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The problem is and always has been China

Posted on: May 6, 2025 at 10:30:06 CT
MU Diaspora MU
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We are 25 years into a trade war we really didn't know we are in, and are losing badly. And not just us but the entire West.
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Re: discussion below on Mfg "never coming back" and - 90Tiger STL - 5/6 09:01:33
     How would the US direct this end - haeffb MU - 5/6 13:47:54
     I don't think it is sustainable and I am very much in favor - JeffB MU - 5/6 11:27:44
          The first step is for people to reject consumerism. The - TigerMatt STL - 5/6 13:26:09
               Matt has been following Richard Wolff - marxist economist - 90Tiger STL - 5/6 16:21:04
               consumerism is the postcard of freedom and wealth. - Coors4bob STL - 5/6 14:59:09
               I disagree, despite the fact that I believe Americans have - JeffB MU - 5/6 14:27:15
          thank you for your answer, Jeff (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 5/6 11:34:48
     Food prices in the us are relatively low - El-ahrairah BAMA - 5/6 10:31:00
          RE: Food prices in the us are relatively low - meatiger MU - 5/6 10:35:39
               What is autorotation & how are unions preventing it? - JeffB MU - 5/6 11:24:37
                    sorry, typo for automation - meatiger MU - 5/6 11:26:14
                    and nobody really answered the question (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 5/6 11:25:34
     The problem is and always has been China - MU Diaspora MU - 5/6 10:30:06
          what problem? I asked questions nobody could simply - 90Tiger STL - 5/6 11:26:02
               US Manufacturing - MU Diaspora MU - 5/6 11:55:30
          Boomers gave all of that to China by choice - Columbian Gold MU - 5/6 11:11:30
               Yeah, but we didn't ahve to let them. - MU Diaspora MU - 5/6 12:00:22
                    you already did (nm) - Seagull MU - 5/6 12:48:49
          No, that's just your boogeyman that you use to duck - Seagull MU - 5/6 11:06:59
               Nope. - MU Diaspora MU - 5/6 11:59:41
                    that simply shows the damage you caused (nm) - Seagull MU - 5/6 12:48:37
          China isn’t the problem. The capitalists who value their - TigerMatt STL - 5/6 10:41:30
               Yes they are. Don't be a moron. - MU Diaspora MU - 5/6 12:00:52
                    that's not China's fault - Seagull MU - 5/6 12:48:21
               RE: China isn’t the problem. The capitalists who value their - TigerFan92 STL - 5/6 11:19:25
     globalization is the best long term solution - Seagull MU - 5/6 09:56:28
          that's intentionally vague (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 5/6 11:20:03
               what do you need specifics for? (nm) - Seagull MU - 5/6 11:24:35
                    RE: what do you need specifics for? (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 5/6 11:26:18
                         ok - Seagull MU - 5/6 11:31:06
                              'As long as we have the world's reserve currency' - JeffB MU - 5/6 14:18:36
                                   If the crux of the problem is a poor structuring of our - JeffB MU - 5/6 14:20:24
                                        That's been happening since COVID - Seagull MU - 5/6 14:34:24
                              Thanks for the answers. I'm not suggesting I support the US - 90Tiger STL - 5/6 11:34:26
          holy chit yer a nutbag commie(nm) - TigerFan92 STL - 5/6 10:35:41
               seagull is a raging nutbag of hate for jews, govt - RHAYWORTH MU - 5/6 10:59:04
               RE: holy chit yer a nutbag commie(nm) - meatiger MU - 5/6 10:58:41
                    lol. The golden oldie of all liberal talking points (nm) - TigerFan92 STL - 5/6 11:21:16
          of course it is - Ferg MU - 5/6 10:00:34
               Ferg, did I mention Trump or even gvmt policy in my OP? - 90Tiger STL - 5/6 11:38:11
               Central planning always starts good - meatiger MU - 5/6 10:04:31
               MAGA commies only hate central planning when - Seagull MU - 5/6 10:03:42
                    you should reread the OP again - 90Tiger STL - 5/6 11:38:29
                         I'm not calling you a MAGA commie (nm) - Seagull MU - 5/6 11:40:31
                              Ferg replied to me, you replied to Ferg, there was - 90Tiger STL - 5/6 11:44:15
                                   Ferg replied to me (nm) - Seagull MU - 5/6 11:56:17
                                        my apologies, but still nothing about anyone but my op - 90Tiger STL - 5/6 12:17:02
