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RE: You're 'take' is naive beyond belief. Mostly white privilege

Posted on: September 17, 2019 at 09:10:16 CT

SEMO_Hillbilly UMKC

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You are one sad, bitter man. No one owes these kids anything. However, like most, I am pleased to see that most of them end up college graduates with options many in their families never had. Especially the inner city kids. Now are you saying that their lives are not drastically different after 4-5 years at Mizzou versus staying in their hometowns or going off to a local junior college to find out they struggle with college algebra with no support? Why don't you start interviewing them as freshmen and then again as graduates. Night and day.

How do you equate an 18 year old kid that doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground (all 18 yo's) to a professional "super band" of entertainers? Dumb.

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I used to be opposed to paying players - Iam4Mizzou MU

- 9/16 15:20:16

If a high school athlete wants to make money, go - Doc Epps MU - 9/17 11:21:03

What happens when they start paying players... - XRob MU

- 9/16 23:16:44

schools won’t actually be the ones paying the players - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/17 09:16:03

schools will pay for it indirectly... boosters and donors - zounami MU - 9/17 09:57:49

Let the free market decide. A US developmental league could - Emoji Man MSU - 9/16 21:30:00

if players get paid Title IX will radically change and - Ozland Tiger LSU - 9/16 23:18:22

LSU prefers the way they pay their players now. - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 9/16 23:27:18

The way amateur college athletes have been paid for over a - zounami MU - 9/16 23:30:26

You really are dumb.(nm) - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 9/16 23:31:29

no counterpoint?... just resort to personal attacks (nm) - zounami MU - 9/16 23:33:21

At some point you realize you are talking to a rock. - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 9/16 23:34:04

my previous post applies here as well (nm) - zounami MU - 9/16 23:35:01

Anyone who thinks a middle class white athlete is making - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 9/16 23:37:06

RE: Anyone who thinks a middle class white athlete is making - zounami MU - 9/16 23:40:30

The reason you fail zounami, and the reason you get mobbed - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 9/16 23:43:37

Actually you're the one who isn't comprehending or retorting - zounami MU - 9/16 23:54:56

it wouldn't just emasculate college football & basketball... - zounami MU - 9/16 23:19:41

There would be no interest for minor leagues not associated - zounami MU - 9/16 23:15:48

RE: I used to be opposed to paying players - bstiger MU - 9/16 20:42:02

and more than previous generations of college athletes - zounami MU - 9/16 23:14:54

so the principle involved is the amount of cash in the - 90Tiger STL - 9/16 20:31:29

most of which currently goes to non-profit universities (nm) - zounami MU - 9/16 23:14:21

Out of state tuition room and board is over - MNTIGER MU - 9/16 19:54:55

Elvis Presley coulda played for just the cost of a guitar, - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 9/16 20:19:45

if you think the playing field isn't level now, just wait - zounami MU - 9/16 23:21:35

Fair enough - if they want to pay more and we want to - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 9/16 23:28:14

I used to be opposed to paying lawyers - SwampTiger MU - 9/16 18:27:52

You & JG(nm) - Iam4Mizzou MU

- 9/16 19:00:51

JG actually needs one (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 9/16 19:12:25

RE: JG actually needs one (nm) - Genco98 MU - 9/16 19:48:13

Though somehow I figure we'd still trail the league in - GA Tiger MU - 9/16 18:27:51

Agreed. Players getting paid up front and in the open won't - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 9/16 18:30:21

No one's being exploited. It would be like you volunteering - zounami MU - 9/16 23:12:24

You're 'take' is naive beyond belief. Mostly white privilege - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 9/16 23:20:57

RE: You're 'take' is naive beyond belief. Mostly white privilege - SEMO_Hillbilly MU - 9/17 09:10:16

correct (nm) - zounami MU - 9/17 09:55:44

By the way, you could have non-black candidates for these - zounami MU - 9/16 23:26:53

You're absolutely naive beyond belief. - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 9/16 23:29:29

So you acknowledge that they're being given a tremendous - zounami MU - 9/16 23:32:10

Now we get to the heart of zounami. And it took less than - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 9/16 23:35:56

RE: Now we get to the heart of zounami. And it took less than - zounami MU - 9/16 23:42:44

Wrong, and your political agenda is showing. (nm) - zounami MU - 9/16 23:22:50

Just the way it is. If most of these kids had other - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 9/16 23:26:25

First of all, your racism against whites is abhorrent... - zounami MU - 9/16 23:28:54

I simply speak truth. If football fans really cared about - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 9/16 23:30:42

College sports have been amateur for over a century... - zounami MU - 9/16 23:34:34

They are entertainers exploited every bit as badly as - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 9/16 18:24:00

No one is forcing those "entertainers" to play NCAA sports. - zounami MU - 9/16 23:08:06

How is it any different than the thousands of grad - DHighlander NWMSU - 9/16 19:25:29

You serious dude?(nm) - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 9/16 20:16:18

