Basketball Board

Mike Kelly said he watched practice this week - MakeShift MU - 10/12/16 08:50:24

     Sounds right. Togetherness and attitude will only help - tgr MU - 10/12/16 10:21:56

     lol, that's one way to put it. (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 10/12/16 09:16:01

     What were you expecting? - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/12/16 09:09:16

          By year 3? I was expecting a team that wouldn't - FIJItiger MU - 10/12/16 09:23:56

               I expected it when I saw the players Haith recruited, - nerdmachine KC - 10/12/16 11:11:29

                    Right, but I'm not sure you follow MU basketball (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 10/12/16 11:13:56

                         I do, much more than you, I actually know how to use a TV - nerdmachine KC - 10/12/16 15:13:04

               We're doing it to our football program now, too. This whole - JoplinTiger07 MU - 10/12/16 09:26:34

          I've heard Kelly blow sunshine when it wasn't warrannted - MakeShift MU - 10/12/16 09:20:37

               Oh yeah - that was the big pitch. Gritty, tough teams that - 90Tiger MU - 10/12/16 11:16:41

                    Yeah they forget Stewart happened to have Doug Smith, Peeler - MakeShift MU - 10/12/16 11:56:05

          More important is how the team fares in the SEC. That is - JoplinTiger07 MU - 10/12/16 09:12:18

               I'm sure that's why Kelly brought it up - MakeShift MU - 10/12/16 09:33:31

               Yea I have been saying that for a while now - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/12/16 09:16:08

                    If he can go .500 in SEC play or better, I think he'll - JoplinTiger07 MU - 10/12/16 09:18:39

                         I doubt .500 is the mark - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/12/16 09:21:26

                              6 conference wins? - FIJItiger MU - 10/12/16 09:26:58

                                   The departures of Brown, Clarkson, and Ross killed us - nerdmachine KC - 10/12/16 11:14:31

                                        No, following that up we made a huge blunder in hiring(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 10/12/16 11:24:57

                                   You don't lower the expectations so your coach can meet them - KC_MizzouFan MU - 10/12/16 10:03:05

                                        I don't want MU to become KSU of the 1990's - FIJItiger MU - 10/12/16 10:08:38

                                        You're talking about two different things. An AD has to - JoplinTiger07 MU - 10/12/16 10:06:46

                                             Part of the problem with the SEC is several schools fired - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/12/16 10:14:29

                                   especially in the SEC which is a very weak BB league...... - JoplinTiger07 MU - 10/12/16 09:29:20

                              Maybe 8, but less than that, in year 3, is unacceptable if - JoplinTiger07 MU - 10/12/16 09:22:35

                                   get 6-8 wins, add some players, develop the current - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/12/16 09:33:15

                                        Your "6-8" range should "8-10" because a record of - JoplinTiger07 MU - 10/12/16 09:40:29

                                        That is alot of ifs. Or we could just - FIJItiger MU - 10/12/16 09:36:38

                                             Haith left for a reason Fiji, He was about to lose a lot - nerdmachine KC - 10/12/16 11:16:06

                                                  The reason was he wasn't given an extension (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 10/12/16 11:25:23

                                             Everything discussed this offseason has been ifs - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/12/16 09:43:36

                                                  Oh I know, and I also know none of these things are - FIJItiger MU - 10/12/16 09:46:21

     Upper tier? - Diamond Dave MU - 10/12/16 09:08:03

          yes.(nm) - SuperTone MU - 10/12/16 09:18:11

          That's a euphemism for "tiers above ours" which at this - JoplinTiger07 MU - 10/12/16 09:11:28

     "building slowly" is an understatement, considering .... - JoplinTiger07 MU - 10/12/16 09:02:48

     There are some low level teams on this schedule that - FIJItiger MU - 10/12/16 08:57:29

          We have what is basically a Division II non-con schedule.... - JoplinTiger07 MU - 10/12/16 09:05:19

               A lot of schools do that, but our non-con is solid - nerdmachine KC - 10/12/16 11:17:06

               It's a Mike Anderson level non-con.(nm) - StaleyTiger MU - 10/12/16 09:07:45

                    RE: It's a Mike Anderson level non-con.(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 10/12/16 09:15:21

                         You are ignoring the pre-season tournament this year - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/12/16 09:47:16

                              I didn't list the games for this year(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 10/12/16 09:48:26

                                   I know that, but every time you talk about - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/12/16 10:08:39

                                        We don't know 2 of those opponents yet (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 10/12/16 10:11:35

                                             the second game is against a top 60 team according - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/12/16 10:17:29

               Its unfortunately also tailored to - FIJItiger MU - 10/12/16 09:07:04

                    Arizona is the home non-con game - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/12/16 09:10:31

                         And that will be like a scrimmage, similar to when - FIJItiger MU - 10/12/16 09:21:34

                              Sad but true. NM - JoplinTiger07 MU - 10/12/16 09:23:19

                    It serves no good purpose as far as fans or the program is - JoplinTiger07 MU - 10/12/16 09:09:34

     give him 30 years(nm) - tigerdb MU - 10/12/16 08:54:56

          He's already 90 years old though. NM - JoplinTiger07 MU - 10/12/16 08:58:24

               At the end of this season he will be 2 years younger - FIJItiger MU - 10/12/16 09:00:40

Haiths 30 win season - StlWeir MU - 10/11/16 21:02:22

     Norm's undefeated Big 12 team had 8 seniors - alstl MU - 10/12/16 08:54:45

          maybe most of the players run off - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/12/16 09:13:52

               Again, not bashing Kim but if you can only coach one type - alstl MU - 10/12/16 11:34:21

               Most ran off, not got run off (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 10/12/16 09:30:36

               "maybe" kids respond differently to different coaches, reput - 90Tiger MU - 10/12/16 09:19:22

                    Right not saying the players that left aren't any good - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/12/16 09:25:05

                         the staff was a bad fit for the kids (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 10/12/16 09:46:30

     but Ernie Nestor was an infinity star coach (nm) - lqf2b8 MU - 10/12/16 08:34:25

          Ernie actually cratered 2 programs - Geo Mason and Elon - Mormad MU - 10/12/16 09:07:29

               He had a unique and specific role at MU - FIJItiger MU - 10/12/16 09:09:16

                    Yes, he was pretty much able to coach others recruits - Mormad MU - 10/12/16 10:15:14

                         Right, he was part of a coaching team at MU that was - FIJItiger MU - 10/12/16 10:20:58

     Building with 3 stars and the occasional 4 star player is - StaleyTiger MU - 10/12/16 07:59:04

          RE: Building with 3 stars and the occasional 4 star player is - StlWeir MU - 10/12/16 08:48:26

          Disagree that building with 3 and occasional 4 star - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/12/16 08:03:53

               When is the last time under any coach that we consistently - StaleyTiger MU - 10/12/16 08:11:05

                    It's not like we've had 50 coaches. In the era of - alwaysright MU - 10/12/16 12:08:29

                    Mike Anderson selected with a different criteria than - FIJItiger MU - 10/12/16 08:53:50

                         Anderson has recruited lots of top 100 players - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/12/16 09:12:35

                              Not to much success. His blueprint at UAB and early - FIJItiger MU - 10/12/16 09:29:51

                                   His problem at Arkansas is players leaving - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/12/16 12:38:02

                                        That was partly his problem last year and with Portis, but - alwaysright MU - 10/12/16 18:05:23

                    It hasn't been done recently - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/12/16 08:41:53

                         How much of that was based on skill and how much of that - StaleyTiger MU - 10/12/16 08:45:31

                              Who knows, and neither were close to a guy like Tatum - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/12/16 08:51:25

     RERatliff and Pressey were 4*, - 77TIGER MU - 10/12/16 00:26:50

     We also had the best coaching in the nation that season - FIJItiger MU - 10/11/16 22:34:34

          Nestor was poetry in motion (nm) - lqf2b8 MU - 10/12/16 08:35:57

          GAG - chokingmychickenhawk MU - 10/12/16 07:01:40

               Might be what people unfamiliar with that team remembers(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 10/12/16 08:49:52

          A great coach doesn't lose to Norfolk St - MoGold MU - 10/12/16 00:07:00

               Duke lost to a 15 seed later that day also - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/12/16 07:01:03

                    Beat me to it (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 10/12/16 08:19:51

