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i hope there'd be some kind of requirement
Posted on: July 25, 2016 at 22:28:22 CT
TigerwTLP
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no clue what their plan is though
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Free college for everybody
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615Tiger
STL
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7/25 22:13:47
right? why wouldn't we want more people to be educated?
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TigerwTLP
MU
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7/25 22:14:53
why not let people decide what is best for themselves?
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SuperTone
MU
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7/26 06:50:43
I paid for my college
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El-ahrairah
STL
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7/25 22:23:33
RE: I paid for my college
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"Wild Bill" Donovan
MU
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7/25 22:32:06
because they can't. and we want a better society
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TigerwTLP
MU
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7/25 22:27:37
speak for yourself (nm)
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pickle
MU
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7/26 05:43:27
I think everyone should get free doctorates...that'd
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tiger98
MU
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7/25 22:55:45
it's not free degrees for everyone, it's free access to
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TigerwTLP
MU
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7/25 23:05:23
lol (nm)
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pickle
MU
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7/26 05:43:45
so the government picks the lucky. Back to my initial
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tman
KC
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7/25 23:08:44
'the lucky' they are actually kind of 'favoring' those that
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TigerwTLP
MU
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7/25 23:11:44
of course you think it is too high. should be 40K
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tman
KC
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7/25 23:15:31
right, i think kids that grow up in ****ty situations
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TigerwTLP
MU
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7/25 23:18:28
They have that today. They are called scholarships.
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tiger98
MU
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7/25 23:20:58
unfortunately, those aren't available to every kid that
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TigerwTLP
MU
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7/25 23:23:32
B plus inner city will get a scholarship
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tman
KC
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7/25 23:27:20
If you put your nose in your books and the best you
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tiger98
MU
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7/25 23:26:22
Then you support school vouchers?(nm)
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tman
KC
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7/25 23:20:25
vouchers for what? (nm)
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TigerwTLP
MU
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7/25 23:21:15
to go to a better elementary or high school
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tman
KC
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7/25 23:30:42
THAT'S an idea that I like. More control to the
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tiger98
MU
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7/25 23:36:17
yep. And wouldnt cost anything additinal. Might also cost
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tman
KC
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7/25 23:51:26
Whats wrong with access to free doctorates?(nm)
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tiger98
MU
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7/25 23:07:08
huh? nothing. they are giving access to that education
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TigerwTLP
MU
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7/25 23:08:27
They can go
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El-ahrairah
STL
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7/25 22:29:59
Do you think credit markets for
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Fat Drunk and Stupid
MU
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7/25 22:37:01
you miss a key point. Harvard, by setting fees and tution
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tman
KC
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7/25 22:40:24
so we want more people in $100k debt coming out of college?
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TigerwTLP
MU
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7/25 22:33:27
A 100k debt can be paid off in 5 years
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El-ahrairah
STL
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7/25 22:38:35
haha so $50k/year right out of college...
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TigerwTLP
MU
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7/25 22:42:57
50k is not unreasonable out of college
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El-ahrairah
STL
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7/25 22:49:09
very, very unreasonable. most don't make anywhere near
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TigerwTLP
MU
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7/25 22:50:44
I am still paying for law school 22 years later
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tman
KC
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7/25 22:45:32
i'm not sure that it is. this plan would make it so you
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TigerwTLP
MU
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7/25 22:48:24
I am very successful, and I am not who he is talking
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tman
KC
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7/25 22:50:59
good for you, honestly. you made it, you did well
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TigerwTLP
MU
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7/25 22:54:30
so free college for all because it might help 1%? 5%
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tman
KC
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7/25 22:57:43
"for all" it's not for all.
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TigerwTLP
MU
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7/25 23:00:06
so why is college so expensive?
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tman
KC
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7/25 22:38:22
college being expensive is a whole other, gigantic issue
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TigerwTLP
MU
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7/25 22:40:57
RE: so why is college so expensive?
