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7 years doesn't change what actually happened

Posted on: August 19, 2022 at 10:43:04 CT
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Though I never cut off TSF or renewing season tix, there no reason to try to change history. I'm not going to rehash how Ivey painted GP into a corner, and brought to an end the era of our most successful coach---but if one tries to establish the idea that our succession plan just fell into place during that year, you're crazy.
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Are there still rubes in our fan base who blame MU for - zounami MU - 8/19 06:59:02
     Poorly handled by poor leaders - MoArk MU - 8/19 16:00:33
          Wrong place, wrong time. It was spillover from Ferguson - zounami MU - 8/20 02:13:47
     MU was humiliated and damaged nationally as only we could - Beakerbasher KC - 8/19 14:23:44
          no, everyone outside of our fan base forgot about it within - zounami MU - 8/20 02:09:59
     way to extend the olive branch and understand the other side - deputyfife MU - 8/19 12:06:26
     RE: Are there still rubes in our fan base who blame MU for - bstiger MU - 8/19 11:05:02
          that's what Ohio state did. welcomed the students to protest - deputyfife MU - 8/19 12:02:08
               apples & oranges.... The football team wasn't involved... - zounami MU - 8/19 12:44:55
          As an MU degree holder, I'm glad they didn't take the - zounami MU - 8/19 11:21:22
               Why, what did the players (who got used) get out of it? - Tigerfish MU - 8/19 14:02:09
     As someone that lives out of state and amongst other - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 8/19 10:33:36
          That's 100% correct. I can attest to that as well. (nm) - zounami MU - 8/19 10:35:33
               LOL. Yes, 7 years later its a blip elsewhere - Tigerfish MU - 8/19 10:37:10
                    it was a blip everywhere else within 3 days... - zounami MU - 8/19 10:40:35
                    I do wonder if Mizzou had stayed winning - meatiger MU - 8/19 10:39:37
     There are still non-idiots who do, yes - Tigerfish MU - 8/19 10:30:48
          it is impossible to not be an idiot and still think that way - MizzouAstro MU - 8/19 10:37:43
               7 years doesn't change what actually happened - Tigerfish MU - 8/19 10:43:04
               correct (nm) - zounami MU - 8/19 10:41:22
     Note that many are boomers - meatiger MU - 8/19 10:20:23
          Generalization, but makes sense because of who raised - DevilsAdvocate KC - 8/19 10:25:46
               the whole generational thing - meatiger MU - 8/19 10:34:24
     blame or upset, little - meatiger MU - 8/19 09:51:42
          hair of the dog this morning?(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 8/19 09:56:31
          huh?... no offense but that's kind of incoherent (nm) - zounami MU - 8/19 09:54:35
               RE: huh?... no offense but that's kind of incoherent (nm) - meatiger MU - 8/19 10:00:18
                    ok, I follow now... thanks for clarifying (nm) - zounami MU - 8/19 10:02:35
                         RE: ok, I follow now... thanks for clarifying (nm) - meatiger MU - 8/19 10:05:56
     Pinkel should have nipped it before it started, nm - MU-TULSA MU - 8/19 09:15:56
          ^^case in point^^ - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 8/19 09:19:09
               you are extremely short sighted but that is what - TigerFan92 STL - 8/19 10:15:59
                    who did GP blame? - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 8/19 11:23:16
                    what would you have done, and what do you think the - zounami MU - 8/19 10:19:44
                         I would have told the players they made commitments, and - deputyfife MU - 8/19 12:04:23
                              And what do you think their response would have been? (nm) - zounami MU - 8/19 12:46:04
                                   less damaging than what happened - deputyfife MU - 8/19 22:51:12
                                        Be more specific. (nm) - zounami MU - 8/20 02:06:47
                         coming up on an hour… - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 8/19 11:06:52
                              Imagine if you had a job or did your job. You may not - TigerFan92 STL - 8/19 12:41:36
               yeah, I must say these replies are discouraging.... - zounami MU - 8/19 09:37:47
     MU basically admitted its white student body is racist - Columbian Gold MU - 8/19 09:12:39
          "basically".... i.e. kinda sorta... i.e. not really.... - zounami MU - 8/19 09:33:30
               I don't know what they should have done - Columbian Gold MU - 8/19 10:05:15
                    people have a higher opinion of MU than you seem to - zounami MU - 8/19 10:08:44
                         No clue what that means. Enrollment numbers are from NYT - Columbian Gold MU - 8/19 10:28:44
                              it means MU has a better reputation than you realize (nm) - zounami MU - 8/19 10:29:54
                                   ...or, better than you want to acknowledge (nm) - zounami MU - 8/19 10:30:43
                                        With who? What are you talking about? (nm) - Columbian Gold MU - 8/19 10:32:53
                                             Society - Genco98 MU - 8/19 16:29:06
                                             society (nm) - zounami MU - 8/19 10:34:50
     I blame Mizzou more for mediocre football than - Diamond Dave MU - 8/19 09:04:23
          This ^^^^ (nm) - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 8/19 10:23:19
     Most of the politics board - Rabbit Test MU - 8/19 08:50:16
          But they aren't season holders anymore - Genco98 MU - 8/19 10:02:59
          so they're "racist" for being upset with the university?(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 8/19 09:51:35
               I didn't follow his point either. I think he's just trolling - zounami MU - 8/19 09:53:49
                    NEVER pass up a chance to accuse someone of racism - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 8/19 09:55:23
     Unfortunately, yes(nm) - DevilsAdvocate KC - 8/19 08:22:43