               RE: English was hurt and scored 2 points, and Denmon - 77TIGER MU - 10/12/16 00:30:15

          Why didn't he coach that well the next 2 seasons...? - kctgrs MU - 10/11/16 23:41:53

               I'm sorry you missed that season, it was fun to watch(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 10/12/16 09:01:39

                    I'm sorry you can't comprehend my question well enough... - kctgrs MU - 10/12/16 09:27:29

               RE: Why didn't he coach that well Because Mike Anderson had - 77TIGER MU - 10/12/16 00:31:43

                    Porter was a Mizzou lock until Anderson left - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/12/16 06:59:26

                         Good post, this is spot on (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 10/12/16 08:55:42

                         RE: Porter was a Mizzou lock until Anderson left - StlWeir MU - 10/12/16 08:46:39

          sure we did, it was fun watching him collect players - Jeff85 MU - 10/11/16 22:52:12

               RE: sure we did, it was fun watching him collect players - FIJItiger MU - 10/11/16 22:56:45

                    What does the world remember? The worst NCAA loss in MU - MoGold MU - 10/12/16 00:11:05

                         Come on man. - FIJItiger MU - 10/12/16 08:48:43

                              RE: Come on man. You said almost exactly what I said - 77TIGER MU - 10/13/16 01:42:24

                              RE: Come on man. - Phoggy08 KU - 10/12/16 14:03:02

                              RE: Come on man. - BIG RAY USA - 10/12/16 12:14:43

                              RE: Come on man. - BuckTurgidson KU - 10/12/16 09:56:33

                                   Sorry for leaving you out, yes you also made - FIJItiger MU - 10/12/16 10:01:01

                                        RE: Sorry for leaving you out, yes you also made - BuckTurgidson KU - 10/12/16 10:05:48

                                             Not sure, didn't really read it for content (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 10/12/16 10:12:16

                                                  RE: Not sure, didn't really read it for content (nm) - BuckTurgidson KU - 10/12/16 12:33:09

                         Worse loss in NCAA history. Not just MU by many arguements - tman KC - 10/12/16 07:37:30

                              Until last season - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/12/16 08:45:13

                    And he gagged in the NCAA tournament - tman KC - 10/11/16 23:44:04

                    lol - BIG RAY USA - 10/11/16 23:18:32

          LOL - 615Tiger STL - 10/11/16 22:37:01

               Agreed - FIJItiger MU - 10/11/16 22:43:25

                    Dixon was a bigger loss - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/12/16 07:03:26

     English was a lot like Walton or CJ Roberts - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/11/16 21:21:20

Victor Bailey commits - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/11/16 20:53:01

     Too bad, I like to see alum kids go to MU, fought - MU-TULSA MU - 10/11/16 21:13:06

          More don't than do. May be unprecedented in college.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 10/12/16 09:44:13

Hoops Season Ticket Commercial...weird - CSneeze MU - 10/11/16 14:34:35

     that is terrible..... - truthbomb USMC - 10/12/16 10:27:51

     Agree - very lackluster effort - Harvest MU - 10/11/16 22:36:16

     yeah that's terrible.nm - tiger4real MU - 10/11/16 21:47:34

     our football team media stuff is top notch & that would - BurgTiger MU - 10/11/16 21:06:57

     KA can yell?(nm) - MIZZOU_FANATIC MU - 10/11/16 19:21:21

     Umm, that looks very low budget. (nm) - Lerxst MU - 10/11/16 19:16:42

          They ought to bring back the "Stuff" campaign - MakeShift MU - 10/11/16 21:11:56

     my god - restore the roar MU - 10/11/16 18:01:25

          The social media presence is so much better. - zodiac6 JC - 10/11/16 18:49:17

     Attendance will be an interesting thing to monitor this year - FIJItiger MU - 10/11/16 15:58:33

     I don't know what different anyone could do. It's pretty - StaleyTiger MU - 10/11/16 14:41:16

          Show a dumpster fire - Rabbit Test MU - 10/11/16 14:49:39

               That's okay, it won't be long before you can spend your time - Uncle John MU - 10/11/16 15:02:00

     Seems like the normal level of effort from our media - Rabbit Test MU - 10/11/16 14:38:22

          the football ticket commercial wasn't very good - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/11/16 14:59:30

               That is all fine and good, they should be doing that. - Rabbit Test MU - 10/11/16 15:47:44

                    The focus of media has really changed - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/11/16 18:19:51

               That stuff is normally great, the graphics and videos. - CSneeze MU - 10/11/16 15:08:02

Interesting quotes from Fulford from last yr on recruiting - FIJItiger MU - 10/11/16 12:15:51

     I think he is talking about people like you - Mr. Orange SU - 10/11/16 17:38:51

     Lack of fan interest in the SEC is hurting recruiting - alstl MU - 10/11/16 14:33:33

          The SEC may be responsible for a couple of hundred fans lost - StaleyTiger MU - 10/11/16 14:42:17

               LOL - Mississippi drew 4,000 and they are a "rival" - alstl MU - 10/11/16 16:06:53

                    There's no reason you can't build a decent program in the - MakeShift MU - 10/12/16 07:51:48

                    When we played Ole Miss in 2013 when we were still a good - StaleyTiger MU - 10/11/16 16:21:18

                    Our home opener last year drew 5,037 - FIJItiger MU - 10/11/16 16:14:32

                         A person might say the hype has worn off and reality - alstl MU - 10/11/16 16:19:50

                              Not sure 'hype' is the right term for Kim's intro - FIJItiger MU - 10/11/16 16:23:34

                              Or a person would see that we are the worst team in the - StaleyTiger MU - 10/11/16 16:23:29

                                   Right, because recruiting isn't good - Haith had to cheat - alstl MU - 10/11/16 16:27:32

                                        Bingo -and that's precisely why the last two coaches beat a - MakeShift MU - 10/11/16 21:21:41

                                        MU didn't cheat in recruiting under Haith - FIJItiger MU - 10/11/16 16:30:04

                                             RE: MU didn't cheat in recruiting under Haith - BIG RAY USA - 10/11/16 23:27:09

                                             Missouri is on NCAA sanctions - it wasn't bad luck(nm) - alstl MU - 10/11/16 21:49:14

                                                  You really should educate yourself if you're going to try - tigersfan MU - 10/12/16 05:44:17

                                                  Nor were the sanctions for anything recruiting related (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 10/11/16 22:35:35

                                                       Wrong (nm) - haeffb MU - 10/12/16 07:34:49

                                             Jakeenan Gant says "Heeeeelllo!" - Mr. Orange SU - 10/11/16 19:40:34

     RE: Interesting quotes from Fulford from last yr on recruiting - Nookam UK - 10/11/16 12:38:11

          If MU pays less than $2.5 mil for a new coach next year - FIJItiger MU - 10/11/16 15:35:27

               They need to quit going after the flash coaches, the ones - MU-TULSA MU - 10/11/16 18:29:41

               KAs contract would pay over $2.5 million - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/11/16 18:22:29

                    RE: KAs contract would pay over $2.5 million - Nookam UK - 10/11/16 19:33:08

                         Kentucky has a way higher financial commitment to hoops - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/11/16 19:45:55

          Bruce Pearl would've never succeeded here, - nerdmachine KC - 10/11/16 13:56:48

               His cheating at Tennessee was having a BBQ - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/11/16 13:59:35

                    He also lied about it to the NCAA, - nerdmachine KC - 10/11/16 14:07:55

                         Anyone who thinks you win at the P5 level without being - StaleyTiger MU - 10/11/16 14:21:26

                              I'm not disputing that, I think there are a few coaches, - nerdmachine KC - 10/11/16 14:26:50

                                   Norm won here and his record with compliance was poor.(nm) - StaleyTiger MU - 10/11/16 14:30:41

                                        A big part of that was the Post -Dispatch but your point - MakeShift MU - 10/12/16 07:57:17

                         lied about it to the NCAA.... - Rabbit Test MU - 10/11/16 14:10:03

          We were a top 10 team at various points over last 15 yrs - FIJItiger MU - 10/11/16 13:52:02

          I think best case scenario is that when we are up and - StaleyTiger MU - 10/11/16 13:07:57

               There could be a good foundation of players that - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/11/16 13:54:55

