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College sports have been amateur for over a century...

Posted on: September 16, 2019 at 23:34:34 CT
zounami MU
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it's a tradition and an opportunity that tens of thousands of kids around the nation would love to have. Anyone who doesn't want a part of it can do something else to make space for the kids who actually want to play for their school with pride, and get a free education and experience of a lifetime in the process.
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I used to be opposed to paying players - Iam4Mizzou MU - 9/16 15:20:16
     If a high school athlete wants to make money, go - Doc Epps MU - 9/17 11:21:03
     What happens when they start paying players... - XRob MU - 9/16 23:16:44
          schools won’t actually be the ones paying the players - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/17 09:16:03
               schools will pay for it indirectly... boosters and donors - zounami MU - 9/17 09:57:49
     Let the free market decide. A US developmental league could - Emoji Man MSU - 9/16 21:30:00
          if players get paid Title IX will radically change and - Ozland Tiger LSU - 9/16 23:18:22
               LSU prefers the way they pay their players now. - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 9/16 23:27:18
                    The way amateur college athletes have been paid for over a - zounami MU - 9/16 23:30:26
                         You really are dumb.(nm) - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 9/16 23:31:29
                              no counterpoint?... just resort to personal attacks (nm) - zounami MU - 9/16 23:33:21
                                   At some point you realize you are talking to a rock. - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 9/16 23:34:04
                                        my previous post applies here as well (nm) - zounami MU - 9/16 23:35:01
                                             Anyone who thinks a middle class white athlete is making - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 9/16 23:37:06
                                                  RE: Anyone who thinks a middle class white athlete is making - zounami MU - 9/16 23:40:30
                                                       The reason you fail zounami, and the reason you get mobbed - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 9/16 23:43:37
                                                            Actually you're the one who isn't comprehending or retorting - zounami MU - 9/16 23:54:56
               it wouldn't just emasculate college football & basketball... - zounami MU - 9/16 23:19:41
          There would be no interest for minor leagues not associated - zounami MU - 9/16 23:15:48
     RE: I used to be opposed to paying players - bstiger MU - 9/16 20:42:02
          and more than previous generations of college athletes - zounami MU - 9/16 23:14:54
     so the principle involved is the amount of cash in the - 90Tiger STL - 9/16 20:31:29
          most of which currently goes to non-profit universities (nm) - zounami MU - 9/16 23:14:21
     Out of state tuition room and board is over - MNTIGER MU - 9/16 19:54:55
          Elvis Presley coulda played for just the cost of a guitar, - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 9/16 20:19:45
               if you think the playing field isn't level now, just wait - zounami MU - 9/16 23:21:35
                    Fair enough - if they want to pay more and we want to - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 9/16 23:28:14
     I used to be opposed to paying lawyers - SwampTiger MU - 9/16 18:27:52
          You & JG(nm) - Iam4Mizzou MU - 9/16 19:00:51
               JG actually needs one (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 9/16 19:12:25
                    RE: JG actually needs one (nm) - Genco98 MU - 9/16 19:48:13
     Though somehow I figure we'd still trail the league in - GA Tiger MU - 9/16 18:27:51
          Agreed. Players getting paid up front and in the open won't - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 9/16 18:30:21
               No one's being exploited. It would be like you volunteering - zounami MU - 9/16 23:12:24
                    You're 'take' is naive beyond belief. Mostly white privilege - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 9/16 23:20:57
                         RE: You're 'take' is naive beyond belief. Mostly white privilege - SEMO_Hillbilly MU - 9/17 09:10:16
                              correct (nm) - zounami MU - 9/17 09:55:44
                         By the way, you could have non-black candidates for these - zounami MU - 9/16 23:26:53
                              You're absolutely naive beyond belief. - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 9/16 23:29:29
                                   So you acknowledge that they're being given a tremendous - zounami MU - 9/16 23:32:10
                                        Now we get to the heart of zounami. And it took less than - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 9/16 23:35:56
                                             RE: Now we get to the heart of zounami. And it took less than - zounami MU - 9/16 23:42:44
                         Wrong, and your political agenda is showing. (nm) - zounami MU - 9/16 23:22:50
                              Just the way it is. If most of these kids had other - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 9/16 23:26:25
                                   First of all, your racism against whites is abhorrent... - zounami MU - 9/16 23:28:54
                                        I simply speak truth. If football fans really cared about - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 9/16 23:30:42
                                             College sports have been amateur for over a century... - zounami MU - 9/16 23:34:34
     They are entertainers exploited every bit as badly as - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 9/16 18:24:00
          No one is forcing those "entertainers" to play NCAA sports. - zounami MU - 9/16 23:08:06
          How is it any different than the thousands of grad - DHighlander NWMSU - 9/16 19:25:29
               You serious dude?(nm) - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 9/16 20:16:18
                    RE: You serious dude?(nm) - SEMO_Hillbilly MU - 9/17 09:14:27
                         agreed (nm) - zounami MU - 9/17 09:55:23
                    he made a good point... do you have a retort? (nm) - zounami MU - 9/16 23:08:22
