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The BCS didn't allow the models to factor in point margins

Posted on: November 28, 2024 at 09:51:23 CT
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which limited their accuracy.

Sagarin often criticized the BCS for this limitation.

The BCS worried that allowing point margins to be considered would encourage teams to "run up the score" on opponents, which was considered unsportsmanlike at the time.

Regardless, the computer models were still more objective and less biased than the human polls.
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Bring me the head of Greg Sankey. - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 11/27 10:24:15
     Everything has been predictable - KC rules MU - 11/27 11:48:15
          Mainly it's b/c the strongest conference got even stronger - zounami MU - 11/27 11:49:43
               RE: Mainly it's b/c the strongest conference got even stronger - KC rules MU - 11/27 11:51:25
                    Wrong. The SEC is an outlier according to the computers... - zounami MU - 11/27 11:54:58
                         RE: Wrong. The SEC is an outlier according to the computers... - KC rules MU - 11/27 11:57:28
                              USC also beat LSU - Genco98 MU - 11/27 13:27:28
                                   How dare you stand in the way of zounamdick and his - tigerman81 MU - 11/27 14:25:10
                              The SEC, collectively, played 64 non-conference games. (nm) - zounami MU - 11/27 11:59:46
                                   RE: The SEC, collectively, played 64 non-conference games. (nm) - KC rules MU - 11/27 12:06:46
                                        A 1-2 record vs the Big XII isn't very impressive. (nm) - JeffB MU - 11/27 14:18:38
                                             RE: A 1-2 record vs the Big XII isn't very impressive. (nm) - KC rules MU - 11/27 14:22:49
                                                  The B1G is extremely weak this year. Its 4th best team is - zounami MU - 11/28 10:03:15
                                        This shows why computer models are far more precise... - zounami MU - 11/27 12:10:44
                                             RE: This shows why computer models are far more precise... - KC rules MU - 11/27 12:15:50
                                                  you're proving my point (nm) - zounami MU - 11/27 12:34:12
                                                       I'm not sure how - KC rules MU - 11/27 12:40:48
                                                            Don't waste your time. If a computer told him he was a lady - tigerman81 MU - 11/27 14:27:37
     We sure don’t need to be in another conference ruined by Tx(nm) - tigersailor MU - 11/27 11:38:06
     How do you reduce something that never was? (nm) - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 11/27 10:54:09
     Until there is an objective system with mathemtical - Genco98 MU - 11/27 10:53:19
          RE: Until there is an objective system with mathemtical - CPA MU - 11/27 11:03:21
               Earn with the humans and "eye test"? - Genco98 MU - 11/27 11:33:29
                    RE: Earn with the humans and "eye test"? - CPA MU - 11/27 11:38:58
                         We can agree to disagree - Genco98 MU - 11/27 13:02:04
                              RE: We can agree to disagree - CPA MU - 11/27 14:33:59
                                   That is your assumption - Genco98 MU - 11/27 14:39:11
                                        RE: That is your assumption - CPA MU - 11/27 15:02:17
                                             I have no problem with the 9-7 Giants wiining - Genco98 MU - 11/27 15:23:21
                                                  RE: I have no problem with the 9-7 Giants wiining - CPA MU - 11/28 10:09:21
          That would only be fair if all divisions were equal strength - zounami MU - 11/27 10:54:15
               Just like the NFL it will cyclical - Genco98 MU - 11/27 11:03:13
                    RE: Just like the NFL it will cyclical - CPA MU - 11/27 11:34:15
                         The SEC will disagree that it's "fine as it is" if deserving - zounami MU - 11/27 11:38:08
                              RE: The SEC will disagree that it's "fine as it is" if deserving - KC rules MU - 11/27 11:48:59
                                   in what way, then? (nm) - zounami MU - 11/27 11:50:17
                                        RE: in what way, then? (nm) - KC rules MU - 11/27 11:53:28
                                             RE: in what way, then? (nm) - zounami MU - 11/27 11:56:19
                              RE: The SEC will disagree that it's "fine as it is" if deserving - CPA MU - 11/27 11:44:42
                                   The current CFP deal ends after next year. Sankey will - zounami MU - 11/27 11:48:21
                                        RE: The current CFP deal ends after next year. Sankey will - CPA MU - 11/27 11:56:09
                                             The SEC would be fine. The other "playoff"... - zounami MU - 11/27 11:58:51