                    LOL. Kim has shown no ability to recruit top-tier talent, - StaleyTiger MU - 10/11/16 13:57:50

                         Need a known coach that these AAU coaches and players - Nookam UK - 10/11/16 19:30:16

                              Marshall and Mack were both available - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/11/16 19:48:52

                         So you don't think adding elite talent to - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/11/16 14:01:44

                              No, I think Kim adding elite talent and then coaching up - StaleyTiger MU - 10/11/16 14:13:20

                                   I didn't mention anything about KA - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/11/16 14:41:51

                                   Well, that is a pretty good example honestly, - nerdmachine KC - 10/11/16 14:30:05

                         The thought that we could win 19 games - Rabbit Test MU - 10/11/16 14:01:31

                              Actually it's very much possible, - nerdmachine KC - 10/11/16 14:30:48

          To answer your question, no I don't think any of us do (nm) - TheLegend MU - 10/11/16 12:48:30

     Why post a 15 month old article? What is the point?(nm) - StaleyTiger MU - 10/11/16 12:31:39

          Revisit it, assess how it applies to current state and - FIJItiger MU - 10/11/16 13:48:06

          Because it might STILL be relevant? And YOUR point?(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 10/11/16 13:02:26

               It's not relevant. It's 15 months old and things have - StaleyTiger MU - 10/11/16 13:18:09

          Because he's a dork(nm) - Uncle John MU - 10/11/16 12:41:16

     Did expand upon "here's how we fixed" or is that - 90Tiger MU - 10/11/16 12:30:48

          How goes your "goal to build momentum and support for the - STLTIGER MU - 10/11/16 14:08:15

               so, you don't know the answer I'm inferring? (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 10/11/16 15:37:09

                     inferring? - STLTIGER MU - 10/11/16 20:16:08

          Whatever it was didn't work, that quote was given - FIJItiger MU - 10/11/16 13:47:26

               Historically easy? WTF are you smoking? - nerdmachine KC - 10/11/16 14:02:37

                    We played a combined total of 6 games against teams - FIJItiger MU - 10/11/16 15:28:28

               Historically easiest schedule - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/11/16 13:57:06

                    SOS isn't a very good metric, doesn't accurately measure - FIJItiger MU - 10/11/16 15:29:05

                         What does it measure incorrectly? - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/11/16 18:24:58

                              The difficulty of your schedule (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 10/11/16 22:37:30

                                   How so - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/12/16 06:46:31

Shane Rector may have a very good senior season - FIJItiger MU - 10/11/16 10:08:01

     It was good he transferred down.. Like teki.. Like J3.. Like - Mr. Orange SU - 10/11/16 17:40:41

     don't care. He isn't here and I don't think he - SabertoothTiger MU - 10/11/16 12:47:28

     17.5 and 4.5 assists - Rabbit Test MU - 10/11/16 12:20:37

          He wouldn't play much on this team - Mr. Orange SU - 10/11/16 17:41:19

          I think there's a good chance of there being 4 - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/11/16 14:03:56

          That was in two games on one of the worst MWC teams - nerdmachine KC - 10/11/16 13:47:48

     couldn't help in any way - Jeff85 MU - 10/11/16 11:54:15

     Tried telling you guys when he was a freshman he was better - Uncle John MU - 10/11/16 10:14:32

          Thats absurd. 90tigga is right for once! - Mr. Orange SU - 10/11/16 17:42:25

          You were wrong then, you're still wrong - and I'm not a - 90Tiger MU - 10/11/16 10:22:37

               At least you got part of it right.(nm) - Uncle John MU - 10/11/16 11:48:55

               At least Rector has taken care of business(nm) - Uncle John MU - 10/11/16 10:50:52

                    His APR hit for going JUCO is a main factor in - FIJItiger MU - 10/11/16 10:53:58

                         That's a flaw with the NCAA. That shouldn't be a hit.(nm) - Uncle John MU - 10/11/16 10:56:48

                              well, at least he took care of business (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 10/11/16 12:26:38

                              Its a dumb metric, doesn't measure its intended purpose(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 10/11/16 11:02:01

               RE: You were wrong then, you're still wrong - and I'm not a - TrueSonKC MU - 10/11/16 10:40:10

          Clark had better stats this year in a P5 conference than - StaleyTiger MU - 10/11/16 10:20:18

               Wrong(nm) - Uncle John MU - 10/11/16 11:48:18

Norm on player protests - FIJItiger MU - 10/11/16 09:20:54

     Huge difference from doing a sitin at the Chancellors Office - MU-TULSA MU - 10/11/16 21:17:44

     "doing things in a fan" I like it. Norm is saying the same - alstl MU - 10/11/16 10:40:38

     Sounds like Norm still has his $hit together.(nm) - Uncle John MU - 10/11/16 09:37:27

          Well except for this: - FIJItiger MU - 10/11/16 09:47:25

               no. this post really says more about you and that you - SabertoothTiger MU - 10/11/16 10:30:10

                    ku quit the rivalry. MU circled back and offered to - FIJItiger MU - 10/11/16 10:42:32

               If that's what he thinks then I'm okay with it. He knows we - Uncle John MU - 10/11/16 10:16:39

                    I'm OK with it too. And really a lot of people have been - SabertoothTiger MU - 10/11/16 10:32:03

                         RE: I'm OK with it too. And really a lot of people have been - FIJItiger MU - 10/11/16 10:39:39

                         **** the beakers; Alden already groveled...they know that - tigerdb MU - 10/11/16 10:39:25

     sounds like how anderson handled it during CS1950.(nm) - SuperTone MU - 10/11/16 09:21:53

          No doubt(nm) - Uncle John MU - 10/11/16 09:38:09

Fulford and Anderson were in Miami yesterday - Tigerfem MU - 10/11/16 09:08:51

     Haase has visits set up - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/11/16 09:13:25

          RE: Haase has visits set up - Tigerfem MU - 10/11/16 09:24:59

               Oct 22 I believe - Bump834 MU - 10/11/16 10:53:12

                    RE: Oct 22 I believe - Tigerfem MU - 10/11/16 14:19:26

                         That could be - Bump834 MU - 10/12/16 07:37:11

Athlon releases top 144 preseason list - FIJItiger MU - 10/11/16 08:54:03

     RE: Athlon releases top 144 preseason list - Scav CU - 10/11/16 22:57:21

     RE: Athlon releases top 144 preseason list - Nookam UK - 10/11/16 12:42:51

          We are on our 6th AD since 2015 (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 10/11/16 13:46:18

     Thanks for posting - TheLegend MU - 10/11/16 10:29:19

     Athlon has a personal vendetta against KA (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 10/11/16 10:25:14

          Not Towson, lol(nm) - Uncle John MU - 10/11/16 11:58:26

          and k-state(nm) - tmcats KSU - 10/11/16 11:11:23

               RE: and k-state(nm) - Nookam UK - 10/11/16 12:46:52

                    k-state will not finish 9th in big 12(nm) - tmcats KSU - 10/11/16 12:53:27

     So according to them we aren't as good as - GA Tiger MU - 10/11/16 10:05:29

          Stoney Brook went 26-7 last year. Hofstra 24-10. Wagner - FIJItiger MU - 10/11/16 10:10:54

               who did they beat? - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/11/16 10:21:01

                    I don't know, didn't watch any of those teams play(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 10/11/16 10:28:09

     so we aren't supposed to be good this year?(nm) - ajpe53 MU - 10/11/16 09:00:09

          RE: so we aren't supposed to be good this year?(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 10/11/16 09:04:08

     KenPom has Mizzou starting at 160 - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/11/16 08:59:50

          His numbers don't work until about the midpoint of the - FIJItiger MU - 10/11/16 09:03:03

               Not really....there are lots of programs - Mormad MU - 10/11/16 09:29:05

                    You are citing other examples of historical ineptitude - FIJItiger MU - 10/11/16 09:34:30

                         I don't deny that it's a horrible stretch for Mizzou - Mormad MU - 10/11/16 09:37:20

                              That is because I only care about MU, I don't follow - FIJItiger MU - 10/11/16 09:45:19

                                   Good - chokingmychickenhawk MU - 10/11/16 09:53:01

                                        KA over MU, right? - 90Tiger MU - 10/11/16 10:26:27

                                             Nope - chokingmychickenhawk MU - 10/11/16 10:41:09

                                        No thanks, I'm a big MU bb fan. (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 10/11/16 09:54:18

