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RE: The TSF changes is another good point.

Posted on: September 21, 2016 at 11:25:22 CT
K8L TRSU
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I don't know why my post got edited by the mod and then 30 minutes later it was deleted completely? I didn't know factual evidence about parking passes was a political topic...? Let me change one sentence and see if it's appropriate now...?

We've had season tickets for 30+ years and have used all of them this year so far. However, we ain't happy with TSF.

We got our parking pass "taken away" because we followed the directions in the renewal letter. It said to log in at 9am (like for single game tickets), so we did. At that time, no parking spaces were left. When we called to inquire, they said that other people sent their info in early and were given spots. They said they could put us in a parking garage across campus. When we asked why we were penalized for following directions, they said we "should've known" to call in early if we wanted a parking spot. "Sorry, tough luck."

Parking at games has always been a ridiculous mess but being slapped in the face during a difficult time in the program's history won't improve the relationship between fans and the program. I've been in that parking garage before for hours waiting to leave. They literally let every "ground level" spot leave before the parking garages are unblocked. One night, my parents left ground level and pulled into their driveway near Springfield before I was even able to back out my space. I am not joking or exaggerating - we were on the phone. Even the radio announcers said Saturday "this game is going to last 4 hours. You can't expect KC and StL alumni to make a commitment to a night game that will get them home at 2-3am." If you want to build a fan base outside COMO, you have to figure out how to be reasonable and loyal.

