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All that said, Cuonzo Martin deserves some credit

Posted on: April 19, 2017 at 14:32:37 CT
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for this. Granted, I don't believe he orchestrated everything, I don't think many coaches would have been able to pull it all together the way he did.
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just so i'm up to speed on the hypocrisy... - phrejd MU - 4/19 13:17:18
     Recruiting can be nasty business at times. - ERB KC - 4/19 20:08:47
     Stop all this crap... CM talked with MPSr sister in law EOS(nm) - Quick Slant MU - 4/19 16:03:26
     No rules were broken with Porter and Cuonzo. - cefoo MU - 4/19 14:42:17
     ABSOLUTELY while at Cal CM orchestrated UW going 9-22 - Macgrantt MU - 4/19 14:33:52
          i think you may have misread that post. - phrejd MU - 4/19 14:44:10
               You do realize my comments were satrical? - Macgrantt MU - 4/19 19:09:14
               So you don't think that Cuonzo or his agent could have asked - BigSlickTiger MU - 4/19 15:02:29
                    here's exactly why it's nutty: - phrejd MU - 4/19 15:07:09
                         UW would have released him. Look at Garrison Brooks. - BigSlickTiger MU - 4/19 15:10:22
                              Porter Sr has said he didnt talk to Martin about a job at MU - phrejd MU - 4/19 15:11:58
                                   So ESPN's national director of recruiting just made this - BigSlickTiger MU - 4/19 15:19:03
                                        it appears he did - phrejd MU - 4/19 15:28:40
                                             I was discussing the part about Porter being hired. - BigSlickTiger MU - 4/19 15:32:30
               Who is saying that? Romar would still be employed if he was - zounami MU - 4/19 14:50:29
                    RE: Who is saying that? Romar would still be employed if he was - phrejd MU - 4/19 14:56:52
                    I don't think anyone is saying the Porter's are the reason - StaleyTiger MU - 4/19 14:55:31
                         Yes, and that's exactly what I said. (nm) - zounami MU - 4/19 15:00:34
                              do you people not know what a NLI is? - phrejd MU - 4/19 15:03:19
                                   There is no way UW would take the publicity hit of forcing - BigSlickTiger MU - 4/19 15:08:20
                                        Porter Sr has said he didnt talk to Martin about a job at MU - phrejd MU - 4/19 15:11:12
                                             Of course he did. Why would he come out and admit that he - BigSlickTiger MU - 4/19 15:14:20
                                                  no. there was speculation that after a 9 win season Romar - phrejd MU - 4/19 15:30:40
                                                       1 week before Pat Forde said Romar was being retained. - BigSlickTiger MU - 4/19 15:36:15
                                                            again - phrejd MU - 4/19 15:43:59
                                                                 And again, the evidence proves that Romar wasn't fired until - BigSlickTiger MU - 4/19 15:54:08
                                                                      no - phrejd MU - 4/19 16:00:23
                                                                           He didn't speculate though. He said "per sources" and guess - BigSlickTiger MU - 4/19 16:02:33
                                                                                you realize you just contradicted yourself, right? - phrejd MU - 4/19 16:35:55
     Who is this "us" you're referring to in this dramatic post? - zounami MU - 4/19 14:27:46
     This is what is going to run Coach Martin off^^^ - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 4/19 14:10:20
          he's been very complimentary of KA - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 4/19 14:26:32
     It can be somewhere in the middle. - kmawv8 MU - 4/19 14:03:06
          RE: It can be somewhere in the middle. - tjwheeler UI - 4/19 14:12:21
          That's a believable scenario as is the scenario that Porter - tgr MU - 4/19 14:11:22
               Washington already had the #1 NBA draft pick playing and - catbirdseat MU - 4/19 14:17:04
                    That guy is overrated.(nm) - Uncle John MU - 4/19 14:27:48
                         Still - catbirdseat MU - 4/19 14:45:35
               Once again, I'll just have to agree to disagree. (nm) - kmawv8 MU - 4/19 14:16:23
               UW firing a guy over the course of an afternoon over a rumor - phrejd MU - 4/19 14:13:08
                    It was the final straw for Romar. The top 5 recruiting class - zounami MU - 4/19 14:55:57