               Pretty much every projection uses - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/11/16 09:15:46

                    No. Lots of projections are just actual people - FIJItiger MU - 10/11/16 09:20:17

                         And none of it really matters(nm) - Uncle John MU - 10/11/16 12:22:24

                         Right they are guessing based on those factors - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/11/16 09:26:03

                              No, like Rothstein for example goes and visits - FIJItiger MU - 10/11/16 09:31:02

                                   That guy doesn't know anything.(nm) - Uncle John MU - 10/11/16 12:26:16

                                   Yea and they use the information I listed - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/11/16 09:34:50

          respekt!(nm) - SuperTone MU - 10/11/16 09:00:45

     We could be in the top 30 still, right?(nm) - StaleyTiger MU - 10/11/16 08:55:34

          SEC only has 14 teams, we can't finish 30th in SEC(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 10/11/16 09:05:42

               I meant overall. He hasn't released his top 30 overall, so - StaleyTiger MU - 10/11/16 09:26:08

                    No, as cited in the original post - FIJItiger MU - 10/11/16 09:35:28

                         RE: No, as cited in the original post - StlWeir MU - 10/11/16 13:08:29

                              This year we are continuing our rebuild towards being - FIJItiger MU - 10/11/16 13:45:46

JWIII all set - Rabbit Test MU - 10/10/16 13:31:12

     probably play two bigs at a time - Jeff85 MU - 10/10/16 14:25:58

          I think he can be better than a role players - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/10/16 15:59:37

               he will be in a 3 man rotation for two spots and the other - Jeff85 MU - 10/10/16 23:21:39

               15 and 8 is not much more than what he was - Rabbit Test MU - 10/10/16 16:03:57

                    He wasn't very efficient at Mizzou - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/10/16 16:09:19

                         Few would take 18 and 10 - Rabbit Test MU - 10/10/16 23:08:39

          Jank and Him would have been pretty cool.(nm) - Rabbit Test MU - 10/10/16 14:36:39

          I bet him and Teki are both double digit scorers on tourney - tgr MU - 10/10/16 14:28:44

               You are a genius - Mr. Orange SU - 10/10/16 15:56:14

               They weren't ran off.(nm) - Uncle John MU - 10/10/16 14:44:05

                    OK. I didn't say they were. I said that had Kim been able - tgr MU - 10/10/16 14:51:22

                         He has been unable to retain Haif's bucket of transfers - Mr. Orange SU - 10/10/16 15:57:38

                              Or - FIJItiger MU - 10/10/16 16:08:44

                                   None but Payne were KA recruits - Mr. Orange SU - 10/10/16 16:15:52

                                        So like not Teki for example? - FIJItiger MU - 10/10/16 16:58:44

                                             agree. In your excerpt it outlines how Teki was a fuller - Mr. Orange SU - 10/10/16 17:02:44

                                                  RE: agree. In your excerpt it outlines how Teki was a fuller - StlWeir MU - 10/11/16 08:12:00

                                                       Teki never signed. He committed after the signing period - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/11/16 08:28:18

                                                  RE: agree. In your excerpt it outlines how Teki was a fuller - FIJItiger MU - 10/10/16 17:05:35

                                                       More Fiji logic. What does that have to do with my post? - Mr. Orange SU - 10/10/16 17:12:50

                                   He did not sign Gant (nm) - haeffb MU - 10/10/16 16:11:50

                                        RE: He did not sign Gant (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 10/10/16 16:50:42

                                             Gant was never released from his LOI - haeffb MU - 10/10/16 16:56:27

                                                  Actually Wright didn't sign a LOI with KA - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/10/16 18:18:44

                                                  Thanks for clarifying that meaningful distinction (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 10/10/16 16:59:59

                                                       No worries - haeffb MU - 10/10/16 17:27:28

     He's going to be a nice player for them - TigerUppercut MU - 10/10/16 14:23:43

     From this time last year when he briefly took the court - FIJItiger MU - 10/10/16 13:36:44

          You posted that already - Mr. Orange SU - 10/10/16 13:39:21

          He was a locker room cancer... -KA'ers(nm) - StaleyTiger MU - 10/10/16 13:37:58

               I don't think anyone called him a cancer - TheLegend MU - 10/10/16 13:51:44

                    RE: I don't think anyone called him a cancer - FIJItiger MU - 10/10/16 13:53:57

                         So what? - Mr. Orange SU - 10/10/16 14:16:36

                         Interesting, I have a hard time buying that one - TheLegend MU - 10/10/16 13:56:48

                              The only player who I think was a true cancer was Isabell. - StaleyTiger MU - 10/10/16 13:58:17

                                   RE: The only player who I think was a true cancer was Isabell. - kcsportsnut MU - 10/11/16 08:01:28

                                   Obviously you never watched Namon Wright on the bench (nm) - nerdmachine KC - 10/10/16 15:30:53

                                        I'm assuming you didn't. And I found all these after - StaleyTiger MU - 10/10/16 15:39:20

                                             That is what cancer looks like in the physical form (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 10/10/16 15:41:04

                                                  Namon just seems to hate his teammates in all those - StaleyTiger MU - 10/10/16 15:45:57

                                                       I think Isabell and Wes Clark may have been though (nm) - TheLegend MU - 10/10/16 15:47:18

                                                            I think those two are just very competitive and don't - FIJItiger MU - 10/10/16 15:51:13

                                                                 Having met Isabell, I disagree, but don't really care (nm) - TheLegend MU - 10/10/16 15:54:56

                                                            I don't think Clark was either. He just didn't do what was - StaleyTiger MU - 10/10/16 15:48:14

                                                                 I think Clark became an issue late in his time at MU (nm) - TheLegend MU - 10/10/16 15:58:10

                                                                      He very well may have after all the losing. I can't imagine - StaleyTiger MU - 10/10/16 16:03:55

                                                                           I would not label Wright and certainly not J3 as such (nm) - TheLegend MU - 10/10/16 16:24:45

                                                                 RE: I don't think Clark was either. He just didn't do what was - FIJItiger MU - 10/10/16 15:51:54

                                   Isabell and Wes Clark potentially (nm) - TheLegend MU - 10/10/16 13:59:05

               he was a turnover machine(nm) - ajpe53 MU - 10/10/16 13:40:37

                    He was a sophomore recovering from - FIJItiger MU - 10/10/16 13:42:34

                         RE: He was a sophomore recovering from - StlWeir MU - 10/10/16 14:21:42

                              Over a 9 game stretch against good competition - FIJItiger MU - 10/10/16 14:26:50

                                   So when the SEC schedule rolled around he wilted.(nm) - Uncle John MU - 10/10/16 14:47:58

                                        No. I think (my opinion) the beatdown by UK - FIJItiger MU - 10/10/16 14:52:18

                         J3 was really flawed his sophomore season - TheLegend MU - 10/10/16 13:54:40

                         the injury excuse is pretty good(nm) - ajpe53 MU - 10/10/16 13:47:24

                              RE: the injury excuse is pretty good(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 10/10/16 13:52:46

                                   i understand he was hurt previously but i doubt that - ajpe53 MU - 10/10/16 13:56:10

                                        Took away his base and athleticism - FIJItiger MU - 10/10/16 13:58:23

                                             How come you only defend/make excuses for the non-KA - nerdmachine KC - 10/10/16 15:35:03

                                                  Because that isn't true - FIJItiger MU - 10/10/16 15:38:56

                                                       That's was true in the early season games against P5 - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/11/16 10:19:25

                                                       FIJImetrics - haeffb MU - 10/10/16 15:49:27

                                             He was backed down and abused as a freshman against the good - Uncle John MU - 10/10/16 14:39:04

                                             He may end up being capable of filling that role - TheLegend MU - 10/10/16 14:01:59

                                                  i hope he does as well. he just wasn't good here as a soph - ajpe53 MU - 10/10/16 14:07:57

                                                       I don't disagree (nm) - TheLegend MU - 10/10/16 14:09:26

                         He is a quitter - Mr. Orange SU - 10/10/16 13:43:18

                              Like Demarre Carroll? (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 10/10/16 13:45:50

                                   No. I see how simpletons struggle to recognize - Mr. Orange SU - 10/10/16 14:04:42