                                             it was a general comment about most of the maga - Seagull MU - 5/6 12:47:31
                    yes, they complain about dems picking winners and - Ferg MU - 5/6 10:13:57
                         Let me be the first to welcome you to the politics board (nm) - MIZ45 MU - 5/6 10:23:25
                              Nice (nm) - TigerMatt STL - 5/6 10:36:35
                              😂(nm) - Panthera MU - 5/6 10:33:57
     Bronco told us the mfg jobs aren't coming back. He - hokie VT - 5/6 09:51:18
          He failed to mention it's due to dem socialism. - RHAYWORTH MU - 5/6 10:10:19
               Tim says you’re scared of his masculinity.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 5/6 10:38:00
                    Tampon Timmy says a lot of stupid things. - RHAYWORTH MU - 5/6 10:59:51
     I think heavy manufacturing items can come back - tigerinhogtown STL - 5/6 09:47:44
          "security interests" - meatiger MU - 5/6 09:51:02
               if you depend upon, lets say China, or Russia, or some - 90Tiger STL - 5/6 11:21:38
                    why would that other country need to be a long-standing - Seagull MU - 5/6 11:26:04
                         me? no. the US gvmt? sure? Let me rephrase that part - 90Tiger STL - 5/6 11:30:08
     Critical items should be domestically produced - mizzouSECedes STL - 5/6 09:43:40
          “We don’t have a relatively free capitalism economy.”(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 5/6 09:46:08
               sure we do, relative to the rest of the nations on earth (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 5/6 11:22:05
               lol ok (nm) - mizzouSECedes STL - 5/6 09:52:09
     Trump isn’t fixing the problem. He’s kicking the can - TigerMatt STL - 5/6 09:36:23
          Matt - this isn't about Trump. It's a geopolitical question - 90Tiger STL - 5/6 11:22:57
               It is about government policy - meatiger MU - 5/6 11:29:15
                    It's my thread, meat and I never referred to gvmt policy. P - 90Tiger STL - 5/6 11:31:40
                         Private companies have made those decisions - meatiger MU - 5/6 11:33:13
                              Oh, that's good to know, meat. So private companies - 90Tiger STL - 5/6 11:37:23
                                   RE: Oh, that's good to know, meat. So private companies - meatiger MU - 5/6 11:43:51
                                        Why do you think it's sustainable that china's population - 90Tiger STL - 5/6 11:47:51
                                             RE: Why do you think it's sustainable that china's population - meatiger MU - 5/6 11:51:42
                                                  that's another way of saying the current situtation ISN'T - 90Tiger STL - 5/6 12:18:00
                                                       RE: that's another way of saying the current situtation ISN'T - meatiger MU - 5/6 12:31:28
     Global economy now, and will only be increasingly so - FIJItiger MU - 5/6 09:16:18
          You didn't answer (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 5/6 11:23:11
     You used the word 'think' a couple of times there. - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/6 09:12:55
     On a massive scale, it will not - meatiger MU - 5/6 09:11:40
          You managed to not answer the simple questions posed at - 90Tiger STL - 5/6 11:23:51
     If this is the path to stop that into the future - kmawv8 MU - 5/6 09:11:33
          "this"? I never mentioned trump, gvmt policy or anything clo - 90Tiger STL - 5/6 11:24:48
               I read it in the context of tariffs since that's been the - kmawv8 MU - 5/6 11:37:11
                    wasn't thinking about tariffs in this post, was thinking muc - 90Tiger STL - 5/6 11:41:40
                         I'll check it out. To go deeper into being "sustainable", I - kmawv8 MU - 5/6 11:47:42
                         Is it creating issues - meatiger MU - 5/6 11:45:07
                              It has and will continue to create issues when - kmawv8 MU - 5/6 11:50:02
                    I think is very sustainable - meatiger MU - 5/6 11:41:08
                         I'm shocked you can believe this, but I shouldn't be (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 5/6 11:43:08
                              You are shocked - meatiger MU - 5/6 11:46:18
                                   good grief (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 5/6 11:48:39




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