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RE: It wasn't in the worst shape by a long shot and not even
Posted on: April 6, 2021 at 16:01:55 CT
Third_Eye
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Great Post, very thought out and nuanced. Wish there were more like it !!
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Reasons I can confidently say Martin won't succeed here
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FIJItiger
MU
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4/6 13:49:58
Steve Musser was a starting guard for us, so our current
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go tigers
MU
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4/6 23:02:46
What year was he our starting guard? I will help you
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Erwin Fletcher
STL
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4/7 09:39:30
since you had zero ability to play the game and even less
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Jeff80
MU
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4/6 22:33:22
I think your conclusions on all points are offbase
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MizzouGunner
MU
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4/6 22:08:15
RE: Reasons I can confidently say Martin won't succeed here
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SEMO_Hillbilly
UMKC
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4/6 18:31:02
very fair post. I'd add...
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LamarFrazier
MU
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4/6 17:09:40
By not mentioning it you discount MUs greatest asset
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Fred G. Sanford
U
S
A
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4/6 16:09:44
Both Kim and Cuonzo don't cheat - the only person who
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alstl
MU
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4/6 15:57:23
RE: Both Kim and Cuonzo don't cheat - the only person who
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THEGROVE68
MU
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4/6 23:42:36
YOU don't give a flying flamingo but a vast majority of the
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/6 16:19:44
This take is still as dumb as the first thousand times you
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zounami
MU
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4/6 16:12:10
It's crazy. He thinks if we had been in the big 12 with KA
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Lt. J. Dangle
MU
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4/6 16:17:13
Guy's an idiot. Same stupid **** over and over. (nm)
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Lerxst
MU
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4/6 17:20:20
correct (nm)
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zounami
MU
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4/6 19:24:06
If Haith cheated I would hate your opinion of Norm(nm)
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El-ahrairah
BAMA
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4/6 16:06:12
Agree with 4tigs
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meatiger
MU
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4/6 15:42:10
It wasn't in the worst shape by a long shot and not even
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longtimereader
MU
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4/6 15:31:37
RE: It wasn't in the worst shape by a long shot and not even
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THEGROVE68
MU
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4/6 23:49:47
The roster he inherited included:
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quicksand
MU
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4/6 17:57:47
Yet that is a better start than what he has going into year
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/6 19:12:04
RE: It wasn't in the worst shape by a long shot and not even
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Third_Eye
STL
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4/6 16:01:55
especially considering the players he either inherited or
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zounami
MU
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4/6 15:48:11
RE: especially considering the players he either inherited or
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Third_Eye
STL
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4/6 16:13:56
You might be right..
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Wibb
MU
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4/6 15:20:44
I probably worded that poorly, and didn't do a good
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FIJItiger
MU
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4/6 15:32:51
"his luck in doing so" is what Wibb was taking issue with...
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zounami
MU
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4/6 15:45:09
Exactly correct
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Wibb
MU
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4/6 15:47:21
IMO, the sample size is too small to draw a conclusion...
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zounami
MU
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4/6 15:50:28
Agreed. Hopefully a few of the guys he brings in
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Eggs
MU
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4/6 15:30:15
Agreed. CM could still succeed here, especially if he is
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zounami
MU
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4/6 15:27:04
(2) is deeply concerning... however, the biggest issue is
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zounami
MU
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4/6 15:15:52
RE: (2) is deeply concerning... however, the biggest issue is
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THEGROVE68
MU
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4/6 23:58:02
Weren't you confident that Scott Drew was a bad coach
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tgr
MU
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4/6 14:28:10
No, not that he wouldn't succeed
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FIJItiger
MU
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4/6 15:25:22
Wait, so when you said in 2017 that he was a bad coach, you
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Lt. J. Dangle
MU
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4/6 15:41:56
Yes, I had already formed my opinion of him
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FIJItiger
MU
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4/6 15:45:33
Funny in December of 2017, you said he was a terrific
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Lt. J. Dangle
MU
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4/6 15:56:10
That entire post is sarcasm
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FIJItiger
MU
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4/6 16:28:39
Well, that's pretty narrow minded and not really all that
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Lt. J. Dangle
MU
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4/6 15:50:34
No my opinion is the same(nm)
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FIJItiger
MU
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4/6 16:29:05
So, he's evolved but still a bad coach that just won
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Lt. J. Dangle
MU
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4/6 16:40:59
RE: So, he's evolved but still a bad coach that just won
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THEGROVE68
MU
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4/7 00:09:12
I would say that getting talent is a skill set required for
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Lt. J. Dangle
MU
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4/7 09:21:57
I wouldn’t want him as our coach, on account
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FIJItiger
MU
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4/6 16:43:02
Smart people evolve; others sre stuck in their ways (nm)
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hou4mu
MU
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4/6 15:36:17
RE: Smart people evolve; others sre stuck in their ways (nm)
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90Tiger
STL
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4/6 17:42:53
perfect reflection when i suggested drew to follow kim ...