                                        Can you elaborate on the distinction - FIJItiger MU - 10/10/16 14:05:45

                                             Every instance is different - Mr. Orange SU - 10/10/16 14:07:47

                                                  RE: Every instance is different - FIJItiger MU - 10/10/16 14:11:50

                                                       I wonder how much Demarre or family members got for his - Uncle John MU - 10/10/16 14:41:31

                                                       Vandy fans probably hate Carroll - Mr. Orange SU - 10/10/16 14:15:36

                                                            Likely the irrational ones see him as a quitter (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 10/10/16 14:16:07

                                                                 He had good reason. J3 did not - Mr. Orange SU - 10/10/16 14:22:05

                                                                      Ya, his team didn't make the NCAA tourney either of - FIJItiger MU - 10/10/16 14:29:13

                                                                           yawn - Mr. Orange SU - 10/10/16 14:33:50

                                                                                If I remember correctly, Vandy lost in the Sweet Sixteen - FIJItiger MU - 10/10/16 14:36:39

                                                                                     The illogic of TB sadly seems to represent - Mr. Orange SU - 10/10/16 15:59:44

               Liar - Mr. Orange SU - 10/10/16 13:39:48

                    I believe Mizzou quit on him - Rabbit Test MU - 10/10/16 13:40:33

                         He committed to MU in Oct 2012 - FIJItiger MU - 10/10/16 13:45:06

                              RE: He committed to MU in Oct 2012 - BIG RAY USA - 10/10/16 23:13:55

                              To a simpleton... - Mr. Orange SU - 10/10/16 14:05:52

                         So you think he is stupid too? - Mr. Orange SU - 10/10/16 13:42:46

Shooting coaches - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/10/16 12:43:56

     LIke most things in life, there are always exceptions, but - alwaysright MU - 10/10/16 17:49:09

     This is where I draw the line - it's only basketball(nm) - alstl MU - 10/10/16 17:04:40

          I get it - haeffb MU - 10/10/16 22:28:34

          There are millions of dollars available for great shooters - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/10/16 17:10:40

               Maybe sneak up on them and scare them but what you - alstl MU - 10/10/16 18:12:36

                    How is it extreme? - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/10/16 18:15:19

     Phil was a play maker not a great shooter, still think his - MU-TULSA MU - 10/10/16 13:38:18

          His shot can be fixed - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/10/16 17:08:05

     I'm always surprised when players with great looking - tgr MU - 10/10/16 13:12:30

          theres been guys with ugly shots that have been great - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/10/16 13:33:57

               No one would teach anyone to shoot like Reggie Miller.(nm) - sprintcar STL - 10/10/16 14:28:32

          RE: I'm always surprised when players with great looking - FIJItiger MU - 10/10/16 13:14:47

     RE: Shooting coaches - FIJItiger MU - 10/10/16 13:03:17

     I oppose it. FIJItiger in favor (nm) - haeffb MU - 10/10/16 12:46:11

          Glad you both weighed in. The content is impressive(nm) - DollarSigns MU - 10/10/16 21:45:40

The Sec and BB outside UK.The next team needs - Ray-tiger MU - 10/10/16 12:43:50

Interview with new SEC coordinator of officials - FIJItiger MU - 10/10/16 12:38:26

     RE: Interview with new SEC coordinator of officials - BuckTurgidson KU - 10/10/16 14:57:10

          That conference collapsed, not sure anyone follows it (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 10/10/16 15:02:17

               RE: That conference collapsed, not sure anyone follows it (nm) - BuckTurgidson KU - 10/10/16 15:19:22

SEC recruiting - FIJItiger MU - 10/10/16 12:35:51

     Alabama had a very good last week - restore the roar MU - 10/10/16 15:50:02

     What really sucks - haeffb MU - 10/10/16 12:44:57

          Timely topic, doofus. (nm) - Lerxst MU - 10/10/16 18:55:01

          RE: What really sucks - StlWeir MU - 10/10/16 14:31:24

          Sure glad KA is onboard now landing them left and right, nm - MU-TULSA MU - 10/10/16 13:31:33

          RE: What really sucks - FIJItiger MU - 10/10/16 12:57:53

               He's not a legacy - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/10/16 12:59:21

                    Sorry, I didn't get his point either - FIJItiger MU - 10/10/16 13:00:44

                         The point was very clear. Haith failed to land - haeffb MU - 10/10/16 13:06:43

                              got it, I had assumed that it was at least tangently - FIJItiger MU - 10/10/16 13:08:13

                                   Apparently you didn't read - haeffb MU - 10/10/16 13:09:27

                                        I thought it was weird that when Quinton Chievous - FIJItiger MU - 10/10/16 13:31:22

                                             Not sure what you're talking about - haeffb MU - 10/10/16 13:57:21

                                                  2014-15 - FIJItiger MU - 10/10/16 14:00:44

                                                       Picked up Teki instead - haeffb MU - 10/10/16 14:11:57

                                        MSU also landed a top 50 recruit - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/10/16 13:27:54

          raise your bar (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 10/10/16 12:57:21

     Mizzou also has a Top 100 prospect (nm) - haeffb MU - 10/10/16 12:42:37

          We have all the top 100 prospects. - Rabbit Test MU - 10/10/16 12:45:13

               CJ Roberts is a top 100 guy on Rivals - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/10/16 12:48:13

     I see we are on the cusp of - Rabbit Test MU - 10/10/16 12:40:15

          RE: I see we are on the cusp of - FIJItiger MU - 10/10/16 12:42:45

               I wouldn't be shocked if a freshman leads the team in scorin - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/10/16 12:46:20

                    There will certainly be opportunity - FIJItiger MU - 10/10/16 12:54:58

                         haven't had a guy that can consistently hit perimeter - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/10/16 12:57:59

                              No he wasn't, that is a completely unrealistic expectation - FIJItiger MU - 10/10/16 12:59:19

                                   Both CVL and Hughes were billed coming in as shooters - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/10/16 13:02:21

                                        I could see CVL becoming a good asst and coach some day - MU-TULSA MU - 10/10/16 13:35:24

                                        They may be ready to contribute 2 years from now - FIJItiger MU - 10/10/16 13:06:17

                                             Being billed as a shooter - haeffb MU - 10/10/16 13:08:21

                                                  Right, this reminds me alot of CVL - FIJItiger MU - 10/10/16 13:12:18

                                                       We get it, you hate CVL, KA, and - nerdmachine KC - 10/10/16 13:17:22

                                                            No, I think he can be a Jon McIntyre type of player - FIJItiger MU - 10/10/16 13:20:28

                                                                 RE: No, I think he can be a Jon McIntyre type of player - Bangin3s MU - 10/10/16 14:43:05

                                                                      No offense, that is crazy - FIJItiger MU - 10/10/16 14:49:04

                                                                           RE:Jabari brown played hard?please - Bangin3s MU - 10/10/16 21:03:19

                                                                                size and defense are keeping him out of the NBA - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/10/16 21:10:16

                                                                           There are a ton of 1 way players in hoops - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/10/16 15:27:10

                                                                           No offense but you're wrong again. Bari was a really good - sprintcar STL - 10/10/16 15:14:36

                                                                                Disagree, strongly. Defense isn't measured statistically - FIJItiger MU - 10/10/16 15:27:49

                                                                                     Of course Clark is the only one better because he was - nerdmachine KC - 10/10/16 15:39:16

                                                                                          Right, but I'm not sure you know what you are looking at (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 10/10/16 15:40:01

                                                                                               Its really not that hard to discern. That's what makes your - sprintcar STL - 10/11/16 07:32:59

                                                                                     You can disagree as strongly as you want but that doesn't - sprintcar STL - 10/10/16 15:36:24

                                                                 Brown was a good perimeter shooter - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/10/16 13:30:27

                                                                      One of them. Talent, effort, coaching, maturity, - FIJItiger MU - 10/10/16 13:33:59

                                                                           See maybe 1 of those weaknesses is no longer a weakness - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/10/16 13:36:18

                                                                                Hope you are right, might lead to - FIJItiger MU - 10/10/16 13:38:09

                                                                                     Have you seen Hughes play? - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/10/16 13:44:17

                                                                                          No, and I don't know what his recruiting ranking is either - FIJItiger MU - 10/10/16 13:48:36