RE: You serious dude?(nm) - SEMO_Hillbilly MU - 9/17 09:14:27

agreed (nm) - zounami MU - 9/17 09:55:23

he made a good point... do you have a retort? (nm) - zounami MU - 9/16 23:08:22

Then maybe you shoulda worked harder on your - GA Tiger MU - 9/16 19:34:32

Great idea...if you want no balance among the leagues and - GA Tiger MU - 9/16 18:30:19

One of the most foolish business models going right now are - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 9/16 18:39:31

I'm against most current income/wealth redistribution, but - GA Tiger MU - 9/16 19:33:26

+1... college sports is a complicated thing that involves - zounami MU - 9/16 23:10:34

I agree, because they are also pretending vast numbers - Fred G. Sanford USA - 9/16 17:37:41

this whole nonsense of pretending they are student athletes - Iam4Mizzou MU

- 9/16 18:01:23

They have received a "cost of living" payment each month for - go tigers MU

- 9/16 16:58:08

is it equal to the value they bring their university - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/16 17:00:18

It's more. The massive revenues from college sports are due - zounami MU - 9/16 23:02:55

That is neither the job nor the mission of a college or - MNTIGER MU - 9/16 19:57:40

i Know the mission of most colleges is to profit - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/16 19:59:45

and there it is - you clearly have an anti-university agenda - zounami MU - 9/16 23:04:54

I am pro letting people earn what they are worth - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/17 09:17:49

So you are opposed to salary caps in the pro sports? (nm) - zounami MU - 9/17 09:55:07

IF that happens, then ticket costs and TSF required - go tigers MU

- 9/16 16:55:43

Why would they go up - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/16 16:58:48

so naive (nm) - zounami MU - 9/16 23:01:46

RE: I used to be opposed to paying players - Ragarm MU - 9/16 16:42:55

And hiring MORE unneeded, overpaid bureaucrats.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 9/16 18:32:49

RE: I used to be opposed to paying players - MOCO SON MU - 9/16 16:28:12

Good - Iam4Mizzou MU

- 9/16 16:32:02

Colleges fell into a pool of money that won't stop - mu7176grad MU - 9/16 15:46:21

Ole Miss welcomes all new fans (nm) - samclemens MU

- 9/16 15:42:26

That's a dangerous path for college sports.... - zounami MU - 9/16 15:42:10

And why would that stop boosters from continuing to pay - MNTIGER MU - 9/16 20:03:19

The same way it currently does - NCAA sanctions... - zounami MU - 9/16 23:01:22

hopefully openly paying players eventually ends big money - southendzone3 SLU - 9/16 16:21:34

It would not. Just because a school is paying a kid 10 or - MNTIGER MU - 9/16 20:00:43

maybe an equal share stipend based on - Iam4Mizzou MU

- 9/16 16:19:28

RE: maybe an equal share stipend based on - MNTIGER MU - 9/16 20:01:45

It wouldn't, but that money would go toward a pool that's - zounami MU - 9/16 23:00:22

exactly (nm) - zounami MU - 9/16 16:20:45

socialism 101(nm) - tmcats KSU - 9/16 16:08:29

do you oppose public schools, social security, medicare?... - zounami MU - 9/16 16:19:34

not socialism but nice try(nm) - tmcats KSU - 9/16 17:22:41

They're socialist policies, absolutely. - MrBlueSky MU - 9/16 18:19:14

correct (nm) - zounami MU - 9/16 22:52:38

So you support allowing the market to decide a player's - zodiac6 JC - 9/16 16:09:46

i have for a long time said players should be able ... - tmcats KSU - 9/16 16:12:37

Same here. - zodiac6 JC - 9/16 17:28:09

They want socialism when it's detrimental, capitalism when - zounami MU - 9/16 22:58:17

You do realize that K-State would have no way of competing - zounami MU - 9/16 16:25:53

You have no way to know that. - zodiac6 JC - 9/16 17:35:18

Is K State getting top 250 recruits? - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/16 16:29:46

4 top 150's in hoops last two classes(nm) - tmcats KSU - 9/16 17:24:11

I don't know but we just landed one. Most mid-tier P5 - zounami MU - 9/16 16:39:41

both were locals - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/16 16:44:34

that won’t happen - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/16 15:52:05

It has to or it would corrupt the game.... - zounami MU - 9/16 16:10:00

it's not better to get it under the table as happens now(nm) - tmcats KSU - 9/16 16:14:16

I actually think you see more players stay in college - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/16 16:22:32

except that Tilmon never would have committed to MU in the - zounami MU - 9/16 16:30:23

You underestimate the money in the state - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/16 16:35:56

You underestimate the money in Texas, Florida, California, - zounami MU - 9/16 16:37:22

we have never outrecruited those schools before - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/16 16:50:53

It does change. We'll get out-recruited by a greater margin - zounami MU - 9/16 22:48:07

RE: I actually think you see more players stay in college - jj40 MU - 9/16 16:25:05

LOL @ "The market would decide"... all it would do is - zounami MU - 9/16 16:36:02

Yep...that's the way the market works(nm) - jj40 MU - 9/16 16:41:31

markets are regulated to prevent anti-competitive behavior (nm) - zounami MU - 9/16 16:42:39

same could be done here (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/16 16:45:26

how?... let's hear an idea (nm) - zounami MU - 9/16 22:56:49

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