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phantom "budget cuts" have not kept martin from hiring
Posted on: August 16, 2021 at 10:06:56 CT
phrejd
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anyone. stop being silly.
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A look at MU’s support staff
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FIJItiger
MU
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8/16 08:15:08
What’s shameful is your analysis
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tigerden
MU
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8/16 12:53:45
Apologies you found it offensive, I was intending to
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FIJItiger
MU
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8/16 14:31:12
Your apology needs to go to everyone reading your nonsense
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tigerden
MU
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8/16 16:21:31
Even if you accept Wu-T's assertion that program funding is
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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8/16 09:58:24
It's everyone's fault BUT CM, of course(nm)
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LamarFrazier
MU
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8/16 15:11:56
That is a fair point. While he can't control it, he
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GeorgiaTiger76
MU
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8/16 12:47:08
Lol you think CM determines AD budget allocation?
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zoomer
99
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8/16 10:47:00
lol you don't think the HC of the men's bb program has any
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phrejd
MU
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8/16 11:07:59
Funding is a ruse to change narrative from product/direction
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Sigma
MU
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8/16 10:52:13
Lack of funding is the new version of
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FIJItiger
MU
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8/16 11:16:18
LoL..that's a good one.
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Sigma
MU
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8/16 11:44:52
No KA failed on his own.
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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8/16 11:35:27
And the first resource that needs to be added is a competent
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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8/16 11:38:41
It’s funny how many posters here don’t think
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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8/16 11:41:01
He has averaged lower half finishes for four years, he is
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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8/16 11:49:43
I get it you think he should have taken Mizzou
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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8/16 12:05:22
Have you once heard me talk about final fours or
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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8/16 13:16:30
this might help
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phrejd
MU
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8/16 12:08:09
solid only by comparison to KA honestly. he needs
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TigerA
MU
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8/16 11:37:08
Wu-T only compares CM to KA. There is a good reason for
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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8/16 11:42:20
Cuonzo staying doesn’t help me any
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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8/16 11:45:36
Bullshít, most of CM's limiting factors are internal.
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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8/16 11:53:46
Drink is proof that investment
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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8/16 12:06:20
[rolls eyes] (nm)
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phrejd
MU
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8/16 12:09:09
It is hard to take this guy seriously.(nm)
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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8/16 13:17:09
They are 100% equivalent excuses, there is no
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FIJItiger
MU
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8/16 11:36:24
I get it you guys think the solution is to continue
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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8/16 11:40:12
And you think the solution is to continue on with a
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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8/16 11:56:40
Your a coach? And believe Hamilton isn’t a good coach (nm)
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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8/16 12:09:24
is that the criteria now? you have to be a coach to be able
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phrejd
MU
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8/16 12:19:18
He says he’s a coach and can’t tell (nm)
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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8/16 13:10:51
In this specific case, it is step one in rebuilding MU bb
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FIJItiger
MU
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8/16 11:54:16
In CBB the head coach is the only variable that matters.
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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8/16 12:01:43
This isn’t true. Quin is the best coach to come through
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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8/16 12:08:25
Seriously? Quin is a good coach now, he was not mature
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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8/16 13:13:03
The AD should have helped keep a couple
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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8/16 13:16:28
You are seriously dumb as fück! Yes, he was an immature
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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8/16 13:24:52
So a mentor on staff doesn’t help?
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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8/16 13:28:32
A guy getting paid millions of dollars a year to lead a
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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8/16 13:45:56
wait are we waiting for cuonzo to mature
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phrejd
MU
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8/16 13:20:53
He has compared him to Leonard Hamilton multiple times.
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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8/16 13:29:24
The only Hamilton comp that’s been made was that
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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8/16 13:54:15
lol you bounce around to so many silly topics
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phrejd
MU
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8/16 12:16:24
Quin was below .500 his last 2 seasons
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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8/16 12:21:17
cuonzo has already had 2 sub .500 seasons and is working
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phrejd
MU
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8/16 12:31:18
When is the last time
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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8/16 12:53:04
Cuonzo has yet to start or end any season at MU ranked (nm)
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FIJItiger
MU
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8/16 13:04:38
yeah i'm not sure what point he's trying to make with this
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phrejd
MU
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8/16 13:19:48
What’s the goal for Mizzou hoops?
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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8/16 13:52:36
wait NOW you want a coach who can consistently reach the
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phrejd
MU
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8/16 14:04:05
No, reading shouldn’t be that hard.
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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8/16 14:08:54
lol. [rolls eyes again] (nm)
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phrejd
MU
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8/16 14:10:40
He was able to negotiate a top three salary for himself but
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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8/16 10:51:53
He has been successful
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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8/16 10:57:04
He is 10 games under .500 in SEC play, and virtually certain
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FIJItiger
MU
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8/16 11:19:12
go ahead and list them off for us (nm)
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phrejd
MU
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8/16 11:08:41
Taking away Wu's angle. He's got more B.S. in his bag.