                                                                                               Hughes shot over 40% in Italy from 3, - nerdmachine KC - 10/10/16 15:27:43

                                                                                                    I'm not judging him, I don't even know what he looks like - FIJItiger MU - 10/10/16 15:30:20

                                                                                                         This is a judgment - haeffb MU - 10/10/16 15:52:05

                                                                                                              Based on him being a freshman (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 10/10/16 16:10:04

                                                                                                                   An English type of season wouldn't be a bad year - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/10/16 16:24:28

                                                                                                                        English shot 38% from the floor as a freshman (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 10/10/16 16:53:53

                                                                                                                             that's a repeatable season - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/10/16 17:05:48

                                                                                                                                  I would hope so, that isn't very good (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 10/10/16 17:06:56

                                                                                                                                       Not bad for a player that takes more than half - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/10/16 17:15:26

                                                                                                                   So, you're judging him - haeffb MU - 10/10/16 16:17:22

                                                                                                                        Yes (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 10/10/16 16:51:55

                                                                                               Sutherland was before my day - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/10/16 13:57:29

                                                                                                    Elite level athleticism and jumping ability. He - FIJItiger MU - 10/10/16 14:02:04

                                                                                                    State Champion in high jump - haeffb MU - 10/10/16 13:59:28

Hannah travels to China to represent the USA - FIJItiger MU - 10/10/16 11:57:59

     USA! USA! - Mr. Orange SU - 10/10/16 12:02:25

Pressey survives cuts,1 of 4 vying for final Warriors roster - FIJItiger MU - 10/10/16 11:47:52

     The Pressey Story, Always a bride's maid, never the bride, - MU-TULSA MU - 10/10/16 12:25:58

          school leader in assists and steals and first team all sec(nm) - ajpe53 MU - 10/10/16 12:43:50

          Can't shoot and - Rabbit Test MU - 10/10/16 12:38:15

     Probably come up short - Rabbit Test MU - 10/10/16 11:56:33

     We will go through fall, winter, spring and be in early - alstl MU - 10/10/16 11:52:57

     Not sure why he signed there - TigerUppercut MU - 10/10/16 11:50:22

          They don't not really have PG depth - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/10/16 12:29:59

So I've been pretty busy over the last year or two...... - tigger lover MU - 10/9/16 23:13:43

     Interest in SEC basketball has attendance at levels not seen - alstl MU - 10/10/16 11:55:48

          RE: Interest in SEC basketball has attendance at levels not seen - FIJItiger MU - 10/10/16 12:02:36

               Like all fads interest in it has faded - maybe they need - alstl MU - 10/10/16 14:43:24

                    Joining the SEC isn't a fad (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 10/10/16 14:53:14

                         When the SEC revealed Missouri's rivals in basketball - alstl MU - 10/10/16 15:07:15

     RE: So I've been pretty busy over the last year or two...... - Ragarm MU - 10/10/16 11:16:59

     Not much - FIJItiger MU - 10/10/16 08:43:28

          this is the first I've heard about this(nm) - Doc James USA - 10/10/16 12:43:24

          B.S. threads like this ^^^^^^ - Mormad MU - 10/10/16 11:43:26

          I'm surprised you're married honestly, - nerdmachine KC - 10/10/16 09:47:36

               If you wish to use that analogy, it would be as if Fiji marr - 90Tiger MU - 10/10/16 11:15:59

          I'd add that there seems to be a segment of what remains of - 90Tiger MU - 10/10/16 09:37:30

          Silly Zika....... - tigger lover MU - 10/10/16 09:37:03

               I do agree with that - FIJItiger MU - 10/10/16 10:10:42

               He has won virtually no games against legit D1 - Rabbit Test MU - 10/10/16 09:38:50

                    Lol, let's pay you 1.1 mil to see you win 0 games (nm) - nerdmachine KC - 10/10/16 09:45:40

                         Probably - Rabbit Test MU - 10/10/16 09:50:42

                              Yeah, that'll net you two wins, 1 against ark-pine bluff - nerdmachine KC - 10/10/16 09:55:50

                                   Fiji would have made Gant a star! - Mr. Orange SU - 10/10/16 09:58:12

                                        RE: Fiji would have made Gant a star! - FIJItiger MU - 10/10/16 10:16:37

                                        Gant would have been 20 lbs lighter - Rabbit Test MU - 10/10/16 10:01:34

                                             Oh even better, he was effective at 205lbs, - nerdmachine KC - 10/10/16 10:22:36

                                                  Many different styles and coaching tactics are effective - FIJItiger MU - 10/10/16 10:32:58

                                                       You don't know what good coaching is, - nerdmachine KC - 10/10/16 10:37:52

                                                            I don't subscribe to that point of view. - Rabbit Test MU - 10/10/16 10:41:56

                                                                 We just signed a consensus 4* player, - nerdmachine KC - 10/10/16 10:46:27

                                                                      It hasn't been fine so far. - Rabbit Test MU - 10/10/16 10:51:33

                                                                           I have the basis that the best players on last years team, - nerdmachine KC - 10/10/16 10:56:01

                                                                                We will be looking for a new coach by Christmas - Rabbit Test MU - 10/10/16 10:59:09

                                                                                     Ok, if you say so Coach (nm) - nerdmachine KC - 10/10/16 11:07:43

                                                                                          RE: Ok, if you say so Coach (nm) - nerdmachine KC - 10/10/16 11:07:53

                                                            I've seen him coach at MU for 2 seasons - FIJItiger MU - 10/10/16 10:41:27

                                                                 It's actually not obvious, - nerdmachine KC - 10/10/16 10:52:53

                                                                      RE: It's actually not obvious, - FIJItiger MU - 10/10/16 11:12:25

                                                                      players that should not have been at Mizzou or college - Rabbit Test MU - 10/10/16 10:56:38

                    I'm not saying he's the right guy either....... - tigger lover MU - 10/10/16 09:41:10

                         He isn't the right guy based on all the data we have - Rabbit Test MU - 10/10/16 09:48:41

                              Oh yeah, the data, you're an expert on the data - nerdmachine KC - 10/10/16 09:57:58

                                   19–44 (.302) 6–30 (.167) - Rabbit Test MU - 10/10/16 11:58:27

                                        But if Kim is able to win 59 games this season - FIJItiger MU - 10/10/16 12:01:08

                                             Kim will win 3 games and - Rabbit Test MU - 10/10/16 12:04:02

                                                  Seems impossible - FIJItiger MU - 10/10/16 12:09:46

                                                       Lipscomb - Rabbit Test MU - 10/10/16 12:11:28

                                                            Well that also assumes losses to - FIJItiger MU - 10/10/16 12:15:56

                                                                 Western Ky will win easily. - Rabbit Test MU - 10/10/16 12:24:15

                                                                      Did you see the quotes from their coach recently? - FIJItiger MU - 10/10/16 12:26:55

          See what I mean? - Mr. Orange SU - 10/10/16 09:03:00

     Fiji plays for the other team now - Mr. Orange SU - 10/10/16 08:06:02

     Nope. According to our new AD and many on here, the - StaleyTiger MU - 10/10/16 07:55:23

          I love a new start. (nm) - tigger lover MU - 10/10/16 09:33:12

               I wish I could spend the first two years of a job doing it - StaleyTiger MU - 10/10/16 09:41:04

                    No, some of our fans understand what Kim was dealt, - nerdmachine KC - 10/10/16 09:51:11

                         He wasn't dealt anything tougher than Mike Anderson - tgr MU - 10/10/16 09:58:47

                              Ok, my turn; - nerdmachine KC - 10/10/16 10:35:15

                                   Mike Anderson inherited a program on NCAA probation with - tgr MU - 10/10/16 10:50:04

                                   You have alot of excuses as to why he failed - FIJItiger MU - 10/10/16 10:38:47

                                        We have answers & solutions, - nerdmachine KC - 10/10/16 10:44:37

                                             that isn't an answer. That is a recipe for - FIJItiger MU - 10/10/16 10:48:30

                                                  Those are actually just your own little thoughts FIJI, - nerdmachine KC - 10/10/16 10:58:35

                                                       Unfortunately its the reality we now face (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 10/10/16 11:14:06

                                                            No actually it is not reality, reality is in the present - nerdmachine KC - 10/10/16 12:11:46

