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Posted on: May 6, 2025 at 11:31:06 CT
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Do those who think this also think this is the forever paradigm? That the US will just exist indefinitely as a consumer economy and other nations will just continue to exist as producer economies with lower standards of living and wages?

Nothing lasts forever. Markets and economies change all the time. Eventually, the US won't have the world's reserve currency, so trade deficits would have a negative impact on the currency. However, for now we enjoy the benefits of having it, so may as well take advantage of it.

Do you feel this is sustainable?

As long as we have the world's reserve currency, yes. If that is lost, then a shift would need to happen, and firms would make that switch voluntarily because they don't want to lose their competitive edge.

Is it best for the US in the long-term? Being dependent on other nations and peoples for critical items as well as non-essential?

Yes. It isn't "dependence". It may be reliance, but those countries rely on us for critical items, as well. Not every country can produce everything. That's why trade is important and weaponizing it is dangerous.
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Re: discussion below on Mfg "never coming back" and - 90Tiger STL - 5/6 09:01:33
     How would the US direct this end - haeffb MU - 5/6 13:47:54
     I don't think it is sustainable and I am very much in favor - JeffB MU - 5/6 11:27:44
          The first step is for people to reject consumerism. The - TigerMatt STL - 5/6 13:26:09
               Matt has been following Richard Wolff - marxist economist - 90Tiger STL - 5/6 16:21:04
               consumerism is the postcard of freedom and wealth. - Coors4bob STL - 5/6 14:59:09
               I disagree, despite the fact that I believe Americans have - JeffB MU - 5/6 14:27:15
          thank you for your answer, Jeff (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 5/6 11:34:48
     Food prices in the us are relatively low - El-ahrairah BAMA - 5/6 10:31:00
          RE: Food prices in the us are relatively low - meatiger MU - 5/6 10:35:39
               What is autorotation & how are unions preventing it? - JeffB MU - 5/6 11:24:37
                    sorry, typo for automation - meatiger MU - 5/6 11:26:14
                    and nobody really answered the question (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 5/6 11:25:34
     The problem is and always has been China - MU Diaspora MU - 5/6 10:30:06
          what problem? I asked questions nobody could simply - 90Tiger STL - 5/6 11:26:02
               US Manufacturing - MU Diaspora MU - 5/6 11:55:30
          Boomers gave all of that to China by choice - Columbian Gold MU - 5/6 11:11:30
               Yeah, but we didn't ahve to let them. - MU Diaspora MU - 5/6 12:00:22
                    you already did (nm) - Seagull MU - 5/6 12:48:49
          No, that's just your boogeyman that you use to duck - Seagull MU - 5/6 11:06:59
               Nope. - MU Diaspora MU - 5/6 11:59:41
                    that simply shows the damage you caused (nm) - Seagull MU - 5/6 12:48:37
          China isn’t the problem. The capitalists who value their - TigerMatt STL - 5/6 10:41:30
               Yes they are. Don't be a moron. - MU Diaspora MU - 5/6 12:00:52
                    that's not China's fault - Seagull MU - 5/6 12:48:21
               RE: China isn’t the problem. The capitalists who value their - TigerFan92 STL - 5/6 11:19:25
     globalization is the best long term solution - Seagull MU - 5/6 09:56:28
          that's intentionally vague (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 5/6 11:20:03
               what do you need specifics for? (nm) - Seagull MU - 5/6 11:24:35
                    RE: what do you need specifics for? (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 5/6 11:26:18
                         ok - Seagull MU - 5/6 11:31:06
                              'As long as we have the world's reserve currency' - JeffB MU - 5/6 14:18:36
                                   If the crux of the problem is a poor structuring of our - JeffB MU - 5/6 14:20:24
                                        That's been happening since COVID - Seagull MU - 5/6 14:34:24
                              Thanks for the answers. I'm not suggesting I support the US - 90Tiger STL - 5/6 11:34:26
          holy chit yer a nutbag commie(nm) - TigerFan92 STL - 5/6 10:35:41
               seagull is a raging nutbag of hate for jews, govt - RHAYWORTH MU - 5/6 10:59:04
               RE: holy chit yer a nutbag commie(nm) - meatiger MU - 5/6 10:58:41
                    lol. The golden oldie of all liberal talking points (nm) - TigerFan92 STL - 5/6 11:21:16
          of course it is - Ferg MU - 5/6 10:00:34
               Ferg, did I mention Trump or even gvmt policy in my OP? - 90Tiger STL - 5/6 11:38:11
               Central planning always starts good - meatiger MU - 5/6 10:04:31
               MAGA commies only hate central planning when - Seagull MU - 5/6 10:03:42
