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Look at other schools that had similar rebuilds

Posted on: February 24, 2021 at 14:25:43 CT
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How did they do in the first 4 seasons?

You won’t find any that were significantly better than making 2 of 4 tournaments.

Your expectations are off. Or you have a short memory.
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"We're excited about the future" - Ace AU - 2/24 12:18:54
     What a joke-no MU fan I know would say that 4 hoops at least - Beakerbasher KC - 2/24 15:26:28
          probably because he doesn't care about winning.(nm) - SuperTone MU - 2/24 15:49:19
     This is the season we've been building toward for 4 yrs?* - pinkman MU - 2/24 13:38:49
          Cuonzo isn't going to make it at MU - FIJItiger MU - 2/24 14:25:46
               What would qualify as your criteria of success for this - longtimereader MU - 2/24 15:00:44
                    Return to 1970-1995 levels (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 2/24 15:03:52
                         You do realize it built up to that with 67-70 right?(nm) - longtimereader MU - 2/24 15:13:51
                              Yup. As I said heading into this year I thought that was - FIJItiger MU - 2/24 15:16:12
                                   It is imposssible and fruitless to contend with someone's - longtimereader MU - 2/24 15:30:33
                                        Agree with that response. My opinion is at this point - FIJItiger MU - 2/24 15:46:14
                                   Well you were emphatic about Brad Underwood failing at UI - Sigma MU - 2/24 15:22:08
                                        2 games under .500 in B1G play, no NCAA tournaments(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 2/24 15:23:15
                                             Last year was a lock & this year he's fighting for 1st place - Sigma MU - 2/24 15:26:32
                                                  I think I will still be right, but I see them play 1 game a - FIJItiger MU - 2/24 15:28:35
               Not sure. They said that about John Beilen at Michigan - Sigma MU - 2/24 14:51:09
                    I am. I wasn't sure before this year - FIJItiger MU - 2/24 14:58:39
                         I think TB has overestimated the talent on this team. - Sigma MU - 2/24 15:19:20
                              No, they are sufficiently talented - FIJItiger MU - 2/24 15:22:20
                                   Llimitations athletically were exposed last night. Plodders - Sigma MU - 2/24 15:25:04
                                        Next year Pickett and Watson will be our more athletic - FIJItiger MU - 2/24 15:29:36
                                             No they wont. - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/24 18:32:26
               Maybe but if the gutless sheep we call fans would - GA Tiger MU - 2/24 14:50:11
                    FYI, nobody is going to games due to Covid (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 2/24 14:57:17
                         Good point. Maybe next year.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 2/24 18:00:11
          No. - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/24 13:44:04
               I just mentioned this earlier this week. - longtimereader MU - 2/24 15:07:09
               If Cuonzo stays maybe it could become a Pinkel situation - Eggs MU - 2/24 14:47:33
                    Completely agree - Genco98 MU - 2/24 15:19:15
               We haven't made it yet - semotiger83 MU - 2/24 14:17:35
                    Mizzou has been better than an 8 seed - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/24 14:21:02
                         you make it sound expecting more than 50% of the time - SuperTone MU - 2/24 14:23:04
                              Look at other schools that had similar rebuilds - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/24 14:25:43
                                   I'd be fine with 2 of 4 at this point if there was hope for - SuperTone MU - 2/24 14:32:06
                                        What do you mean there’s not hope for the future? - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/24 14:38:00
                                             does not knowing give you higher expectations for next - SuperTone MU - 2/24 14:40:49
                                                  It means until after is see the roster to start any - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/24 14:50:54
                                                       arky has a much better coach.(nm) - SuperTone MU - 2/24 15:13:48
                                                            Maybe. So far his conference win percentage - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/24 15:16:33
                                                                 i wonder why the season is falling apart so quickly - SuperTone MU - 2/24 15:18:43
                                                                      Well Tilmon didn’t play in 2 of those games - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/24 15:39:27
                    I wonder if we can set a record for most Q1 wins w/out - SuperTone MU - 2/24 14:18:54
                         RE: I wonder if we can set a record for most Q1 wins w/out - semotiger83 MU - 2/24 14:22:20
               no it doesn't. 2 tournaments in 4 years - SuperTone MU - 2/24 14:14:38
                    That is insanity - Gavin Citrus MU - 2/24 14:19:15
                         how is that insanity? almost all coaches are going to get - SuperTone MU - 2/24 14:20:54
                              We're the 3rd-cheapest program in the SEC - zoomer 99 - 2/24 14:22:38
                                   I expect us to hire and fire coaches in search of winning - SuperTone MU - 2/24 14:24:01
                                        Then we'll get the cheapest HC or the cheapest staff - zoomer 99 - 2/24 14:26:03
                                             fine with me as long as we keep trying to get better.(nm) - SuperTone MU - 2/24 14:32:57
                    Then every you try to hire is going to fail - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/24 14:15:58
                         well yes. are you new to college basketball? - SuperTone MU - 2/24 14:18:17
                              Most coaches do get fired - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/24 14:22:43
                                   They get fired for failing to meet unrealistic expectations - SuperTone MU - 2/24 14:25:29