                              Wrong. Mike Anderson inherited good kids that played hard - Mr. Orange SU - 10/10/16 10:10:18

                                   He retained good players. Kim hasn't. If Kim had retained - tgr MU - 10/10/16 10:17:12

                                        RE: He retained good players. Kim hasn't. If Kim had retained - kcsportsnut MU - 10/10/16 11:59:03

                                        Kim had no good players to retain - Mr. Orange SU - 10/10/16 11:05:44

                                             RE: Kim had no good players to retain - kcsportsnut MU - 10/10/16 12:00:06

                                   RE: Wrong. Mike Anderson inherited good kids that played hard - FIJItiger MU - 10/10/16 10:13:46

                                        That's a much better group than what Kim inherited, - nerdmachine KC - 10/10/16 10:40:45

                                             Are you kidding? Did you even follow MU then? - FIJItiger MU - 10/10/16 10:46:23

                                                  And yet he still inherited more talent than Kim did, - nerdmachine KC - 10/10/16 11:07:12

                                                       Jesus, that is amazing (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 10/10/16 11:13:34

                                                            Yes it is. It's hard to believe that 3 straight classes - sprintcar STL - 10/10/16 11:23:08

                                                                 One of the greatest statistical anomalies of all time - FIJItiger MU - 10/10/16 11:26:14

                                                  If you knew basketball you would laugh at your post - Mr. Orange SU - 10/10/16 10:57:51

                              Not a fair comparison - FIJItiger MU - 10/10/16 10:07:09

                                   I know that is a swipe towards Kim but that really is the - tgr MU - 10/10/16 10:15:36

     RE: So I've been pretty busy over the last year or two...... - tigerdb MU - 10/10/16 06:55:28

          Must have gone to a good bowl last year. (nm) - tigger lover MU - 10/10/16 07:34:14

     Nope. Season start shortly(nm) - tman KC - 10/9/16 23:28:53

     Had to choose between Kim Anderson and Bob Burchard - ChinaTiger MU - 10/9/16 23:28:52

UK Combine on at 7 eastern 6 Missouri time ESPNU or online - Nookam UK - 10/9/16 17:48:02

     RE: UK Combine on at 7 eastern 6 Missouri time ESPNU or online - Phoggy08 KU - 10/10/16 11:30:59

     RE: UK Combine on at 7 eastern 6 Missouri time ESPNU or online - BuckTurgidson KU - 10/10/16 09:59:18

          Buck trying to blow himself - Nookam UK - 10/10/16 17:18:08

               RE: Buck trying to blow himself - Phoggy08 KU - 10/11/16 10:53:27

     Nobody cares - Mr. Orange SU - 10/9/16 19:41:39

          RE: Nobody cares - TheNEWRemoteMan STL - 10/9/16 21:35:18

               Nobody cares - Mr. Orange SU - 10/9/16 22:08:25

     Not sure any NBA scouts would show - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/9/16 18:13:15

Fulford catching up with some former players - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/9/16 16:48:14

When is your mid night madness ? - Nookam UK - 10/9/16 12:42:02

     Don't have one, not sure it is feasible at this point to - FIJItiger MU - 10/10/16 08:54:38

          Did Snyder have one? - MakeShift MU - 10/10/16 09:44:46

               Yes, he did (nm) - haeffb MU - 10/10/16 09:52:50

          I'd say Arkansas and Tennessee have stronger fan support - bornoncampus MU - 10/10/16 09:39:04

          There is a Halloween scrimmage October 28 - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/10/16 09:32:47

     I don't think Snyder, Mike Anderson or Haith ever did it - MakeShift MU - 10/10/16 07:50:05

     RE: When is your mid night madness ? - dont remember MU - 10/9/16 16:42:18

          RE: When is your mid night madness ? - Nookam UK - 10/9/16 17:41:07

     We are currently living a continuous midnight madness, nm - MU-TULSA MU - 10/9/16 13:36:42

          The sun will come out tomorrow - McMuffin MU - 10/9/16 13:53:13

               Should play that before each game, nm - MU-TULSA MU - 10/10/16 12:27:28

     Depends - Cosmo MU - 10/9/16 13:22:19

     Don't really have one - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/9/16 12:45:03

     8pm(nm) - tigerdb MU - 10/9/16 12:43:33

1990 hoops - #4 Mizzou over #1 ku full game video now online - McMuffin MU - 10/9/16 10:33:08

     RE: 1990 hoops - #4 Mizzou over #1 ku full game video now online - zenyen MU - 10/9/16 11:31:15

          ku back then was an actual college hoops team, not the UK - McMuffin MU - 10/9/16 12:07:36

Haeffb removed my post about calling people beakers - HissingPrigs77 MU - 10/9/16 09:02:44

     The most interesting part about people clinging to Kansas - alstl MU - 10/10/16 10:13:55

     Haeff is a tremendously bad moderator. (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 10/9/16 17:26:48

          Is he worse than Fiji? I can't say because I hate both - Mr. Orange SU - 10/10/16 07:32:21

     Nazi board for dbags. They only want dbags to post(nm) - TigerFan92 MU - 10/9/16 13:35:03

          That's six boards to the far right.(nm) - zodiac6 JC - 10/9/16 15:23:57

               never seen a libtard post removed on that board(nm) - TigerFan92 MU - 10/10/16 07:52:19

     1. This board is for discussion of basketball - haeffb MU - 10/9/16 12:36:10

          How about you just unvolunteer being a moderator. - DollarSigns MU - 10/9/16 17:59:43

               Then the board will moderator free... - Mr. Orange SU - 10/10/16 09:20:11

          Call this an "assumption board" not a discussion board. - UMR85 MU - 10/9/16 15:38:17

          The term beaker has always been allowed on this board - 615Tiger STL - 10/9/16 13:06:03

               I may be guilty of abusing the word too much - Mr. Orange SU - 10/9/16 13:33:45

               ^^^^^ beaker - haeffb MU - 10/9/16 13:17:47

                    Okay, but if that is true, how do you justify - 615Tiger STL - 10/9/16 20:25:26

                         Oh come on, that's simply not true. - Gary P. MU - 10/11/16 08:30:01

                         What is Coach Anderson's - haeffb MU - 10/10/16 07:31:19

                              Disagree. When people lack knowledge they need to be - Mr. Orange SU - 10/10/16 07:42:40

                                   You are free to do that - haeffb MU - 10/10/16 07:57:15

                                        That's the problem - Mr. Orange SU - 10/10/16 08:05:19

                         There isn't anything personal about KA that is attacked (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 10/9/16 21:31:40

                              That's simply untrue - haeffb MU - 10/10/16 07:34:58

                    you're not as lazy as you are childish and inconsistent (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 10/9/16 17:27:45

                         Neither are you - Mr. Orange SU - 10/9/16 19:42:58

                         No kidding. But it gives him a sense of self worth(nm) - DollarSigns MU - 10/9/16 18:01:07

     That's pretty damn offensive.(nm) - tigerdb MU - 10/9/16 10:30:15

     Was it an actual ku fan you called a beaker or someone who - StaleyTiger MU - 10/9/16 10:29:46

     The moderators control opinions like the media (nm) - Mormad MU - 10/9/16 09:55:54

     out like 90, see you in 30 minutes - Jeff85 MU - 10/9/16 09:51:36

     RE: Haeffb removed my post about calling people beakers - StlWeir MU - 10/9/16 09:27:28

     Welcome to my world - Mr. Orange SU - 10/9/16 09:13:06

          Oh, God, are we actually in it now!!!!?????(nm) - Evenflow MU - 10/9/16 09:28:44

     This board reflects the state of the basketball program. - Evenflow MU - 10/9/16 09:10:36

Video from today's practice/scrimmage - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/8/16 20:49:41

     So I will go ahead and grasp at a straw here... - KC_MizzouFan MU - 10/11/16 07:46:33

     Our media outreach is stunning. - Rabbit Test MU - 10/10/16 09:32:31

     RE: Video from today's practice/scrimmage - Frank Poncherello MU - 10/9/16 15:38:26