                                                  RE: The SEC would be fine. The other "playoff"... - CPA MU - 11/27 14:39:43
                         You don't think there would be interest in a 4 team - Genco98 MU - 11/27 11:37:49
                              RE: You don't think there would be interest in a 4 team - CPA MU - 11/27 11:51:49
                                   I mean right now they’re *****ing about having - Genco98 MU - 11/27 14:42:07
                                   It is a subjective system that has total "imbalances" - Genco98 MU - 11/27 13:00:43
                              The divisions would not be competitively balanced... - zounami MU - 11/27 11:38:43
                                   The divisions absolutely would be balanced - Genco98 MU - 11/27 19:11:56
     There are 4 solutions to the problem you're describing... - zounami MU - 11/27 10:43:03
          RE: There are 4 solutions to the problem you're describing... - CPA MU - 11/27 15:19:13
          re: (2) Switching to computer models for ranking & selection - JeffB MU - 11/27 11:06:54
               The sample size is large enough by the end of the season. (nm) - zounami MU - 11/27 11:09:11
                    How many games against peers did the SEC & B1G have this - JeffB MU - 11/27 11:38:34
                         The teams are "well connected" by the end of the year... - zounami MU - 11/27 11:40:09
                              That works a lot better in basketball where they play a lot - JeffB MU - 11/27 11:43:54
                                   "Does [one game] prove A&M is far superior to Auburn?"... - zounami MU - 11/27 11:46:56
                                        The well connected computer models predicted an ATM victory. - JeffB MU - 11/27 13:19:41
                                             upsets happen all the time... - zounami MU - 11/28 09:56:50
                              Sure because that whole connection between Vandy, Bama - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 11/27 11:43:17
                                   yes, the model is able to look at *all* the data... - zounami MU - 11/27 11:44:49
                                        I don't care if it is human or computers, using transitive - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 11/27 11:50:15
                                             That's not how computer models work. You're oversimplifying - zounami MU - 11/27 11:50:55
                                                  There are many many different computer models and each - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 11/27 11:54:11
                                                       That's why the BCS used a composite of several different - zounami MU - 11/27 12:01:52
                                                            Funny you mentioned the BCS - tigerman81 MU - 11/27 14:41:42
                                                                 The BCS didn't allow the models to factor in point margins - zounami MU - 11/28 09:51:23
          You and your computer models. Computers once told me that - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 11/27 10:57:37
               They're more objective and accurate than human polls. (nm) - zounami MU - 11/27 11:05:28
                    They do exactly what they are told to do (nm) - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 11/27 11:07:03
                         with extreme precision & accuracy (nm) - zounami MU - 11/27 11:08:28
                              So the founding fathers were black? (nm) - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 11/27 11:19:59
                                   The math doesn't add up. Swimming pools and credit scores - McMuffin MU - 11/27 11:23:19
                              "Extreme". So you think Kst is a South Carolina loss - Eggs MU - 11/27 11:16:16
                                   btw, do you not agree with the model's Top 12? (nm) - zounami MU - 11/27 11:28:18
                                   Yes... after SMU at #11, it gets questionable... - zounami MU - 11/27 11:27:27
     Let's let the SEC teams who do get in dominate - Gavin Citrus MU - 11/27 10:33:05
          non sequitur (nm) - zounami MU - 11/27 11:06:21
               It would help our case, at least in public opinion, which - JeffB MU - 11/27 11:08:57
                    Not necessarily. If the SEC dominates *despite* having... - zounami MU - 11/27 11:21:59
                         Well you truly never know - Gavin Citrus MU - 11/27 12:04:30
     tl;dr (nm) - phrejd KC - 11/27 10:26:48
          it's like 8 sentences (nm) - zounami MU - 11/27 10:31:06
               Is it "like" 8 sentences or is it like 8 "sentences"? - phrejd KC - 11/27 10:38:42
          It's too complicated for you anyway - good choice. - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 11/27 10:28:07
               It's cute when you do this - phrejd KC - 11/27 10:39:16




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