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tmcats
KSU
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4/6 15:01:55
RE: Weren't you confident that Scott Drew was a bad coach
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Lt. J. Dangle
MU
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4/6 14:58:57
Dangle got them reciepts
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tsutiger57
MU
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4/6 15:05:16
2) He saddled himself with MPsr and hirin g a friend rarely
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tigertix
MU
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4/6 14:25:37
I disagree with your preface. How many coaches talking
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/6 14:15:07
But Cuonzo accumulated those roster parts
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FIJItiger
MU
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4/6 15:23:50
He did not recruit the Porters and those that followed them.
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/6 16:03:12
RE: He did not recruit the Porters and those that followed them.
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Third_Eye
STL
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4/6 17:33:57
Without CM we would have most likely still landed the
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/6 17:48:34
The worst part is, I really like CM and a person and coach
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Delicious
MU
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4/6 13:55:39
Agree, I think he is capable of building MU to
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FIJItiger
MU
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4/6 13:59:37
Per you opening line, I have to say this
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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4/6 13:55:03
Exactly. Nobody can oversell Mizzou 'scandals' like Mizzou
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Tigerfish
MU
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4/6 15:25:28
RE: Exactly. Nobody can oversell Mizzou 'scandals' like Mizzou
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THEGROVE68
MU
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4/7 00:14:58
Do we forget that Baylor was also banned from playing
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Outsider
MU
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4/6 14:31:38
Not to trivialize that man's life, but he never actually
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FIJItiger
MU
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4/6 13:57:59
No. Baylor was worse.
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alwaysright
MU
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4/6 14:21:39
No question. Actual homicide on the squad and a possible
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/6 14:23:53
This MU player was murdered
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FIJItiger
MU
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4/6 15:21:40
Was he murdered by a teammate only to have his coach try
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/6 16:24:37
Bliss's teams would have mudered KA's....
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tigertix
MU
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4/6 14:28:14
I see what you did there(nm)
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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4/6 14:44:48
I don't remember much of Bliss' team being around
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/6 14:35:35
But it wasn't. CM had a total rebuild of Kim's roster done
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/6 14:17:50
Of the 9 players who appeared in 20 games or more on
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sprintcar
STL
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4/6 14:29:44
Barnett was a top 100 recruit, Puryear was a solid player
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/6 14:45:32
Interesting take here
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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4/6 15:52:27
Barnett's success had nothing to do with CM. He was a very
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/6 16:10:47
Now this is amusing
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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4/6 16:15:48
His output went from 12 to 13 PPG. You keep focusing on
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/6 16:42:12
You keep claiming to be a coach but don’t understand how
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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4/6 16:48:14
Here is what I know as a coach. A guy who averages 12 pts
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/6 17:43:16
Did you watch the games?
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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4/6 17:47:25
I hope he had more impact he was on the court 8 minutes
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/6 20:08:59
Can you list the things that feel were so insurrmountable
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XRob
MU
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4/6 13:59:47
Alabama turned in 2 years. Its coaching and recruiting.nm
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FentonMizzou
MU
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4/6 14:13:03
Alabama was not in as bad of a spot when Oats was hired
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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4/6 14:36:52
and even then i'd say our AD's office killed the program.
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TigerA
MU
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4/6 14:01:56
The ADs office was likely forced to make that hire(nm)
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DollarSigns
MU
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4/6 14:10:23
The total destruction of MU basketball and overwhelming
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FIJItiger
MU
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4/6 14:00:50
What a bunch of nonsense
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XRob
MU
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4/6 15:13:46
i forgot about how the APR complications have hurt us(nm)
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TigerA
MU
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4/6 14:02:21
That was a complete joke. Schools with one and done players
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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4/6 14:20:30