     RE: Are there still rubes in our fan base who blame MU for - SEMO_Hillbilly UMKC - 8/19 08:08:20
     I think everyone who is/was a long-time season ticket - Genco98 MU - 8/19 07:55:48
          lol, everyone is "obsessed" and "arrogant"... btw, I didn't - zounami MU - 8/19 07:57:26
               Again your dwelling on a random post - Genco98 MU - 8/19 08:03:42
     the easiest decisions to make - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 8/19 07:47:18
          Shoud have been handled the way Ohio State did - OntheMark MU - 8/19 09:48:39
               apples & oranges.... The football team wasn't involved... - zounami MU - 8/19 09:50:48
          Being a good leader isn't easy. Pinkel failed period(nm) - TigerFan92 STL - 8/19 08:22:44
               Pinkel made the only move he could that wouldn't nuke - doughboy MU - 8/19 09:07:06
                    You are correct on all accounts. (nm) - go tigers MU - 8/19 19:23:57
                    Being a leader requires developing a culture, not just makin - TigerFan92 STL - 8/19 10:08:00
                         is your grudge against MU, or the former employees - zounami MU - 8/19 10:13:50
                              Tigerfan92 is my example of the boomer just above - meatiger MU - 8/19 10:53:22
                                   Hey ignorant dooshbag not a boomer and the exact opposite - TigerFan92 STL - 8/19 12:40:19
                              No grudge. But they messed up bad prior to that day - TigerFan92 STL - 8/19 10:19:30
                                   How did they "mess up" prior to that? Did they not cater to - zounami MU - 8/19 10:25:32
                                        Pinkel and staff did not have the kind of relationship with - TigerFan92 STL - 8/19 12:38:32
                    That's a good point. The football team probably had good - zounami MU - 8/19 09:30:01
                         imagine trying to recruit another black athlete - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 8/19 09:35:12
                              You nailed it above... - zounami MU - 8/19 09:38:32
                    how did Loftin fail, exactly?(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 8/19 09:18:14
                         Loftin was a complete clown - MizzouAstro MU - 8/19 10:32:33
                         I'd like to know that as well. (nm) - zounami MU - 8/19 09:22:18
                              Loftin put his head in the sand and ignored the situation - doughboy MU - 8/19 09:42:08
                                   "all he wanted to do was ride out his five years and - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 8/19 09:49:30
                                        I'll give you the retirement comment - doughboy MU - 8/19 09:57:01
                                             fair enough(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 8/19 09:57:41
                                   "Have a sitdown with protesters in front of cameras"... - zounami MU - 8/19 09:47:08
                                        Then leave out the cameras - doughboy MU - 8/19 09:52:46
                                             I do agree however that they should have been more - zounami MU - 8/19 10:06:55
                                                  There was no winning once it escalated to the football team - doughboy MU - 8/19 10:22:35
                                                       ok, we agree on that (nm) - zounami MU - 8/19 10:28:53
                                             "and shoot them down one by one".. lol, you can't be serious - zounami MU - 8/19 09:58:50
                                        hindsight is undefeated(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 8/19 09:50:04
          There is ground in between giving in and - alwaysright MU - 8/19 07:54:35
               Still not worth dwelling on today - DevilsAdvocate KC - 8/19 08:24:31
                    I think the people I've talked to it's more they are just - Genco98 MU - 8/19 08:30:11
                         If they stopped talking about it - DevilsAdvocate KC - 8/19 08:59:09
                              I am not sure I follow that post - Genco98 MU - 8/19 09:33:54
                                   Simply saying people tend not to practice what they preach - DevilsAdvocate KC - 8/19 10:18:19
                                        Well if they haven't been season ticket holders for - Genco98 MU - 8/19 10:38:36
                                             I agree with that. (nm) - DevilsAdvocate KC - 8/19 11:28:21
                                                  Thank you - yes the discussion was about ticket sales - Genco98 MU - 8/19 14:59:31
                                        It is not healthy - DevilsAdvocate KC - 8/19 10:18:57
                                             agreed (nm) - zounami MU - 8/19 10:28:30
                                   I get what he's saying... it's not that complicated. (nm) - zounami MU - 8/19 09:38:11
                                        What is he talking about then? - Genco98 MU - 8/19 09:53:54
               btw, this reply makes the think there really are still some - zounami MU - 8/19 07:59:54
                    Who was the victim? - GODZILLA MU - 8/19 08:23:14
                         The University (nm) - zounami MU - 8/19 09:19:57
                              Enrollment at Mizzou was 35,448 in the fall of 2015 - SSN 780 MU - 8/19 12:09:51
                              The University - meatiger MU - 8/19 10:06:56
                                   even if that's true, the university is more than just a few - zounami MU - 8/19 10:10:39
                                        fair - meatiger MU - 8/19 10:35:34
               What would you have done, if you were MU's chancellor? (nm) - zounami MU - 8/19 07:56:09
                    should have just done more at the time and preceding - meatiger MU - 8/19 09:54:47
                    That’s different. The chancellor should have - alwaysright MU - 8/19 08:34:01
                         Be more specific. What would "play hardball" entail? (nm) - zounami MU - 8/19 09:20:30
          Exactly. It was an unprecedented, no-win situation... - zounami MU - 8/19 07:50:39




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