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Posted on: April 27, 2018 at 09:38:27 CT
FIJItiger MU
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I agree that there is no obvious choice currently to supplant Giest. And I agree with your point that losing Harris was a huge step back and detriment to the rebuild. This is going to come off negative but its not meant to be and I was very impressed with the development Geist made last year and he was considerably better than I expected he had the capacity to be.

But other than Vanleer he is by far the worst semi-regular starter at MU since the 1970's (I don't know what I can fairly assess that statement going back into the 1970's). You could make a case for Dibi Ray who started about half the games his senior year and was worse, or for Chip Walther who started like 9 or 10 games his senior year but he was a walkon. Either of those players it was extremely easy to find a supplanting replacement for.

And its not that Geist didn't play well, he exceeded his potential by a good margin and did better than expected. Given that it was by far our biggest weakness last year, to go into the next season without addressing some solution that doesn't give you an obvious choice for supplanting him is entirely negligent. In terms of SEC caliber players he is essentially a walkon, and we couldn't find someone who is an obvious choice to supplant him?
Barring some unexpected amazing development we are going to be sitting here at years end talking about how limited and poor the pg play was and how it crippled our ability to do anything.

Edited by FIJItiger at 09:45:17 on 04/27/18
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If the 2018 class wraps up with D Smith and Hinson - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/26 22:49:29
     Tilmon can be a force and I'm sure Cuonzo would like to run - alstl MU - 4/27 11:47:56
     Its the transition yr of what was a minimum a 3 yr rebuild - FIJItiger MU - 4/27 08:58:30
          There’s no obvious choice for a players that will - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/27 09:03:26
               This is what doomed Quin, an inability to find - FIJItiger MU - 4/27 09:26:34
                    Cuonzo maxed out the team potential last year - BOILERTIGER MU - 4/27 09:57:13
                         Disagree - FIJItiger MU - 4/27 10:01:38
                              The problem was Harris was more turnover prone - BOILERTIGER MU - 4/27 10:11:10
                                   RE: The problem was Harris was more turnover prone - FIJItiger MU - 4/27 10:14:01
                    If Pinson develops physically I think he can be - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/27 09:32:39
                         Top 13 seniors in Illinois... - redkerr UI - 4/27 10:43:50
                              247 has Pinson ranked 4th in Illinois - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/27 11:52:38
                         It's unfortunate Cuonzo didn't have the time to recruit - Domino MU - 4/27 09:45:59
                              Does anyone know Cuonzo's history with JUCOs? - FIJItiger MU - 4/27 09:51:18
                                   Cuonzo and the entire Keady tree - BOILERTIGER MU - 4/27 10:02:21
                                        Charlie Moore was a pretty good PG for Cuonzo at Cal - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/27 11:55:56
                                   jucos don’t develop th kind of talent they used to - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/27 09:59:48
                                        Seems to be the way Beard has rebuilt Texas Tech - FIJItiger MU - 4/27 10:06:25
                                             I think we want Dru Smith next year - BOILERTIGER MU - 4/27 10:13:04
                         But revisit your previous subject heading - FIJItiger MU - 4/27 09:38:27
     Hinson and Santos are listed as tall as Puryear, so - MU-TULSA MU - 4/27 08:16:50
          If there were more wings that could be a possibility - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/27 08:30:08
               CM needed to win last year to meet contract needs, he will - MU-TULSA MU - 4/27 08:37:10
                    This was always a 3-4 year rebuild - jlbomega MU - 4/27 09:02:02
                    I posted below about the roster in 2020 - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/27 08:49:17
                    I agree. He will be patient if Ramey doesn't sign with us. - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/27 08:45:10
                         If Ramey doesn't sign I still think Cuonzo will find someone - Uncle John MU - 4/27 10:03:07
     So you are thinking Ramey isn't coming? - jlbomega MU - 4/27 08:14:38
          No one really knows - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/27 08:51:09
     6 guys in one class is always a problem. - alwaysright MU - 4/27 07:01:17
          the transfers would not be part of this class (nm) - Yosa125 TAMU - 4/27 07:20:53
               Only Mark Smith would be - Domino MU - 4/27 07:27:23
                    Right. That's about what I thought. This really isn't a 6- - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/27 08:06:28
               Dru will play as a jr. Mark will end up a soph with - alwaysright MU - 4/27 07:24:05
                    Normally, I wouldn't either. But it's better than filling - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/27 08:46:31
          Who are the 6 guys in one class?(nm) - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/27 07:16:20
          It will work out. - catbirdseat MU - 4/27 07:15:04
               It does. After a year or two of total clusterfuk. - alwaysright MU - 4/27 07:24:33
     Is there any chance Watson could play some PG?....nm - CoolBreeze22 MU - 4/27 05:20:31
          The problem is breaking pressure & getting up the court - jlbomega MU - 4/27 08:18:23
               It goes beyond that - longtimereader MU - 4/27 10:26:46
          He's certainly capable of bringing the ball up the court. (nm) - Yosa125 TAMU - 4/27 06:29:31
               Anybody can play PG whe there's no pressure. But as - alwaysright MU - 4/27 07:04:50
                    And through experience and training, Geist won't be worse - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/27 08:05:24
                         That has to be the hope in the event no one is added - longtimereader MU - 4/27 10:29:11
                    Press isn't the issue IMO. You break that with passing not - catbirdseat MU - 4/27 07:32:28
                         Agree, that is the problem. We get no playmaking from - FIJItiger MU - 4/27 08:51:17
                              If we do get adequate PG play, it will certainly be a - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/27 09:05:57
                         Mizzou’s offense takes a lot of the half court - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/27 07:43:03
                              Yea, he gets in a tunnel and ends up with high difficulty - catbirdseat MU - 4/27 07:51:16
                                   Last year his decision making was better - didn't force as - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/27 08:14:44
     That's a worst-case scenario. In the past 9 years, Cuonzo's - zounami MU - 4/26 23:16:05
          Barnett will be tough to replace - FIJItiger MU - 4/27 08:48:07
          There is ZERO chance the team is better under this - alwaysright MU - 4/27 07:03:48
               ZERO? - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/27 07:14:59
                    Tilmon averaging 8 rebounds a game would be - catbirdseat MU - 4/27 07:46:16
                         Geist absolutely can get faster. Strength isn't the only - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/27 08:09:35
                              You can't teach quick or tall - catbirdseat MU - 4/27 09:41:49
                    zero - alwaysright MU - 4/27 07:31:28
                         Unlikely, yes. Zero chance? No. - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/27 08:13:14
                         You left off Hinson if he commits - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/27 07:39:19
          Kassius came to Missouri as a stud. Left - catbirdseat MU - 4/27 07:00:29
          Even on bad teams someone has to score - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/27 05:32:48
               I think a lot are overlooking the CM contract, if he - MU-TULSA MU - 4/27 08:20:02
                    It’s going to be a bridge year - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/27 08:36:50
                         I fear Tilmon will leave us after this year if he can get - MU-TULSA MU - 4/27 08:57:30
                              Would not surprise me if Tilmon stays 2 more. - cruiser MU - 4/27 09:01:23
                                   different type of big than Jontay - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/27 09:05:45
                              Yea that’s a possibility - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/27 09:00:13
               Your logical reactions to his phony sunshine pumping - MakeShift MU - 4/27 05:42:10
          I agree with the general idea here - zodiac6 JC - 4/27 00:54:42
               The key to next season will be watson and santos - cruiser MU - 4/27 09:04:17




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