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You have the right to self defense, that is correct.

Posted on: June 8, 2022 at 16:47:20 CT
ummmm MU
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You do not have the right to infringe on my property rights. So, you don't get to take my gun in your second scenario. Sorry.
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Anyone supporting red flag laws - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 6/8 15:06:52
     who makes the decision? - fatrat MU - 6/8 16:25:15
          A judge - Spanky KU - 6/8 17:01:55
               guilty until proven inocent - fatrat MU - 6/8 17:38:53
                    Due process(nm) - Spanky KU - 6/8 17:47:32
     We lock up people who haven’t been convicted of a crime - El-ahrairah BAMA - 6/8 15:56:50
     Correct. Guilty until proven innocent.(nm) - DollarSigns MU - 6/8 15:40:07
     Can you explain why you think that? I support red flag laws - *M* KC - 6/8 15:22:35
          Because this allows the legal system, at their subjective - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 6/8 15:30:36
               Another good example--even more timely - *M* KC - 6/8 15:53:55
                    What if he doesn't admit his intention? (nm) - ummmm MU - 6/8 16:07:02
                         Then it's a different case. And a more difficult one* - *M* KC - 6/8 16:08:22
                              Then you put it up to an impartial DC area judge - ummmm MU - 6/8 16:10:35
                                   RE: Then you put it up to an impartial DC area judge - *M* KC - 6/8 16:14:06
                                        Well, the real world example happened in a DC area - ummmm MU - 6/8 16:18:38
                                             RE: Well, the real world example happened in a DC area - *M* KC - 6/8 16:21:54
                                                  There is nothing good about red flag laws. Nothing. - ummmm MU - 6/8 16:25:33
                                                       He is a liberal (nm) - Panthera MU - 6/8 18:17:29
                                                       The right not to be slaughtered is simply - *M* KC - 6/8 16:34:53
                                                            Well, one's right to life does not mean taking property from - ummmm MU - 6/8 16:39:02
                                                                 It can. If you point your gun at me and tell me you're - *M* KC - 6/8 16:43:41
                                                                      You have the right to self defense, that is correct. - ummmm MU - 6/8 16:47:20
                                                                           I’d do it anyway - *M* KC - 6/8 17:25:58
                    Showing up with guns and making threats is an action - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 6/8 15:59:40
                         I agree, it is an overt act. But merely admitting "this is - *M* KC - 6/8 16:02:52
                    Wouldn't that already be covered under conspiracy laws? (nm) - JeffB MU - 6/8 15:56:41
                         No. He's acting alone. It's not a conspiracy unless there - *M* KC - 6/8 15:59:08
               I disagree - *M* KC - 6/8 15:32:46
                    RFLs allow violate equal protection. They are triggered by - BH O'bonga MU - 6/8 15:56:15
                    What safeguards are there to protect you, not from anything - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 6/8 15:37:24
                         RE: What safeguards are there to protect you, not from anything - *M* KC - 6/8 15:45:59
                              Now you just have to define overt act and crime. - ummmm MU - 6/8 15:59:28
                                   but if you save one life.... (nm) - kmawv8 MU - 6/8 16:03:11
                                        Yeah, *M* bought into that mantra at the time - ummmm MU - 6/8 16:04:07
                                             If you can link to a post where I said - *M* KC - 6/8 16:07:15
                                                  I didn't say that you said it exactly, I said you bought - ummmm MU - 6/8 16:08:09
                                                       Actually my defense of masks wasn't based on that at all - *M* KC - 6/8 16:09:52
                                                            You're mischaracterizing it. - ummmm MU - 6/8 16:15:39
                                                                 The "mantra" which you said, a few minutes ago, that I - *M* KC - 6/8 16:19:04
                                                                      Yeah, there's no difference between "one life" and "a life" - ummmm MU - 6/8 16:23:13
                                                                           The mantra that kmaw cited, that you said I "bought into", - *M* KC - 6/8 16:24:51
                                                                                Yes, that is what he said. - ummmm MU - 6/8 16:34:12
                                                                                     You're the one who made a mischaracterization - *M* KC - 6/8 16:38:56
                                                                                          Wear a mask, you might save someone's grandma. - ummmm MU - 6/8 16:39:52
                                                                                               RE: Wear a mask, you might save someone's grandma. - *M* KC - 6/8 16:46:29
                                                                                                    You said it multiple times. And that is THE mantra. - ummmm MU - 6/8 16:48:29
                              Holding someone accountable for a crime is not, to my - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 6/8 15:58:15
                                   RE: Holding someone accountable for a crime is not, to my - *M* KC - 6/8 16:00:19
                              In the Uvalde case the BB gun incident would have been - JeffB MU - 6/8 15:54:48
                                   RE: In the Uvalde case the BB gun incident would have been - *M* KC - 6/8 15:58:36
                                        You have already changed your story from overt acts only to - JeffB MU - 6/8 16:16:26
                                             No, I didn't - *M* KC - 6/8 16:20:16
                                                  You originally wrote: - JeffB MU - 6/8 16:31:17
                                        So, the "due process" is expanding from your overt act - ummmm MU - 6/8 16:02:59
                                        What if that well treated patient goes off their meds? - kmawv8 MU - 6/8 16:01:12
                                   That problem is how one defines "mental issues". - kmawv8 MU - 6/8 15:55:46
                                        Exactly. Communist Russia was notorious for locking people - JeffB MU - 6/8 15:58:23
          due process must not mean much to you (nm) - Sal CMSU - 6/8 15:30:29
               as donald trump said "Take the guns first. Go through due - noodle MU - 6/8 15:40:00
               It means a great deal to me. I've spent the last - *M* KC - 6/8 15:34:02
          of course you do (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 6/8 15:28:08
     ^^^red flag^^^(nm) - cnk ATL - 6/8 15:11:58
          ^^^ red neck ^^^(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 6/8 15:21:35




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