               Then maybe you shoulda worked harder on your - GA Tiger MU - 9/16 19:34:32
          Great idea...if you want no balance among the leagues and - GA Tiger MU - 9/16 18:30:19
               One of the most foolish business models going right now are - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 9/16 18:39:31
                    I'm against most current income/wealth redistribution, but - GA Tiger MU - 9/16 19:33:26
                         +1... college sports is a complicated thing that involves - zounami MU - 9/16 23:10:34
     I agree, because they are also pretending vast numbers - Fred G. Sanford USA - 9/16 17:37:41
          this whole nonsense of pretending they are student athletes - Iam4Mizzou MU - 9/16 18:01:23
     They have received a "cost of living" payment each month for - go tigers MU - 9/16 16:58:08
          is it equal to the value they bring their university - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/16 17:00:18
               It's more. The massive revenues from college sports are due - zounami MU - 9/16 23:02:55
               That is neither the job nor the mission of a college or - MNTIGER MU - 9/16 19:57:40
                    i Know the mission of most colleges is to profit - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/16 19:59:45
                         and there it is - you clearly have an anti-university agenda - zounami MU - 9/16 23:04:54
                              I am pro letting people earn what they are worth - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/17 09:17:49
                                   So you are opposed to salary caps in the pro sports? (nm) - zounami MU - 9/17 09:55:07
     IF that happens, then ticket costs and TSF required - go tigers MU - 9/16 16:55:43
          Why would they go up - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/16 16:58:48
               so naive (nm) - zounami MU - 9/16 23:01:46
     RE: I used to be opposed to paying players - Ragarm MU - 9/16 16:42:55
          And hiring MORE unneeded, overpaid bureaucrats.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 9/16 18:32:49
     RE: I used to be opposed to paying players - MOCO SON MU - 9/16 16:28:12
          Good - Iam4Mizzou MU - 9/16 16:32:02
     Colleges fell into a pool of money that won't stop - mu7176grad MU - 9/16 15:46:21
     Ole Miss welcomes all new fans (nm) - samclemens MU - 9/16 15:42:26
     That's a dangerous path for college sports.... - zounami MU - 9/16 15:42:10
          And why would that stop boosters from continuing to pay - MNTIGER MU - 9/16 20:03:19
               The same way it currently does - NCAA sanctions... - zounami MU - 9/16 23:01:22
          hopefully openly paying players eventually ends big money - southendzone3 SLU - 9/16 16:21:34
               It would not. Just because a school is paying a kid 10 or - MNTIGER MU - 9/16 20:00:43
          maybe an equal share stipend based on - Iam4Mizzou MU - 9/16 16:19:28
               RE: maybe an equal share stipend based on - MNTIGER MU - 9/16 20:01:45
                    It wouldn't, but that money would go toward a pool that's - zounami MU - 9/16 23:00:22
               exactly (nm) - zounami MU - 9/16 16:20:45
          socialism 101(nm) - tmcats KSU - 9/16 16:08:29
               do you oppose public schools, social security, medicare?... - zounami MU - 9/16 16:19:34
                    not socialism but nice try(nm) - tmcats KSU - 9/16 17:22:41
                         They're socialist policies, absolutely. - MrBlueSky MU - 9/16 18:19:14
                              correct (nm) - zounami MU - 9/16 22:52:38
               So you support allowing the market to decide a player's - zodiac6 JC - 9/16 16:09:46
                    i have for a long time said players should be able ... - tmcats KSU - 9/16 16:12:37
                         Same here. - zodiac6 JC - 9/16 17:28:09
                              They want socialism when it's detrimental, capitalism when - zounami MU - 9/16 22:58:17
                         You do realize that K-State would have no way of competing - zounami MU - 9/16 16:25:53
                              You have no way to know that. - zodiac6 JC - 9/16 17:35:18
                              Is K State getting top 250 recruits? - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/16 16:29:46
                                   4 top 150's in hoops last two classes(nm) - tmcats KSU - 9/16 17:24:11
                                   I don't know but we just landed one. Most mid-tier P5 - zounami MU - 9/16 16:39:41
                                        both were locals - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/16 16:44:34
          that won’t happen - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/16 15:52:05
               It has to or it would corrupt the game.... - zounami MU - 9/16 16:10:00
                    it's not better to get it under the table as happens now(nm) - tmcats KSU - 9/16 16:14:16
                         I actually think you see more players stay in college - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/16 16:22:32
                              except that Tilmon never would have committed to MU in the - zounami MU - 9/16 16:30:23
                                   You underestimate the money in the state - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/16 16:35:56
                                        You underestimate the money in Texas, Florida, California, - zounami MU - 9/16 16:37:22
                                             we have never outrecruited those schools before - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/16 16:50:53
                                                  It does change. We'll get out-recruited by a greater margin - zounami MU - 9/16 22:48:07
                              RE: I actually think you see more players stay in college - jj40 MU - 9/16 16:25:05
                                   LOL @ "The market would decide"... all it would do is - zounami MU - 9/16 16:36:02
                                        Yep...that's the way the market works(nm) - jj40 MU - 9/16 16:41:31
                                             markets are regulated to prevent anti-competitive behavior (nm) - zounami MU - 9/16 16:42:39
                                                  same could be done here (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/16 16:45:26
                                                       how?... let's hear an idea (nm) - zounami MU - 9/16 22:56:49




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