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No, I didn't
Posted on: June 8, 2022 at 16:20:16 CT
*M*
KC
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You raised mental health issues and I responded.
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Anyone supporting red flag laws
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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6/8 15:06:52
who makes the decision?
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fatrat
MU
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6/8 16:25:15
A judge
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Spanky
KU
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6/8 17:01:55
guilty until proven inocent
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fatrat
MU
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6/8 17:38:53
Due process(nm)
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Spanky
KU
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6/8 17:47:32
We lock up people who haven’t been convicted of a crime
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El-ahrairah
BAMA
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6/8 15:56:50
Correct. Guilty until proven innocent.(nm)
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DollarSigns
MU
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6/8 15:40:07
Can you explain why you think that? I support red flag laws
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*M*
KC
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6/8 15:22:35
Because this allows the legal system, at their subjective
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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6/8 15:30:36
Another good example--even more timely
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*M*
KC
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6/8 15:53:55
What if he doesn't admit his intention? (nm)
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ummmm
MU
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6/8 16:07:02
Then it's a different case. And a more difficult one*
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*M*
KC
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6/8 16:08:22
Then you put it up to an impartial DC area judge
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ummmm
MU
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6/8 16:10:35
RE: Then you put it up to an impartial DC area judge
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*M*
KC
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6/8 16:14:06
Well, the real world example happened in a DC area
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ummmm
MU
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6/8 16:18:38
RE: Well, the real world example happened in a DC area
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*M*
KC
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6/8 16:21:54
There is nothing good about red flag laws. Nothing.
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ummmm
MU
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6/8 16:25:33
He is a liberal (nm)
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Panthera
MU
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6/8 18:17:29
The right not to be slaughtered is simply
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*M*
KC
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6/8 16:34:53
Well, one's right to life does not mean taking property from
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ummmm
MU
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6/8 16:39:02
It can. If you point your gun at me and tell me you're
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*M*
KC
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6/8 16:43:41
You have the right to self defense, that is correct.
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ummmm
MU
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6/8 16:47:20
I’d do it anyway
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*M*
KC
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6/8 17:25:58
Showing up with guns and making threats is an action
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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6/8 15:59:40
I agree, it is an overt act. But merely admitting "this is
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*M*
KC
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6/8 16:02:52
Wouldn't that already be covered under conspiracy laws? (nm)
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JeffB
MU
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6/8 15:56:41
No. He's acting alone. It's not a conspiracy unless there
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*M*
KC
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6/8 15:59:08
I disagree
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*M*
KC
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6/8 15:32:46
RFLs allow violate equal protection. They are triggered by
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BH O'bonga
MU
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6/8 15:56:15
What safeguards are there to protect you, not from anything
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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6/8 15:37:24
RE: What safeguards are there to protect you, not from anything
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*M*
KC
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6/8 15:45:59
Now you just have to define overt act and crime.
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ummmm
MU
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6/8 15:59:28
but if you save one life.... (nm)
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kmawv8
MU
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6/8 16:03:11
Yeah, *M* bought into that mantra at the time
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ummmm
MU
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6/8 16:04:07
If you can link to a post where I said
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*M*
KC
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6/8 16:07:15
I didn't say that you said it exactly, I said you bought
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ummmm
MU
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6/8 16:08:09
Actually my defense of masks wasn't based on that at all
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*M*
KC
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6/8 16:09:52
You're mischaracterizing it.
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ummmm
MU
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6/8 16:15:39
The "mantra" which you said, a few minutes ago, that I
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*M*
KC
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6/8 16:19:04
Yeah, there's no difference between "one life" and "a life"
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ummmm
MU
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6/8 16:23:13
The mantra that kmaw cited, that you said I "bought into",
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*M*
KC
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6/8 16:24:51
Yes, that is what he said.
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ummmm
MU
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6/8 16:34:12
You're the one who made a mischaracterization
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*M*
KC
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6/8 16:38:56
Wear a mask, you might save someone's grandma.
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ummmm
MU
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6/8 16:39:52
RE: Wear a mask, you might save someone's grandma.
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*M*
KC
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6/8 16:46:29
You said it multiple times. And that is THE mantra.
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ummmm
MU
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6/8 16:48:29
Holding someone accountable for a crime is not, to my
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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6/8 15:58:15
RE: Holding someone accountable for a crime is not, to my
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*M*
KC
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6/8 16:00:19
In the Uvalde case the BB gun incident would have been
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JeffB
MU
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6/8 15:54:48
RE: In the Uvalde case the BB gun incident would have been
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*M*
KC
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6/8 15:58:36
You have already changed your story from overt acts only to
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JeffB
MU
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6/8 16:16:26
No, I didn't
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*M*
KC
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6/8 16:20:16
You originally wrote:
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JeffB
MU
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6/8 16:31:17
So, the "due process" is expanding from your overt act
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ummmm
MU
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6/8 16:02:59
What if that well treated patient goes off their meds?
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kmawv8
MU
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6/8 16:01:12
That problem is how one defines "mental issues".
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kmawv8
MU
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6/8 15:55:46
Exactly. Communist Russia was notorious for locking people
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JeffB
MU
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6/8 15:58:23
due process must not mean much to you (nm)
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Sal
CMSU
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6/8 15:30:29
as donald trump said "Take the guns first. Go through due
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noodle
MU
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6/8 15:40:00
It means a great deal to me. I've spent the last
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*M*
KC
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6/8 15:34:02
of course you do (nm)
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SwampTiger
MU
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6/8 15:28:08
^^^red flag^^^(nm)
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cnk
ATL
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6/8 15:11:58
^^^ red neck ^^^(nm)
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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6/8 15:21:35