                         no it wasn't. he still had a top 5 recruiting class signed. - phrejd MU - 4/19 15:00:24
                    You do realize it didn't necessarily happen over the course - tgr MU - 4/19 14:17:51
                         show me a power 5 program that fired a coach in 24 hours - phrejd MU - 4/19 14:20:37
                              I don't know if there any accounts of how a firing went down - tgr MU - 4/19 14:26:10
                              The fact they sucked with the #1 pick in the upcoming draft - catbirdseat MU - 4/19 14:22:50
                                   same (nm) - phrejd MU - 4/19 14:23:27
                         I am saying this happened at Christmas Break - catbirdseat MU - 4/19 14:20:11
                    His leaving could've been the last straw - tjwheeler UI - 4/19 14:16:44
                         Porter Sr and family may have just been homesick.(nm) - Uncle John MU - 4/19 14:37:42
                              It's possible, sure. - tjwheeler UI - 4/19 15:07:56
                         Here is why I don't think MPJ was leaving prior to the - kmawv8 MU - 4/19 14:30:42
                              RE: Here is why I don't think MPJ was leaving prior to the - tjwheeler UI - 4/19 15:07:08
                                   MPJ did sign the LOI. He had to get released after Romar's - phrejd MU - 4/19 15:09:42
                              When Porter took the job, UW was coming off a 19 win - StaleyTiger MU - 4/19 14:33:26
          that's all i'm saying (nm) - phrejd MU - 4/19 14:08:24
               All that said, Cuonzo Martin deserves some credit - kmawv8 MU - 4/19 14:32:37
     Is that your take? Or do you have proof? If you don't have - MU-TULSA MU - 4/19 13:55:21
          Proof would be Porter Sr., HCCM and U of W all saying that - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 4/19 14:31:32
               Do you think Porter Sr. or Cuonzo would say anything - StaleyTiger MU - 4/19 14:34:28
                    So, you believe they knowingly broke the rules? Porter Sr - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 4/19 14:47:41
                         No I think agents and other intermediaries could have - StaleyTiger MU - 4/19 14:54:06
                    coaches can talk, but if UW doesn't Fire Romar MPJ has - MU-TULSA MU - 4/19 14:41:41
                         good lord people. I'M SAYING THE OPPOSITE OF THAT. - phrejd MU - 4/19 14:47:23
     No, those conversations likely happened well - FIJItiger MU - 4/19 13:48:05
          both Cuonzo and Porter Sr have said on record - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/19 14:02:48
               People seem to ignore the fact that all parties involved - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 4/19 14:33:01
          He makes it sound like it's far-fetched that new coach would - StaleyTiger MU - 4/19 14:00:25
               It's not far fetched in general, but under these specific - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 4/19 15:14:45
               Agents - catbirdseat MU - 4/19 14:02:19
          So you believe that Cuonzo wanted Porter Sr on his - kmawv8 MU - 4/19 14:00:06
               why isn't his ability to recuirt at least 2 great players - ajpe53 MU - 4/19 14:01:58
                    No, it should be taken into account. That would be part of - kmawv8 MU - 4/19 14:06:29
                         gotcha. all fair enough(nm) - ajpe53 MU - 4/19 14:07:59
     You should have your T levels checked - JayHoaxH8r MU - 4/19 13:47:23
     Who is "us"?(nm) - zodiac6 JC - 4/19 13:45:55
          drama queens (nm) - zounami MU - 4/19 14:30:35
          white people(nm) - ajpe53 MU - 4/19 13:47:00
               white people are the worst (nm) - phrejd MU - 4/19 13:50:32
     I don't know how it happened but: - tigerden MU - 4/19 13:40:42
          Porter Jr. did sign of LOI with Washington. (nm) - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 4/19 14:34:27
          probably about right. - phrejd MU - 4/19 13:48:00
               The Porters got Romar fired in 2017 instead of 2018. - tgr MU - 4/19 13:53:39
                    no (nm) - phrejd MU - 4/19 14:04:47
                    So, you're of the belief that the Porters uprooted their - kmawv8 MU - 4/19 13:58:29
                         Yes. I think MPSr wanted to be a men's assistant and his - tgr MU - 4/19 14:04:47
                              I will have to agree to disagree. (nm) - kmawv8 MU - 4/19 14:09:51
                              you're ignoring the fact that all this is at the expense of - phrejd MU - 4/19 14:07:54