                                        Not near as often. - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/24 14:27:08
                                             an extension has to happen to fire CM and it has - SuperTone MU - 2/24 14:33:38
               If season tickets sales were up, I would agree, but they are - MU-TULSA MU - 2/24 14:07:00
                    That guarantees you won’t get any of your top - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/24 14:12:24
                    Abysmal recruiting is why fans are discouraged. The future - zounami MU - 2/24 14:10:21
                         But CM said he was very excited about the class and they - Diamond Dave MU - 2/24 14:13:31
                              I posted an article from 247 - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/24 14:14:53
                         The majority of ticket buying fans - Gavin Citrus MU - 2/24 14:13:28
     Basketball just isn't a priority for the AD unfortunately - zoomer 99 - 2/24 13:17:23
          Tigerboard has noticeably less posts these days - jlbomega MU - 2/24 13:24:47
               Not sure that is basketball related - FIJItiger MU - 2/24 14:30:12
               i dont know anyone who watches the full 40min anymore - SuperTone MU - 2/24 14:13:52
               If the buyout remains the same, what difference would an - zounami MU - 2/24 13:28:09
                    College coaching extensions serve one purpose - MIZtigerZOU MU - 2/24 13:46:28
          Wrong. The money is there... - zounami MU - 2/24 13:19:54
               What I'd like to see is expenses minus conference travel - doughboy MU - 2/24 13:38:39
                    good points (nm) - zoomer 99 - 2/24 13:59:26
                         agreed (nm) - zounami MU - 2/24 14:08:52
               you're right, I noticed UNC has about the same revenue as MU - zoomer 99 - 2/24 13:22:25
                    It's mind-boggling, but that's how incompetent our AD is. (nm) - zounami MU - 2/24 13:24:15
               Note: replace "FB" with "FB and BB" in that post. (nm) - zounami MU - 2/24 13:21:52
     It's Sterk's version of the vote of confindence - Sigma MU - 2/24 13:13:10
     Mizzou basketball is dead - Maty Football KC - 2/24 12:57:50
          They call it nostalgia - Gavin Citrus MU - 2/24 14:15:03
     If it wasnt for transfers he wouldnt have a program at all - MU-TULSA MU - 2/24 12:54:01
          Transfers have been a key part of Mizzou’s recruiting - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/24 13:03:17
     Give me an f'ing break. One sign of a good coach is when... - Deputy Dawg MU - 2/24 12:52:52
          This team is built around guard play and JT. When the - Erwin Fletcher STL - 2/24 13:46:14
          Why cant you have a good guy and good coach, Sterk is - MU-TULSA MU - 2/24 13:10:10
               HC's aren't paid 7-figure salaries to be a "nice guy"... - zounami MU - 2/24 13:15:24
          Agreed. Sterk has been a failure... - zounami MU - 2/24 13:00:53
               In the real world, if anyone had done 1/2 those things at - MU-TULSA MU - 2/24 13:11:25
                    correct (nm) - zounami MU - 2/24 13:15:46
          No Mizzou coach has been successful at recruiting - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/24 12:56:29
               They did address it they gave Cuonzo a 7 year 21 million - Missiurifarmboy MU - 2/24 13:24:50
                    And if he wins maybe he starts getting those guys - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/24 13:37:48
               RE: No Mizzou coach has been successful at recruiting - KC rules MU - 2/24 13:05:17
                    Not anymore. They are striking out in K.C also - Sigma MU - 2/24 13:12:12
               Yes, it's called hiring top-notch coaches. We've had many - zounami MU - 2/24 13:04:20
                    Howland? He has been worse at MSU - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/24 13:21:29
                         Isn't he undefeated against CM?... Regardless, it's tough to - zounami MU - 2/24 13:23:27
                              Mizzou has 4 more tournaments appearances in the last - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/24 13:35:45
                    Calipari rejected Mizzou - doughboy MU - 2/24 13:16:04
                         No, that's revisionist history. (nm) - zounami MU - 2/24 13:16:41
                              What part?(nm) - doughboy MU - 2/24 13:18:27
                                   The part about Calipari. (nm) - zounami MU - 2/24 13:21:02
                    RE: Yes, it's called hiring top-notch coaches. We've had many - KC rules MU - 2/24 13:07:18
                         That's what they said about Rick Barnes. (nm) - zounami MU - 2/24 13:08:28
     Amid a pandemic & budget shortfall, the optics of giving an - zounami MU - 2/24 12:50:29
          I just don't get it - Genco98 MU - 2/24 12:55:25
               Correct, but 'Zo wants more than the $3 mil/yr he's getting. - zounami MU - 2/24 13:02:01
          Also, most of those statements by Sterk are false... - zounami MU - 2/24 12:53:51
               Exactly, I would tell him you have a decent contract, if you - MU-TULSA MU - 2/24 13:14:46
     if an extension includes drastically reduced buyout - SuperTone MU - 2/24 12:44:20
          Most likely is an 2-3 year extension - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/24 13:26:20
               Two questions: (1) Why isn't 4 years enough? (2) What's the - zounami MU - 2/24 13:29:51
                    That’s how college sports works - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/24 13:40:59
                         its because recruits want to "think" the coach - SuperTone MU - 2/24 14:11:41
                              Then you need to offer the extension now (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/24 14:13:37
                                   I wouldn't. I would just let him fail. Boosters should - SuperTone MU - 2/24 14:19:59
                                        Good luck hiring the next guy if that’s what you do (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/24 14:23:45
                                             UT did that and was able to hire Barnes so.... - SuperTone MU - 2/24 14:34:55
                                                  They failed hard in between CM and RB - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/24 14:40:03
                                                       and also have an SEC title under their belt.(nm) - SuperTone MU - 2/24 14:41:58
          OK, give him a 5 year extension with a 250k buyout and - MU-TULSA MU - 2/24 13:16:14




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