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RE: No, they can't match in a pay-for-play market...

Posted on: May 4, 2022 at 11:15:25 CT

TigerMook MU

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So you are saying that USC shouldn't be able to pay as much for NIL as Iowa State?

Not that it matters since the NCAA doesn't do anything and more importantly, state laws regulate NIL, not the NCAA. So this discussion continues to be academic.

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The NCAA wants "NIL" to be actual NIL instead of - zounami MU - 5/4 10:26:16

This thing has to got to go to hell in a handcart before it - MU-TULSA MU - 5/4 11:58:18

The NCAA can't do anything to obstruct - Rabbit Test MU - 5/4 13:49:59

That's not true. State laws allow NIL but not pay-for-play.. - zounami MU - 5/4 14:23:28

No, they can't. - TigerMook MU - 5/4 14:35:49

The bill clearly states "compensation in relation to the - zounami MU - 5/4 14:48:04

RE: The bill clearly states "compensation in relation to the - TigerMook MU - 5/4 14:57:49

For a deal to be NIL, rather than pay-for-play... - zounami MU - 5/4 15:01:57

Where are you getting this? - TigerMook MU - 5/4 15:06:36

It's implied in NIL... if the payment is determined to be - zounami MU - 5/4 15:08:24

It's not implied or mentioned in this statute - TigerMook MU - 5/4 15:12:56

I'll take it to the logical extreme to help you understand.. - zounami MU - 5/4 15:22:35

NIL is protected by law. Period. - TigerMook MU - 5/4 15:25:40

Correct. It protects *NIL* compensation. So, how do you - zounami MU - 5/4 15:30:03

NIL is what the parties say it is. - TigerMook MU - 5/4 15:39:27

Wrong... an NIL claim wouldn't hold up in court if the - zounami MU - 5/4 15:53:52

Apples to oranges - TigerMook MU - 5/4 16:12:19

Again, if a billionaire booster testifies that he paid a - zounami MU - 5/4 16:19:17

Jesus you are hopeless. - TigerMook MU - 5/4 16:22:02

Don't blame me for your fundamental lack of understanding - zounami MU - 5/4 16:23:38

RE: Don't blame me for your fundamental lack of understanding - TigerMook MU - 5/4 16:42:07

FMV has nothing to do with this law. Nothing. - TigerMook MU - 5/4 15:38:24

I don't think they can fix it - XRob MU

- 5/4 12:03:31

They can if they university presidents band together and - alwaysright MU - 5/4 12:33:59

the Presidents don't have that power - TigerMook MU - 5/4 13:26:03

Not true. They would need support from their - alwaysright MU - 5/4 14:34:34

I think Mook is right in this case. They would need help - zounami MU - 5/4 14:49:03

Do you understand the legal system? - TigerMook MU - 5/4 14:37:51

not without the federal government stepping in (nm) - zounami MU - 5/4 12:08:07

The NCAA can't enforce anything. - Rabbit Test MU - 5/4 11:34:38

The NFL & some conferences, including the SEC, help level - JeffB MU

- 5/4 11:24:01

Yes, because sports are a unique type of business in which - zounami MU - 5/4 11:28:36

Who cares what the NCAA wants? They are the gestapo. - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 5/4 10:58:56

My point was that NIL is a problem whether it's properly - zounami MU - 5/4 11:06:13

It's no more of a problem than the arms race and money - kmawv8 MU - 5/4 12:38:52

it worsens an existing problem (mainly, lack of parity) (nm) - zounami MU - 5/4 14:15:36

I disagree. It just shifts where the lack of parity - kmawv8 MU - 5/4 14:28:08

You're implying that all the schools cheated prior to NIL... - zounami MU - 5/4 14:40:09

I made no comment about Mizzou, good or bad. - kmawv8 MU - 5/4 16:04:19

As I said, you implied it... and Mizzou's chances of - zounami MU - 5/4 16:07:42

And, MU cheated plenty. - kmawv8 MU - 5/4 16:16:10

I implied no such thing. - kmawv8 MU - 5/4 16:15:00

You absolutely did, but we'll have to agree to disagree. (nm) - zounami MU - 5/4 16:22:17

Lol, it's not a problem at all. It's an opportunity. - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 5/4 11:17:00

RE: Lol, it's not a problem at all. It's an opportunity. - SEMO_Hillbilly UMKC - 5/4 13:14:02

Simple, right?.. Except that there are at least 20 schools - zounami MU - 5/4 11:26:07

Right. Put on your big boy pants or go back to daycare - TigerMook MU - 5/4 11:19:06

Why can't they match now? - TigerMook MU - 5/4 10:40:57

Because ISU's fan/donor base is completely outmatched by - zounami MU - 5/4 10:52:07

Nike and Adidas say - Rabbit Test MU - 5/4 11:37:02

That's a strawman. You're refuting an argument I never made. - zounami MU - 5/4 11:42:09

Good luck coming up with FMV of a prospect's NIL. - kmawv8 MU - 5/4 12:37:43

I agree with most of that, but... - zounami MU - 5/4 14:08:18

Well, precisely my point... - kmawv8 MU - 5/4 14:12:22

yeah, it's a tough problem to solve (nm) - zounami MU - 5/4 14:13:43

In my opinion, it's not a problem. - kmawv8 MU - 5/4 14:36:12

well it is, whether you realize it or not (nm) - zounami MU - 5/4 14:41:24

It's not, no matter how much you scream and cry on this - kmawv8 MU - 5/4 16:15:23

you're wrong, but we'll have to agree to disagree (nm) - zounami MU - 5/4 16:21:56

FMV of Nike owning every likeness of every good - Rabbit Test MU - 5/4 13:23:14

So you contradicted your suggestion. - TigerMook MU - 5/4 11:04:53

No, they can't match in a pay-for-play market... - zounami MU - 5/4 11:05:42

RE: No, they can't match in a pay-for-play market... - TigerMook MU - 5/4 11:15:25

No, that's not what I'm saying. (nm) - zounami MU - 5/4 11:23:49