                                   Do you think that Porter isn't using his son to get a job? - tgr MU - 4/19 14:15:24
          Very plausible. (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 4/19 13:41:59
               Also hadn't heard Romar got hired by Arizona (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 4/19 13:42:10
     i'm certainly relieved this is settled. those few idiots - 90Tiger MU - 4/19 13:32:18
     Do you think it's absurd that Cuonzo was told by Sterk - tgr MU - 4/19 13:31:18
          I don't think that's plausible - I seriously doubt that - tigerdb MU - 4/19 13:45:25
               He wouldn't have talked to Jr. That would have been - tgr MU - 4/19 13:49:29
                    Cuonzo recruited well at Cal; I think he wanted to be back - tigerdb MU - 4/19 13:54:42
          They are friends - catbirdseat MU - 4/19 13:32:56
               I'm betting this is how it went down: - tgr MU - 4/19 13:37:53
                    And completely legal - catbirdseat MU - 4/19 13:40:50
     Who really cares. All water under the bridge.(nm) - Uncle John MU - 4/19 13:29:54
          There seem to be two people pushing against the story - StaleyTiger MU - 4/19 13:45:14
               I am not a KA'er and I am Gonzo for Cuonzo, yet I am pushing - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 4/19 14:40:46
                    we are of the same mind on this (nm) - phrejd MU - 4/19 14:50:14
                    I agree, I could believe that Romar knew what was about to - MU-TULSA MU - 4/19 14:48:19
               There it is (nm) - phrejd MU - 4/19 13:49:27
          Exactly - whatever the story is/was, it doesn't matter. - tigerdb MU - 4/19 13:41:19
               And I'm going to go to a Mizzou bball game for the first - Uncle John MU - 4/19 13:52:49
                    dayum(nm) - tigerdb MU - 4/19 13:57:16
                         Figure I'll roll in for a Saturday afternoon game with - Uncle John MU - 4/19 14:04:12
          phrejd was pretty anti-Cuonzo before the hire and I think - tgr MU - 4/19 13:32:41
               Yep. Look at his posts. He still refuses to give him - StaleyTiger MU - 4/19 13:39:09
               Was Cuonzo 28th on his list of preferences like Zounami? (nm - hou4mu MU - 4/19 13:37:48
                    Cuonzo was in my top 10 list of candidates.... - zounami MU - 4/19 14:33:32
                    Whether he was or wasn't he has come around and is - Uncle John MU - 4/19 14:05:41
               I'm on to him. I've called him out for that before.(nm) - Uncle John MU - 4/19 13:35:00
               lol, no. but those of you who have given him supernatural - phrejd MU - 4/19 13:34:47
                    Not at all, people are just very excited after 3 horrible - Uncle John MU - 4/19 13:36:39
                         yeah, that must be it. - phrejd MU - 4/19 13:39:25
                              I don't even know what that means.(nm) - Uncle John MU - 4/19 13:54:27
                    We get it. You don't like him (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 4/19 13:35:29
                         i like him fine. he wasn't my top choice, but he certainly - phrejd MU - 4/19 13:38:11
                              I don't see anything unethical; if Cuonzo didn't reach out - tigerdb MU - 4/19 13:51:39
                              He is a good recruiter and has proven it before Missouri. - TheWildcat STL - 4/19 13:39:40
                                   i've never disagreed with that (nm) - phrejd MU - 4/19 13:42:09
               Ding Ding Ding (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 4/19 13:34:41
     There is no rules against adults speaking to each other. - catbirdseat MU - 4/19 13:27:50
     If you believe that any major college coach is a saint and - BigSlickTiger MU - 4/19 13:24:54
     They can be good men who operated in the gray regarding - Mizzmi27 MU - 4/19 13:23:41
          Bingo!! The NCAA rules aren't the same as the rules set - BigSlickTiger MU - 4/19 13:26:09
     Cuonzo has never never even had a wrist slap from - TheWildcat STL - 4/19 13:22:09
          that's the point, wildcat. try to keep up. - phrejd MU - 4/19 13:23:45
               those people are very stupid, and you should only - TigerwTLP MU - 4/19 13:26:41
                    well that's a good point (nm) - phrejd MU - 4/19 13:28:26
               I personally think the Porters were already thinking about - Mizzmi27 MU - 4/19 13:24:50
               I saw that speculation a month ago and haven't seen - TheWildcat STL - 4/19 13:24:34
                    scroll down (nm) - phrejd MU - 4/19 13:24:57
     I think that pretty much covers it.(nm) - sprintcar STL - 4/19 13:19:46




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