There's too much money being invested by donors to say they aren't loyal fans whenever they are treated poorly. That's not sour grapes; that's business. Capitalism says I can spend a whole lot less on a big HDTV and not sit in a parking garage for (literally) hours.
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Attendance Numbers. Potential for worst in 10 years. - jake_mu MU - 9/21 09:58:28
     Additionally... - implode STL - 9/21 13:12:53
          well, so far there has only been one home game that - tman KC - 9/21 14:07:21
     I gave up my seats and TSF a few years ago.............. - Fred G. Sanford USA - 9/21 12:34:14
          You do have to put your money where your mouth is - MakeShift MU - 9/21 12:49:37
          I definitely can't fault someone who gets priced out - MKrip MU - 9/21 12:48:40
     We all know the real reason people aren't going to games - Johnny Utah MU - 9/21 12:17:36
          NAZIs can't handle truth (nm) - TigerFan92 MU - 9/21 15:27:12
     Many have said lets move on from last yr. But some have - BingBing MU - 9/21 12:16:26
     TV is a viable alternative - ScottsdaleTiger MU - 9/21 11:52:38
          I at least understand this argument - Mutiger MU - 9/21 12:39:59
               Me too. - MKrip MU - 9/21 12:52:00
          that is affecting all football - FootballRefugee MU - 9/21 11:58:13
               Very true and folks need to realize & address it - ScottsdaleTiger MU - 9/21 12:09:47
     I don't think its anger re the protests last year - MUIntensity USA - 9/21 11:35:42
     It's a number of things - TigerMook MU - 9/21 11:31:15
     RE: Attendance Numbers. Potential for worst in 10 years. - MoArk MU - 9/21 11:17:56
          much like kU bball - nomadcowatbk MU - 9/22 00:23:10
     Everything is wonderful on campus and with Mizzou football - mu7176grad MU - 9/21 11:12:17
          You're not optimistic regarding the football program? - Gary P. MU - 9/21 11:23:57
               He hates it, can't you tell? He's hoping for failure. - MKrip MU - 9/21 11:32:47
                    it's almost like he played and has donated for decades - FootballRefugee MU - 9/21 11:51:25
                         I don't see how he's helping anything here other than - MKrip MU - 9/21 11:59:44
                              there are so many things you don't understand - FootballRefugee MU - 9/21 12:01:29
                                   hey, if all else fails and you and your butt buddies' - MKrip MU - 9/21 12:07:57
                                        aw, grasshopper's throwing a tantrum, folks - FootballRefugee MU - 9/21 12:09:40
                                             No, I'm just making fun of you and belitting your little war - MKrip MU - 9/21 12:15:48
                                                  keep telling yourself that, - FootballRefugee MU - 9/21 12:50:41
                                                       its simply obvious the political BS isn't the main reason - MKrip MU - 9/21 12:55:41
                                                            if it's obvious, show us the data and proof - FootballRefugee MU - 9/21 12:59:14
                                                                 I went back and looked at year after year of attendance - MKrip MU - 9/21 13:10:57
                                                                      that doesn't identify cause - FootballRefugee MU - 9/21 13:22:51
                                                                           It identifies your ignorance on the topic though. - MKrip MU - 9/21 13:25:21
                                                                                keep telling yourself that - FootballRefugee MU - 9/21 13:29:45
                                                                                     You're like a lost poopsticka with no wall, - MKrip MU - 9/21 13:35:01
     Am I reading that wrong? - MakeShift MU - 9/21 11:10:36
          It'll take a 69k avg for the rest of the home games to hit - jake_mu MU - 9/21 11:18:01
     Turkey and deer season(nm) - Erwin Fletcher STL - 9/21 10:55:15
          Maybe the Cards too if they can manage their series - jake_mu MU - 9/21 11:00:53
     Our fan base is terrible and heads for the hills as soon - livinsmall MU - 9/21 10:51:42
          I agree with this assessment. (nm) - go tigers MU - 9/21 11:44:39
          I totally agree. We have a fickle fanbase that's - MKrip MU - 9/21 11:15:31
          We've also been at the bottom of giving since we've been in - Gary P. MU - 9/21 11:00:17
               and we still weren't selling out after the 2007 and 2013 - MKrip MU - 9/21 13:23:30
               it's too bad there isn't a bigger donor base - FootballRefugee MU - 9/21 11:30:40
          RE: Our fan base is terrible and heads for the hills as soon - CPA MU - 9/21 10:58:34
          I sat through 13 years of hell with quite a few other - Erwin Fletcher STL - 9/21 10:58:16
               of course there are fans who are die hard like you - livinsmall MU - 9/21 11:10:45
                    You are correct winning changes things for the - Erwin Fletcher STL - 9/21 14:51:53
                    You are correct. There are 35,000-40,000 of us that go - go tigers MU - 9/21 11:46:40
          disagree - FootballRefugee MU - 9/21 10:56:27
               People are babies. (nm) - livinsmall MU - 9/21 10:58:09
                    Don't project. - FootballRefugee MU - 9/21 11:00:27
     I think we just don't have a lot of good fans who really - MKrip MU - 9/21 10:28:37
          The thing that kills me is the complaining - MakeShift MU - 9/21 11:15:23
               I know and those clowns get way too much attention - MKrip MU - 9/21 11:17:24
          Agree with you here. For 57xxx people it looked mostly full - jake_mu MU - 9/21 10:44:11
     Definitely the wifi. (nm) - DrViagra UM - 9/21 10:20:42
          The students definitely aren't filling up their sections and - MKrip MU - 9/21 11:09:27
               to be fair you have alot less students to sell tickets too - tman KC - 9/21 14:16:45
          You might be (and may not at the same time) be surprised at - jake_mu MU - 9/21 10:46:05
     I think it could be the worst in 15, maybe 20 years.(nm) - SuperTone MU - 9/21 10:19:01
          And I wonder if Sterk isn't making a big push for the South - jake_mu MU - 9/21 10:48:49