     Any info from the scrimmage (nm) - Uncle John MU - 10/9/16 15:37:42

     This year makes or breaks the KA Era, nm - MU-TULSA MU - 10/9/16 11:43:28

     If we get that many dunks in 28 seconds - tiger4real MU - 10/9/16 09:16:48

     RE: Video from today's practice/scrimmage - Cheesy Grits MU - 10/8/16 21:47:01

I think Walton gets beat out and Jackson and Hughes end - Jeff85 MU - 10/8/16 13:31:08

     it wouldn't surprise me if KJ is the odd man out, and moves - tigerdb MU - 10/9/16 09:10:04

     RE: I think Walton gets beat out and Jackson and Hughes end - Pikespeaktiger MU - 10/9/16 08:10:12

     Covering a lot of the debate in the thread. - alwaysright MU - 10/9/16 07:40:23

          Geist's juco film showed a guy a lot like Walton - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/9/16 08:01:31

     What capable bigs are pkaying the 5 when we play normal - Cheesy Grits MU - 10/8/16 22:08:11

          Why the double handle? - Mr. Orange SU - 10/9/16 09:32:51

          Woods might be a competent big - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/8/16 22:10:25

               who? - tigerdb MU - 10/9/16 09:15:22

                    Post and Rosburg had their best seasons under KA - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/9/16 09:36:51

                         I disagree with your premise, but even if you were right - tigerdb MU - 10/9/16 09:43:43

                              Well no head coach is really responsible for players - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/9/16 09:58:07

                                   I agree that, per their given talent, it is the guards who - alwaysright MU - 10/9/16 12:53:20

     RE: I think Walton gets beat out and Jackson and Hughes end - Pikespeaktiger MU - 10/8/16 21:14:03

          are you still terribly concerned about attendance - Jeff85 MU - 10/8/16 21:36:17

     KJ is at least our 2nd best returning offensive player - tigersfan MU - 10/8/16 19:11:39

          doesn't shoot it very well - Jeff85 MU - 10/8/16 21:37:51

     Walton and Jackson do not play the same position(nm) - MizzouAstro MU - 10/8/16 15:42:00

          Both are wings. - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/8/16 16:04:52

               Walton is an SG/SF... Jackson is a SF/PF - MizzouAstro MU - 10/8/16 21:45:22

                    neither are really outside shooters - Jeff85 MU - 10/8/16 21:49:04

                         no. Walton is a slasher. Jackson is a banger with a midrange - MizzouAstro MU - 10/8/16 22:50:33

     The opportunities will be there for Walton - MUIntensity USA - 10/8/16 14:40:04

          agree with most of that - Jeff85 MU - 10/8/16 14:42:03

     there's minutes available for all to play - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/8/16 13:44:01

          Yeah. Cause we're gonna suck - Cheesy Grits MU - 10/8/16 19:19:53

          we need as much shooting on the floor as we can get - Jeff85 MU - 10/8/16 14:27:57

               RE: we need as much shooting on the floor as we can get - Pikespeaktiger MU - 10/8/16 21:14:39

               I think Walton gets that many free throws a game - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/8/16 14:33:02

                    Jackson is a bigger and stronger version of Walton - Jeff85 MU - 10/8/16 14:39:16

                         Yea I think both can get close to 20 mpg - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/8/16 14:51:02

                              The best thing about the KA era to date has been recruiting - MUIntensity USA - 10/8/16 15:01:59

                         Walton is faster and quicker than Jackson - MUIntensity USA - 10/8/16 14:41:44

                              I think Hughes and Jackson end up being two of the - Jeff85 MU - 10/8/16 14:43:46

                                   I think what makes them ideal is that they played on great - MUIntensity USA - 10/8/16 15:09:23

                                        Just about every player on the roster was - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/8/16 15:14:48

                                   I have no evidence, but tend to agree with you - MUIntensity USA - 10/8/16 14:47:48

Geist's juco team forfeits last season - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/8/16 11:06:30

     That's so stupid (nm) - Uncle John MU - 10/8/16 12:21:58

KC Star article from Gregorian - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/8/16 11:01:34

     MU fans should never read that piecer of shlt. - alwaysright MU - 10/9/16 07:30:21

     The title says it all. You have to have faith that this - StaleyTiger MU - 10/8/16 12:02:30

          No, the final sentence says it all - haeffb MU - 10/8/16 12:41:58

               But both of those statements are really pitiful when you - MU-TULSA MU - 10/8/16 16:50:19

                    I have seen several things this offseason - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/8/16 20:46:30

                         Unless I've misread the article, Sterk said it's really like - The King MU - 10/8/16 21:21:26

                              The team still has to show improvement - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/8/16 21:25:02

                                   Off that quote alone? - The King MU - 10/8/16 21:37:46

                                        If the team plays like it did the last 2 years he needs to b - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/8/16 22:13:08

               that is the point I have been trying to make for 2 years - Jeff85 MU - 10/8/16 13:10:50

          Yeah if you take "Kim's word for it" - MakeShift MU - 10/8/16 12:17:24

          KA is similar to David Blatt in some ways - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/8/16 12:10:14

               I'd love for Kim to be like David Blatt where we fire him - StaleyTiger MU - 10/8/16 12:40:10

                    Get the best player in the world - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/8/16 13:12:17

     Just getting ready to post this - Bump834 MU - 10/8/16 11:55:52

5 thoughts from rockmnation - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/8/16 08:25:28

     looking forward to Jordan Barnett (nm) - Uncle John MU - 10/8/16 10:15:29

          He needs to be a go-to scorer. It's what we're missing. - HissingPrigs77 MU - 10/8/16 12:14:23

               Yup(nm) - Uncle John MU - 10/8/16 13:00:22

               Haven't had a go to scorer since Clarkson/Brown - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/8/16 12:37:30

                    We need someone to go to when we need a bucket to - HissingPrigs77 MU - 10/8/16 12:51:46

                         Not going to disagree with that - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/8/16 13:14:42

          The sophomores are the leaders, but the newcomers - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/8/16 10:18:25

Rules video - haeffb MU - 10/7/16 21:38:46

     The problem is officials won't enforce it equally - alstl MU - 10/8/16 14:12:07

     Nothing like giving John Higgins a shotout during - tgr MU - 10/8/16 09:38:08

Haase has started getting lots of attention - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/7/16 16:59:51

     Kim recognizes talent - Mr. Orange SU - 10/7/16 17:05:27

          Booker scored 34 tonight - Uncle John MU - 10/8/16 00:02:40

               Did they win? PPG on a terrible Nba team are meaningless - Mr. Orange SU - 10/9/16 09:15:23

               Kim recognizes talent, Orange does not.(nm) - zodiac6 JC - 10/8/16 12:36:58

               Would have been a Jr for us this year. - Nookam UK - 10/8/16 09:27:13

Kim hanging with the Nigro brothers - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 10/7/16 11:00:56

     Wait. That looks racist right off the bat. Do - GA Tiger MU - 10/7/16 15:49:34

          You're safe, Gapdaddy knows these Nigro Bros(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 10/7/16 15:52:03

               Well, so long as they been checked out and all.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 10/7/16 16:05:45

     Who are they??? - Bump834 MU - 10/7/16 14:46:32

          RE: Who are they??? - hondo MU - 10/7/16 16:09:47

          If they're hanging out with Kim I would guess they're - Newcatbirdseat MU - 10/7/16 15:24:24

               Have you ever hung out with Kim? Nope you haven't - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 10/7/16 15:32:28

                    Oh come on, that was funny, nm - MU-TULSA MU - 10/8/16 09:19:38

     RE: Kim hanging with the Nigro brothers - Rabbit Test MU - 10/7/16 12:37:43

     think they danced with Kim's date?(nm) - ajpe53 MU - 10/7/16 11:44:33

     be home by 11 - Nookam UK - 10/7/16 11:32:12

     Whole bunch of Nigro brothers in KC. - GapDaddy MU - 10/7/16 11:19:50

          Somebody get those Nigro bros some condoms!(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 10/7/16 11:21:21

               They are being fruitful and multiplying. Good folks.(nm) - GapDaddy MU - 10/7/16 11:28:04

                    rare to see a Nigro brother in my area - Nookam UK - 10/7/16 11:34:56

                    They look like some jolly good fellows(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 10/7/16 11:30:42

     It's teed up. Who's gonna take a swing at it?(nm) - Gaseous Clay MU - 10/7/16 11:05:08

          GAT bit(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 10/7/16 17:15:49

          John Daly would!(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 10/7/16 12:42:14