                    you should reread the OP again - 90Tiger STL - 5/6 11:38:29
                         I'm not calling you a MAGA commie (nm) - Seagull MU - 5/6 11:40:31
                              Ferg replied to me, you replied to Ferg, there was - 90Tiger STL - 5/6 11:44:15
                                   Ferg replied to me (nm) - Seagull MU - 5/6 11:56:17
                                        my apologies, but still nothing about anyone but my op - 90Tiger STL - 5/6 12:17:02
                                             it was a general comment about most of the maga - Seagull MU - 5/6 12:47:31
                    yes, they complain about dems picking winners and - Ferg MU - 5/6 10:13:57
                         Let me be the first to welcome you to the politics board (nm) - MIZ45 MU - 5/6 10:23:25
                              Nice (nm) - TigerMatt STL - 5/6 10:36:35
                              😂(nm) - Panthera MU - 5/6 10:33:57
     Bronco told us the mfg jobs aren't coming back. He - hokie VT - 5/6 09:51:18
          He failed to mention it's due to dem socialism. - RHAYWORTH MU - 5/6 10:10:19
               Tim says you’re scared of his masculinity.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 5/6 10:38:00
                    Tampon Timmy says a lot of stupid things. - RHAYWORTH MU - 5/6 10:59:51
     I think heavy manufacturing items can come back - tigerinhogtown STL - 5/6 09:47:44
          "security interests" - meatiger MU - 5/6 09:51:02
               if you depend upon, lets say China, or Russia, or some - 90Tiger STL - 5/6 11:21:38
                    why would that other country need to be a long-standing - Seagull MU - 5/6 11:26:04
                         me? no. the US gvmt? sure? Let me rephrase that part - 90Tiger STL - 5/6 11:30:08
     Critical items should be domestically produced - mizzouSECedes STL - 5/6 09:43:40
          “We don’t have a relatively free capitalism economy.”(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 5/6 09:46:08
               sure we do, relative to the rest of the nations on earth (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 5/6 11:22:05
               lol ok (nm) - mizzouSECedes STL - 5/6 09:52:09
     Trump isn’t fixing the problem. He’s kicking the can - TigerMatt STL - 5/6 09:36:23
          Matt - this isn't about Trump. It's a geopolitical question - 90Tiger STL - 5/6 11:22:57
               It is about government policy - meatiger MU - 5/6 11:29:15
                    It's my thread, meat and I never referred to gvmt policy. P - 90Tiger STL - 5/6 11:31:40
                         Private companies have made those decisions - meatiger MU - 5/6 11:33:13
                              Oh, that's good to know, meat. So private companies - 90Tiger STL - 5/6 11:37:23
                                   RE: Oh, that's good to know, meat. So private companies - meatiger MU - 5/6 11:43:51
                                        Why do you think it's sustainable that china's population - 90Tiger STL - 5/6 11:47:51
                                             RE: Why do you think it's sustainable that china's population - meatiger MU - 5/6 11:51:42
                                                  that's another way of saying the current situtation ISN'T - 90Tiger STL - 5/6 12:18:00
                                                       RE: that's another way of saying the current situtation ISN'T - meatiger MU - 5/6 12:31:28
     Global economy now, and will only be increasingly so - FIJItiger MU - 5/6 09:16:18
          You didn't answer (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 5/6 11:23:11
     You used the word 'think' a couple of times there. - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/6 09:12:55
     On a massive scale, it will not - meatiger MU - 5/6 09:11:40
          You managed to not answer the simple questions posed at - 90Tiger STL - 5/6 11:23:51
     If this is the path to stop that into the future - kmawv8 MU - 5/6 09:11:33
          "this"? I never mentioned trump, gvmt policy or anything clo - 90Tiger STL - 5/6 11:24:48
               I read it in the context of tariffs since that's been the - kmawv8 MU - 5/6 11:37:11
                    wasn't thinking about tariffs in this post, was thinking muc - 90Tiger STL - 5/6 11:41:40
                         I'll check it out. To go deeper into being "sustainable", I - kmawv8 MU - 5/6 11:47:42
                         Is it creating issues - meatiger MU - 5/6 11:45:07
                              It has and will continue to create issues when - kmawv8 MU - 5/6 11:50:02
                    I think is very sustainable - meatiger MU - 5/6 11:41:08
                         I'm shocked you can believe this, but I shouldn't be (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 5/6 11:43:08
                              You are shocked - meatiger MU - 5/6 11:46:18
                                   good grief (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 5/6 11:48:39




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