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Free college for everybody - 615Tiger STL - 7/25 22:13:47

right? why wouldn't we want more people to be educated? - TigerwTLP MU

- 7/25 22:14:53

why not let people decide what is best for themselves? - SuperTone MU

- 7/26 06:50:43

I paid for my college - El-ahrairah STL - 7/25 22:23:33

RE: I paid for my college - "Wild Bill" Donovan MU - 7/25 22:32:06

because they can't. and we want a better society - TigerwTLP MU

- 7/25 22:27:37

speak for yourself (nm) - pickle MU

- 7/26 05:43:27

I think everyone should get free doctorates...that'd - tiger98 MU - 7/25 22:55:45

it's not free degrees for everyone, it's free access to - TigerwTLP MU

- 7/25 23:05:23

lol (nm) - pickle MU

- 7/26 05:43:45

so the government picks the lucky. Back to my initial - tman KC - 7/25 23:08:44

'the lucky' they are actually kind of 'favoring' those that - TigerwTLP MU

- 7/25 23:11:44

of course you think it is too high. should be 40K - tman KC - 7/25 23:15:31

right, i think kids that grow up in ****ty situations - TigerwTLP MU

- 7/25 23:18:28

They have that today. They are called scholarships. - tiger98 MU - 7/25 23:20:58

unfortunately, those aren't available to every kid that - TigerwTLP MU

- 7/25 23:23:32

B plus inner city will get a scholarship - tman KC - 7/25 23:27:20

If you put your nose in your books and the best you - tiger98 MU - 7/25 23:26:22

Then you support school vouchers?(nm) - tman KC - 7/25 23:20:25

vouchers for what? (nm) - TigerwTLP MU

- 7/25 23:21:15

to go to a better elementary or high school - tman KC - 7/25 23:30:42

THAT'S an idea that I like. More control to the - tiger98 MU - 7/25 23:36:17

yep. And wouldnt cost anything additinal. Might also cost - tman KC - 7/25 23:51:26

Whats wrong with access to free doctorates?(nm) - tiger98 MU - 7/25 23:07:08

huh? nothing. they are giving access to that education - TigerwTLP MU

- 7/25 23:08:27

They can go - El-ahrairah STL - 7/25 22:29:59

Do you think credit markets for - Fat Drunk and Stupid MU

- 7/25 22:37:01

you miss a key point. Harvard, by setting fees and tution - tman KC - 7/25 22:40:24

so we want more people in $100k debt coming out of college? - TigerwTLP MU

- 7/25 22:33:27

A 100k debt can be paid off in 5 years - El-ahrairah STL - 7/25 22:38:35

haha so $50k/year right out of college... - TigerwTLP MU

- 7/25 22:42:57

50k is not unreasonable out of college - El-ahrairah STL - 7/25 22:49:09

very, very unreasonable. most don't make anywhere near - TigerwTLP MU

- 7/25 22:50:44

I am still paying for law school 22 years later - tman KC - 7/25 22:45:32

i'm not sure that it is. this plan would make it so you - TigerwTLP MU

- 7/25 22:48:24

I am very successful, and I am not who he is talking - tman KC - 7/25 22:50:59

good for you, honestly. you made it, you did well - TigerwTLP MU

- 7/25 22:54:30

so free college for all because it might help 1%? 5% - tman KC - 7/25 22:57:43

"for all" it's not for all. - TigerwTLP MU

- 7/25 23:00:06

so why is college so expensive? - tman KC - 7/25 22:38:22

college being expensive is a whole other, gigantic issue - TigerwTLP MU

- 7/25 22:40:57

RE: so why is college so expensive? - El-ahrairah STL - 7/25 22:40:54

Ding ding - tman KC - 7/25 22:31:04

How much free college will one get over a lifetime?(nm) - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 7/25 22:17:08

i don't think he mentioned, but i'm guessing the normal - TigerwTLP MU

- 7/25 22:19:14

we already have too many people in college - El-ahrairah STL - 7/25 22:24:47

Will entrance requirements still be the same, say like - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 7/25 22:22:52

i hope there'd be some kind of requirement - TigerwTLP MU

- 7/25 22:28:22

Then you'll segregate people based on ability and deny - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 7/25 22:36:20

