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I agree with most of that, but...

Posted on: May 4, 2022 at 14:08:18 CT
zounami MU
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I wouldn't go as far as saying "FMV of an NIL deal is whatever the offer is."

I get your point that FMV is hard to estimate and speculation about a prospect's *future value* makes it even fuzzier, but IMO a "reasonable person standard" still applies.

In other words, you can't offer an amount that's clearly unrealistic and beyond the potential/speculative future value of the NIL rights... an amount that any reasonable person would consider pay-for-play rather than a legit NIL deal/investment.




Edited by zounami at 14:09:28 on 05/04/22
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The NCAA wants "NIL" to be actual NIL instead of - zounami MU - 5/4 10:26:16
     This thing has to got to go to hell in a handcart before it - MU-TULSA MU - 5/4 11:58:18
          The NCAA can't do anything to obstruct - Rabbit Test MU - 5/4 13:49:59
               That's not true. State laws allow NIL but not pay-for-play.. - zounami MU - 5/4 14:23:28
                    No, they can't. - TigerMook MU - 5/4 14:35:49
                         The bill clearly states "compensation in relation to the - zounami MU - 5/4 14:48:04
                              RE: The bill clearly states "compensation in relation to the - TigerMook MU - 5/4 14:57:49
                                   For a deal to be NIL, rather than pay-for-play... - zounami MU - 5/4 15:01:57
                                        Where are you getting this? - TigerMook MU - 5/4 15:06:36
                                             It's implied in NIL... if the payment is determined to be - zounami MU - 5/4 15:08:24
                                                  It's not implied or mentioned in this statute - TigerMook MU - 5/4 15:12:56
                                                       I'll take it to the logical extreme to help you understand.. - zounami MU - 5/4 15:22:35
                                                            NIL is protected by law. Period. - TigerMook MU - 5/4 15:25:40
                                                                 Correct. It protects *NIL* compensation. So, how do you - zounami MU - 5/4 15:30:03
                                                                      NIL is what the parties say it is. - TigerMook MU - 5/4 15:39:27
                                                                           Wrong... an NIL claim wouldn't hold up in court if the - zounami MU - 5/4 15:53:52
                                                                                Apples to oranges - TigerMook MU - 5/4 16:12:19
                                                                                     Again, if a billionaire booster testifies that he paid a - zounami MU - 5/4 16:19:17
                                                                                          Jesus you are hopeless. - TigerMook MU - 5/4 16:22:02
                                                                                               Don't blame me for your fundamental lack of understanding - zounami MU - 5/4 16:23:38
                                                                                                    RE: Don't blame me for your fundamental lack of understanding - TigerMook MU - 5/4 16:42:07
                                                                      FMV has nothing to do with this law. Nothing. - TigerMook MU - 5/4 15:38:24
          I don't think they can fix it - XRob MU - 5/4 12:03:31
               They can if they university presidents band together and - alwaysright MU - 5/4 12:33:59
                    the Presidents don't have that power - TigerMook MU - 5/4 13:26:03
                         Not true. They would need support from their - alwaysright MU - 5/4 14:34:34
                              I think Mook is right in this case. They would need help - zounami MU - 5/4 14:49:03
                              Do you understand the legal system? - TigerMook MU - 5/4 14:37:51
               not without the federal government stepping in (nm) - zounami MU - 5/4 12:08:07
     The NCAA can't enforce anything. - Rabbit Test MU - 5/4 11:34:38
     The NFL & some conferences, including the SEC, help level - JeffB MU - 5/4 11:24:01
          Yes, because sports are a unique type of business in which - zounami MU - 5/4 11:28:36
     Who cares what the NCAA wants? They are the gestapo. - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 5/4 10:58:56
          My point was that NIL is a problem whether it's properly - zounami MU - 5/4 11:06:13
               It's no more of a problem than the arms race and money - kmawv8 MU - 5/4 12:38:52
                    it worsens an existing problem (mainly, lack of parity) (nm) - zounami MU - 5/4 14:15:36
                         I disagree. It just shifts where the lack of parity - kmawv8 MU - 5/4 14:28:08
                              You're implying that all the schools cheated prior to NIL... - zounami MU - 5/4 14:40:09
                                   I made no comment about Mizzou, good or bad. - kmawv8 MU - 5/4 16:04:19
                                        As I said, you implied it... and Mizzou's chances of - zounami MU - 5/4 16:07:42
                                             And, MU cheated plenty. - kmawv8 MU - 5/4 16:16:10
                                             I implied no such thing. - kmawv8 MU - 5/4 16:15:00
                                                  You absolutely did, but we'll have to agree to disagree. (nm) - zounami MU - 5/4 16:22:17
               Lol, it's not a problem at all. It's an opportunity. - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 5/4 11:17:00
                    RE: Lol, it's not a problem at all. It's an opportunity. - SEMO_Hillbilly UMKC - 5/4 13:14:02
                    Simple, right?.. Except that there are at least 20 schools - zounami MU - 5/4 11:26:07
                    Right. Put on your big boy pants or go back to daycare - TigerMook MU - 5/4 11:19:06
     Why can't they match now? - TigerMook MU - 5/4 10:40:57
          Because ISU's fan/donor base is completely outmatched by - zounami MU - 5/4 10:52:07
               Nike and Adidas say - Rabbit Test MU - 5/4 11:37:02
                    That's a strawman. You're refuting an argument I never made. - zounami MU - 5/4 11:42:09
                         Good luck coming up with FMV of a prospect's NIL. - kmawv8 MU - 5/4 12:37:43
                              I agree with most of that, but... - zounami MU - 5/4 14:08:18
                                   Well, precisely my point... - kmawv8 MU - 5/4 14:12:22
                                        yeah, it's a tough problem to solve (nm) - zounami MU - 5/4 14:13:43
                                             In my opinion, it's not a problem. - kmawv8 MU - 5/4 14:36:12
                                                  well it is, whether you realize it or not (nm) - zounami MU - 5/4 14:41:24
                                                       It's not, no matter how much you scream and cry on this - kmawv8 MU - 5/4 16:15:23
                                                            you're wrong, but we'll have to agree to disagree (nm) - zounami MU - 5/4 16:21:56
                              FMV of Nike owning every likeness of every good - Rabbit Test MU - 5/4 13:23:14
               So you contradicted your suggestion. - TigerMook MU - 5/4 11:04:53
                    No, they can't match in a pay-for-play market... - zounami MU - 5/4 11:05:42
                         RE: No, they can't match in a pay-for-play market... - TigerMook MU - 5/4 11:15:25
                              No, that's not what I'm saying. (nm) - zounami MU - 5/4 11:23:49




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