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Sigma
MU
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8/16 09:52:10
RE: A look at MU’s support staff
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Bobber
MU
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8/16 09:44:55
i'd be willing to bet she's already getting asked what she's
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phrejd
MU
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8/16 10:13:54
In my opinion, we may be striving for average but
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FIJItiger
MU
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8/16 10:13:33
"But he needs more money!!!!!1111" - wutang (nm)
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Maty Football
KC
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8/16 09:25:37
Did your inside source tell you that's what is needed? (nm)
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Cosmo
MU
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8/16 11:47:17
"no, no, his assistants need more money!!!" -also wutang (nm)
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phrejd
MU
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8/16 09:58:38
"i mean they're fine he just needs more assistants" - wutang
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phrejd
MU
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8/16 09:59:50
"err i mean he needs to hire an analytics company" - wutang(nm)
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phrejd
MU
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8/16 10:00:36
"wait, no, i mean budget cuts makes recruiting hard" -wutang
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phrejd
MU
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8/16 10:01:51
"no, covid! covid made recruiting impossible!" still wutang(nm)
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phrejd
MU
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8/16 10:02:37
"plus kim anderson, amarite? i mean that guy!" -wutang (nm)
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phrejd
MU
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8/16 10:03:27
"and with 30 yrs of kim anderson, i mean come on!" -wutang(nm)
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phrejd
MU
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8/16 10:04:16
"if only we paid more. what do you expect?" -again wutang (nm)
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phrejd
MU
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8/16 10:05:04
"i mean look at fan support! where are the fans?" - wutang (nm)
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phrejd
MU
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8/16 10:10:01
"how can a losing coach expect to build fan support?"-wutang
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phrejd
MU
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8/16 10:11:44
This is my point exactly. Has CM ever been denied...
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Lerxst
MU
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8/16 09:04:28
well he hired one guy form UMKC, one from Oakland,
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phrejd
MU
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8/16 10:34:32
Sounds more like CM has a good ole boy squad instead
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MU-TULSA
MU
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8/16 09:01:57
Why does TB always assume spending
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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8/16 09:40:03
Given more money, Martin would not make any changes to
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alwaysright
MU
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8/16 10:11:59
How dumb do you have to be to believe that (nm)
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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8/16 10:13:36
Would be nice to be able to run an experiment and see
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MU-TULSA
MU
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8/16 11:19:45
That’s also dumb.
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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8/16 11:43:59
So you're saying Kim English started at a higher salary than
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MU-TULSA
MU
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8/16 13:52:46
English at Tennessee made more than any Mizzou assistant
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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8/16 13:55:42
funny. the guy does well, gets paid more, and moves up.
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phrejd
MU
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8/16 14:06:16
More money and you can hire upgrades (nm)
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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8/16 14:09:42
you should tell cuonzo that. apparently he doesn't agree (nm)
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phrejd
MU
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8/16 14:13:04
Don’t have to believe it. It’s already been demonstrated
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alwaysright
MU
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8/16 10:58:28
RE: How dumb do you have to be to believe that (nm)
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FIJItiger
MU
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8/16 10:33:01
^^there you go^^. Hired his best friend instead of the best(nm)
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Lerxst
MU
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8/16 11:29:29
what leads you to think differently? (nm)
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phrejd
MU
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8/16 10:29:17
He didn’t bring any of his assistants from Cal
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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8/16 10:47:18
His main assistant at Cal remained there to become head
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FIJItiger
MU
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8/16 11:22:59
you sure about that?
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phrejd
MU
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8/16 11:00:47
Wasn’t an assistant at Cal or originally at Mizzou (nm)
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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8/16 11:02:23
lol. ok i see we're playing games now.
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phrejd
MU
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8/16 11:06:51
Maybe it’s a combination on not having
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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8/16 11:37:09
Obviously this isn't current, from the time of his hire
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FIJItiger
MU
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8/16 11:41:51
i think most competent head coaches understand how to build
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phrejd
MU
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8/16 09:51:47
First of all can you tell us for sure that Cuonzo would like
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sprintcar
STL
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8/16 09:48:54
Can you prove he hasn’t
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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8/16 09:55:44
Lol. How would I prove that? You're the one with all the
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sprintcar
STL
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8/16 10:07:58
We will find out with DRF in charge
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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8/16 10:15:19
who has cuonzo tried to hire? (nm)
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phrejd
MU
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8/16 10:21:46
Who has he had the money to hire?
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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8/16 10:49:37
he hired his entire staff. what are you talking about?
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phrejd
MU
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8/16 11:02:09
you won't get anywhere here. good try though. (nm)
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phrejd
MU
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8/16 10:09:05
Oh he'll have something. He may have overtaken Fiji in that
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sprintcar
STL
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8/16 10:15:08
difference is he'll make it up. at least fiji shows his work
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phrejd
MU
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8/16 10:20:56
or you'd find they have a HC who understand how to build a
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phrejd
MU
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8/16 09:57:33
I am sure that’s you (nm)
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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8/16 10:06:04
i think it's pretty much any qualified HC candidate.
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phrejd
MU
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8/16 10:07:57
Mizzou has a quality coach
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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8/16 10:12:28
no, TB simply expects him to build a coaching staff,
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phrejd
MU
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8/16 10:17:35
Exactly. We're not spending a lot because the existing...
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Lerxst
MU
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8/16 09:51:20
Cuonzo’s pay is fine
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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8/16 09:57:11
that's not true (nm)
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phrejd
MU
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8/16 09:58:02
Who replaced Porter? (nm)
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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8/16 10:05:30
phantom "budget cuts" have not kept martin from hiring
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phrejd
MU
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8/16 10:06:56
Mizzou cut its AD budget by 18 million
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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8/16 10:13:04
how many basketball coaches were lost?
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phrejd
MU
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8/16 10:18:57
Didn’t replace Porter
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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8/16 10:44:52
yes he did. he replaced him with the same guy he dragged
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phrejd
MU
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8/16 11:03:15
No that guy was already on staff
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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8/16 11:47:45
lol. ok (nm)
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phrejd
MU
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8/16 11:59:43
I look forward to the circular arguments that follow this.
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phrejd
MU
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8/16 08:56:42
I cant wait to read the phrivals article about it(nm)
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NWMizzouFan
NWMSU
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8/16 09:01:25
Platinum members already have (nm)
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phrejd
MU
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8/16 09:04:27