     It's 99% past issues. People are still ****ed(nm) - rob554 MU - 9/21 10:08:43
          RE: It's 99% passed issues. People are still ****ed(nm) - K8L TRSU - 9/21 10:45:46
               The TSF changes is another good point. - MKrip MU - 9/21 11:20:05
                    RE: The TSF changes is another good point. - K8L TRSU - 9/21 11:25:22
               There are maybe 15000 pocket books that renew the 40000 - jake_mu MU - 9/21 10:54:30
                    There's a request with your season ticket order to improve - MKrip MU - 9/21 11:07:47
                         always on the fan. How about they call us one time when - tman KC - 9/21 14:20:40
                    agreed - FootballRefugee MU - 9/21 10:58:00
          I seriously doubt it. Our total fanbase was weak before - MKrip MU - 9/21 10:29:42
               it is the biggest deal. it made people re prioritize.(nm) - SuperTone MU - 9/21 10:31:04
                    I think winning only 5 games and being a few seasons - MKrip MU - 9/21 10:32:50
                         you can wish that to be true. doesn't make it so.(nm) - SuperTone MU - 9/21 10:33:11
                              I know its true and quit making stuff up. - MKrip MU - 9/21 11:05:28
                                   wow. He is spot on. you don't give people a reason - tman KC - 9/21 14:22:43
                                        I'm definitely conservative, just not a retarded one. - MKrip MU - 9/21 15:58:58
                                             Not a chance in hell. Your posts give you away - tman KC - 9/21 17:53:05
                                                  I'm sure anyone left of the KKK is a liberal to your type. - MKrip MU - 9/21 19:51:18
          If that is true - Gaseous Clay MU - 9/21 10:13:08
               Its not true, at least not the biggest reason. - MKrip MU - 9/21 11:13:04
                    RE: Its not true, at least not the biggest reason. - Gaseous Clay MU - 9/21 11:43:46
                         its fun, isn't it? - MKrip MU - 9/21 11:48:33
                              We were not full in our best years - tman KC - 9/21 14:26:33
               yes, let people call you a racist and do nothing. - SuperTone MU - 9/21 10:19:36
                    People who complain are people that have no idea how to - Gaseous Clay MU - 9/21 10:22:18
                         correct. their actions equates to complaining - SuperTone MU - 9/21 10:26:32
                              It would appear that people obviously care enough about - Gaseous Clay MU - 9/21 10:35:49
                                   that's the opposite of good management - FootballRefugee MU - 9/21 10:59:45
                                        Poor baby, you're still so mad over last year - MKrip MU - 9/21 12:13:36
                                        The intent of the protests were to disrupt the status of the - Gaseous Clay MU - 9/21 11:08:18
                                             it's their basis that is in question here - FootballRefugee MU - 9/21 11:11:55
                                                  So what do you hope to gain by your own protest?(nm) - Gaseous Clay MU - 9/21 11:19:49
                                                       you're mislabeling others and their actions again - FootballRefugee MU - 9/21 11:21:29
                                                            Lol. Then explain to me what it is that you're doing. - Gaseous Clay MU - 9/21 11:27:18
                                                                 at least you admit you are talking out your hind end - FootballRefugee MU - 9/21 11:28:48
                                                                      I have a point and I've explained it. - Gaseous Clay MU - 9/21 11:31:31
                                                                           and it has a false basis - FootballRefugee MU - 9/21 11:34:30
                                   allowing it to continue does worse.(nm) - SuperTone MU - 9/21 10:54:53
                                        It's not continuing. No coincidence that all has been quiet(nm) - Gaseous Clay MU - 9/21 11:11:28
     combo of three things. ****ty games, losing and politics - hefeweizen MU - 9/21 10:04:51
          I know of only one person doing that but I don't talk to a - jake_mu MU - 9/21 10:58:56
     Its the protest - mubobby MU - 9/21 10:01:55
          Probably for you, but its not the reason - MKrip MU - 9/21 11:14:05
               It is a large part. Better win big or it will take many - tman KC - 9/21 14:30:01
                    That's what I've been telling you guys - MKrip MU - 9/21 19:53:56
               the development staff knows - FootballRefugee MU - 9/21 11:23:31
                    I did ask them and they said mubobby was the biggest - MKrip MU - 9/21 11:37:05
                         some people come off funny with that tactic - FootballRefugee MU - 9/21 11:38:38
                              All he's done here is cried, moaned, hated, focused on the - MKrip MU - 9/21 11:56:24
                                   aw, poor lil' puddin' - FootballRefugee MU - 9/21 11:57:41
                                        Yeah, I have a game to go to this Saturday while you - MKrip MU - 9/21 12:02:32
                              I'm not the one here making up stuff and hating on Mizzou - MKrip MU - 9/21 11:52:06
                                   MuBobby sure isn't - FootballRefugee MU - 9/21 11:53:04
                                        Kansas is ====> that way - MKrip MU - 9/21 12:04:40
                                             says a guy that has probably never donated - tman KC - 9/21 14:31:59
                                             you don't get to choose for others - FootballRefugee MU - 9/21 12:13:48
          it's childish(nm) - MenInBlack MU - 9/21 10:41:33
          What many don't want to think about is the fact that our - BurgTiger MU - 9/21 10:11:36
               everyone already knew that - FootballRefugee MU - 9/21 11:03:03
               Agree completely with this.(nm) - Fool on the Hill MU - 9/21 11:00:59
               since when do local teams attack their supporters?(nm) - SuperTone MU - 9/21 10:20:14
                    exactly, people make rational choices - FootballRefugee MU - 9/21 11:48:22




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