Sounds like a way for government to yet again pick - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 7/25 22:39:48

yep, life won't be fair for everyone. this is just trying - TigerwTLP MU

- 7/25 22:37:44

So free if you meet what (income limits) - tman KC - 7/25 22:34:50

so far, it's family income - TigerwTLP MU

- 7/25 22:36:17

Really. I will break this down in simple parts - tman KC - 7/25 22:43:43

the poor, which will get the education (nm) - TigerwTLP MU

- 7/25 22:44:20

good. Now stay with me. What is the educational - tman KC - 7/25 22:48:03

currently? knowing they'll never go to college or do - TigerwTLP MU

- 7/25 22:49:54

ah, so single parents in the cities will Crack down - tman KC - 7/25 22:55:20

i think kids will see that they have a way out - TigerwTLP MU

- 7/25 22:58:20

so you are ok just giving free college to those in the - tman KC - 7/25 23:00:03

yes. i am 100% for helping people that don't have the - TigerwTLP MU

- 7/25 23:01:49

If I were making $130k and had an 18yo, I'd just get a lower - tiger98 MU - 7/25 23:09:20

then do that, you're more than welcome to - TigerwTLP MU

- 7/25 23:13:00

When it comes to money, people will do what will - tiger98 MU - 7/25 23:23:49

'save them the most money' which is unfortunate - TigerwTLP MU

- 7/25 23:29:00

why should what you make determine if your son - tman KC - 7/25 23:12:38

because your son or daughter don't get to pick if they have - TigerwTLP MU

- 7/25 23:20:35

starting with elementary education. But you aren't for that - tman KC - 7/25 23:32:23

It shouldn't and it's a silly idea.(nm) - tiger98 MU - 7/25 23:18:37

So lets put a flat tax for free college - tman KC - 7/25 23:04:43

'flat tax' nobody knows how they're gonna end up deciding - TigerwTLP MU

- 7/25 23:06:26

You said you don't want to pay 50%. How much you willing to - tman KC - 7/25 23:11:07

ummm... i'm not sure. i'm already paying a bunch in - TigerwTLP MU

- 7/25 23:14:04

Thank you. so you are willing to pay 3% for free college - tman KC - 7/25 23:33:42

Would 3% from everyone cover it? I'm thinking it - tiger98 MU - 7/25 23:39:21

3% isn't close but there are also a lot of - tman KC - 7/25 23:52:38

NO need. All go. There should be no rejections - tman KC - 7/25 22:24:11

Opportunity based on academic ability alone seems like - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 7/25 22:26:16

Agree. Harvard could take all of East StL high - tman KC - 7/25 22:33:10

Most take 5 plus years. I am guessing your share should be - tman KC - 7/25 22:22:21

'most' may be right, but the 4yr, if that's the plan, is - TigerwTLP MU

- 7/25 22:25:08

You do realise that there's more kids going to - tiger98 MU - 7/25 23:16:24

How will this help those who have degrees now yet can't - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 7/25 22:29:12

i don't know. i definitely know that a smarter society - TigerwTLP MU

- 7/25 22:35:04

the math is pretty basic. What do you want to see? - tman KC - 7/25 22:28:57

i want to see less people that can't afford college - TigerwTLP MU

- 7/25 22:31:32

how many you going to pay for? - tman KC - 7/25 22:16:41

why shouldn't everybody be able to get into the Ivy leagues - "Wild Bill" Donovan MU - 7/25 22:20:14

distributed among everyone, not much at all - TigerwTLP MU

- 7/25 22:18:25

Opportunity based on academic ability alone seems like

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