        link? (nm) - zounami MU - 6/14 09:16:35
                                        What issues? Other than we were the worst DI program... - Lerxst MU - 6/14 08:52:22
                                             but that means low expectations, and high job security... - zounami MU - 6/14 09:18:25
                                                  plus, the Porters were there to help jump start the program - zounami MU - 6/14 09:20:44
                                                       link? (nm) - zoomer 99 - 6/14 09:34:11
                                                            RE: link? (nm) - zounami MU - 6/14 09:49:45
                                                                 you're a child (nm) - zoomer 99 - 6/14 09:58:01
                                             That’s the main one. But APR was there as well. - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/14 08:55:32
                                                  Revisionist history. The coaching world knew the Porters - zounami MU - 6/14 09:19:55
                                                       The Porters had signed with Washington - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/14 09:22:27
                                                            The Porters basically announced that they would sign with - DHighlander NWMSU - 6/14 09:37:51
                                                                 3 years was too long for KA. It was obvious that it wasn’t - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/14 09:48:37
                                                                      And yet you argue that CM deserves at least two more years. - DHighlander NWMSU - 6/14 10:04:29
                                                                           You can thank Sterk for giving CM an iron-clad contract... - zounami MU - 6/14 11:09:58
                                                                                The only way firing CM makes sense is if Sterk goes at - DHighlander NWMSU - 6/14 11:14:00
                                                                                     We just have to ensure that he isn't involved in the search. - zounami MU - 6/14 11:17:22
                                                                           Nothing except make the tournament - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/14 10:10:26
                                                                                Those 2 tourneys were 2017 (with Geist, Barnett, Jontay, and - zounami MU - 6/14 11:16:32
                                                                                     Who coached those players? - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/14 11:29:44
                                                                                          it's interesting how CM does better w/ other coach's players - zounami MU - 6/14 11:38:14
                                                                                               How so? Everyone on the roster - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/14 11:44:48
                                                                                                    "Recruited Jontay". Lol. There's one of those chuckles you - sprintcar STL - 6/14 13:09:59
                                                                                                         Did Jontay sign to play with a different coach? - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/14 13:12:41
                                                                                                              I don't know or care what they do. Are you really going to - sprintcar STL - 6/14 14:18:56
                                                                                                                   That’s recruiting in a nutshell. - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/14 15:38:53
                                                                                                                        Cuonzo wasn't even at Mizzou when the Porters got interested - sprintcar STL - 6/15 07:34:44
                                                                                                                             I never said Martin was the reason - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/15 16:28:00
                                                                                                                        There's a lot more to recruiting than paying the right - FIJItiger MU - 6/14 16:03:50
                                                                                                                             It’s a huge part of it. - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/14 16:05:47
                                                                                                                                  Not many Zion's being recruited. That isn't how - FIJItiger MU - 6/14 16:18:42
                                                                                                                                       You want elite recruits - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/14 16:28:14
                                                                                                                                            No, not really. I'd prefer we not recruit like that (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 6/14 16:35:06
                                                                                                                                                 We don’t recruit like that - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/14 17:06:23
                                                                                Will have missed the tourney 3 of the last 4 years... - zounami MU - 6/14 11:11:23
                                                                                Quit pretending that is an accomplishment. Half of the P5 - DHighlander NWMSU - 6/14 10:19:44
                                                                                     Yea I am happy with the job he has done so far. - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/14 10:25:24
                                                                                          You are happy with an average finish of 8 in the conference - DHighlander NWMSU - 6/14 10:34:43
                                                                                               Like I said. I am happy with what he has done up - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/14 10:38:27
                                                                                                    When you have the number four recruiting class in the nation - DHighlander NWMSU - 6/14 10:45:20
                                                                                          Happy with that 12th place finish? - Newcatbirdseat MU - 6/14 10:30:22
                                                                                               Yea as soon as Jontay got hurt - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/14 10:41:00
                                                                                                    If you were happy with that season, as you stated previously - Newcatbirdseat MU - 6/14 10:42:16
                                                                                                         If you mean a MU fan that - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/14 10:51:05
                                                                                                         He is a CM appoligist. Nothing more, nothing less.(nm) - DHighlander NWMSU - 6/14 10:46:39
                                                                                                              I criticize him plenty - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/14 10:52:00
                                                                                                                   No you don't. You criticize enough to make a point and you - DHighlander NWMSU - 6/14 11:06:43
                                                                                                                        Ok I disagree with you. - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/14 11:26:16
                                                                 correct... and when Kim was canned, so was Romar at UW (nm) - zounami MU - 6/14 09:42:00
                                                            LOL... The rumors were swirling, everyone knew the Porters - zounami MU - 6/14 09:25:10
                                                                 link? (nm) - zoomer 99 - 6/14 09:33:39
                                                                      RE: link? (nm) - zounami MU - 6/14 09:49:39
                                                                 Sure there were rumors that they wanted to return - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/14 09:32:48
                                                                      It is impossible to take you serious. NC and Duke both - DHighlander NWMSU - 6/14 09:56:42
                                                                           He's truly a spinmeister. (nm) - zounami MU - 6/14 11:06:35
                                                                           No Cuonzo wasn’t the only one willing to take the job - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/14 10:08:08
                                                                                Bullshït. CM is, was, and has been nothing but a mediocre - DHighlander NWMSU - 6/14 10:32:34
                                                                                     Ok I have been told that when Mizzou reached out - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/14 10:39:53
                                                                                          There were still twenty coaches available that had not - DHighlander NWMSU - 6/14 11:16:23
                                                                                          By who?... You're making sh*t up. (nm) - zounami MU - 6/14 11:07:10
                                                                      low expectations + Porters jump-starting the program... - zounami MU - 6/14 09:47:50
                                                                           Except Muss said no when Mizzou reached out to - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/14 09:49:44
                                                                                Do you have a link to corroborate that? (nm) - zounami MU - 6/14 09:50:46
                                                                                     No because hear means that I was told - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/14 09:57:50
                                                                                          That contradicts what others in the AD said, that Cuonzo - zounami MU - 6/14 11:06:14
                                                                                               Mike Anderson won almost 60% of his SEC games - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/14 11:32:40
                                                                                                    And they fired him. Expectations are higher there. (nm) - zounami MU - 6/14 11:37:01
                                                                                                         Yes they have higher expectations - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/14 11:46:45
                                                                                                              my guess is CM finishes with fewer NCAAT bids & wins than MA - zounami MU - 6/14 16:14:35
     Oats went from high school math teacher to - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/13 21:42:54




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