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El-ahrairah
STL
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7/25 22:40:54
Ding ding
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tman
KC
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7/25 22:31:04
How much free college will one get over a lifetime?(nm)
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Bulldog Bob Brown
STL
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7/25 22:17:08
i don't think he mentioned, but i'm guessing the normal
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TigerwTLP
MU
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7/25 22:19:14
we already have too many people in college
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El-ahrairah
STL
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7/25 22:24:47
Will entrance requirements still be the same, say like
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Bulldog Bob Brown
STL
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7/25 22:22:52
i hope there'd be some kind of requirement
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TigerwTLP
MU
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7/25 22:28:22
Then you'll segregate people based on ability and deny
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Bulldog Bob Brown
STL
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7/25 22:36:20
Sounds like a way for government to yet again pick
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Bulldog Bob Brown
STL
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7/25 22:39:48
yep, life won't be fair for everyone. this is just trying
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TigerwTLP
MU
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7/25 22:37:44
So free if you meet what (income limits)
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tman
KC
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7/25 22:34:50
so far, it's family income
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TigerwTLP
MU
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7/25 22:36:17
Really. I will break this down in simple parts
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tman
KC
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7/25 22:43:43
the poor, which will get the education (nm)
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TigerwTLP
MU
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7/25 22:44:20
good. Now stay with me. What is the educational
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tman
KC
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7/25 22:48:03
currently? knowing they'll never go to college or do
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TigerwTLP
MU
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7/25 22:49:54
ah, so single parents in the cities will Crack down
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tman
KC
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7/25 22:55:20
i think kids will see that they have a way out
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TigerwTLP
MU
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7/25 22:58:20
so you are ok just giving free college to those in the
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tman
KC
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7/25 23:00:03
yes. i am 100% for helping people that don't have the
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TigerwTLP
MU
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7/25 23:01:49
If I were making $130k and had an 18yo, I'd just get a lower
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tiger98
MU
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7/25 23:09:20
then do that, you're more than welcome to
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TigerwTLP
MU
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7/25 23:13:00
When it comes to money, people will do what will
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tiger98
MU
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7/25 23:23:49
'save them the most money' which is unfortunate
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TigerwTLP
MU
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7/25 23:29:00
why should what you make determine if your son
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tman
KC
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7/25 23:12:38
because your son or daughter don't get to pick if they have
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TigerwTLP
MU
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7/25 23:20:35
starting with elementary education. But you aren't for that
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tman
KC
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7/25 23:32:23
It shouldn't and it's a silly idea.(nm)
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tiger98
MU
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7/25 23:18:37
So lets put a flat tax for free college
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tman
KC
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7/25 23:04:43
'flat tax' nobody knows how they're gonna end up deciding
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TigerwTLP
MU
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7/25 23:06:26
You said you don't want to pay 50%. How much you willing to
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tman
KC
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7/25 23:11:07
ummm... i'm not sure. i'm already paying a bunch in
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TigerwTLP
MU
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7/25 23:14:04
Thank you. so you are willing to pay 3% for free college
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tman
KC
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7/25 23:33:42
Would 3% from everyone cover it? I'm thinking it
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tiger98
MU
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7/25 23:39:21
3% isn't close but there are also a lot of
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tman
KC
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7/25 23:52:38
NO need. All go. There should be no rejections
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tman
KC
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7/25 22:24:11
Opportunity based on academic ability alone seems like
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Bulldog Bob Brown
STL
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7/25 22:26:16
Agree. Harvard could take all of East StL high
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tman
KC
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7/25 22:33:10
Most take 5 plus years. I am guessing your share should be
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tman
KC
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7/25 22:22:21
'most' may be right, but the 4yr, if that's the plan, is
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TigerwTLP
MU
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7/25 22:25:08
You do realise that there's more kids going to
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tiger98
MU
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7/25 23:16:24
How will this help those who have degrees now yet can't
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Bulldog Bob Brown
STL
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7/25 22:29:12
i don't know. i definitely know that a smarter society
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TigerwTLP
MU
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7/25 22:35:04
the math is pretty basic. What do you want to see?
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tman
KC
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7/25 22:28:57
i want to see less people that can't afford college
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TigerwTLP
MU
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7/25 22:31:32
how many you going to pay for?
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tman
KC
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7/25 22:16:41
why shouldn't everybody be able to get into the Ivy leagues
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"Wild Bill" Donovan
MU
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7/25 22:20:14
distributed among everyone, not much at all
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TigerwTLP
MU
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7/25 22:18:25