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Howland? He has been worse at MSU
Posted on: February 24, 2021 at 13:21:29 CT
wu-tangtiger
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"We're excited about the future"
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Ace
AU
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2/24 12:18:54
What a joke-no MU fan I know would say that 4 hoops at least
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Beakerbasher
KC
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2/24 15:26:28
probably because he doesn't care about winning.(nm)
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SuperTone
MU
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2/24 15:49:19
This is the season we've been building toward for 4 yrs?*
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pinkman
MU
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2/24 13:38:49
Cuonzo isn't going to make it at MU
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FIJItiger
MU
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2/24 14:25:46
What would qualify as your criteria of success for this
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longtimereader
MU
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2/24 15:00:44
Return to 1970-1995 levels (nm)
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FIJItiger
MU
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2/24 15:03:52
You do realize it built up to that with 67-70 right?(nm)
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longtimereader
MU
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2/24 15:13:51
Yup. As I said heading into this year I thought that was
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FIJItiger
MU
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2/24 15:16:12
It is imposssible and fruitless to contend with someone's
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longtimereader
MU
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2/24 15:30:33
Agree with that response. My opinion is at this point
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FIJItiger
MU
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2/24 15:46:14
Well you were emphatic about Brad Underwood failing at UI
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Sigma
MU
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2/24 15:22:08
2 games under .500 in B1G play, no NCAA tournaments(nm)
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FIJItiger
MU
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2/24 15:23:15
Last year was a lock & this year he's fighting for 1st place
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Sigma
MU
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2/24 15:26:32
I think I will still be right, but I see them play 1 game a
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FIJItiger
MU
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2/24 15:28:35
Not sure. They said that about John Beilen at Michigan
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Sigma
MU
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2/24 14:51:09
I am. I wasn't sure before this year
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FIJItiger
MU
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2/24 14:58:39
I think TB has overestimated the talent on this team.
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Sigma
MU
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2/24 15:19:20
No, they are sufficiently talented
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FIJItiger
MU
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2/24 15:22:20
Llimitations athletically were exposed last night. Plodders
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Sigma
MU
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2/24 15:25:04
Next year Pickett and Watson will be our more athletic
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FIJItiger
MU
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2/24 15:29:36
No they wont.
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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2/24 18:32:26
Maybe but if the gutless sheep we call fans would
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GA Tiger
MU
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2/24 14:50:11
FYI, nobody is going to games due to Covid (nm)
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FIJItiger
MU
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2/24 14:57:17
Good point. Maybe next year.(nm)
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GA Tiger
MU
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2/24 18:00:11
No.
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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2/24 13:44:04
I just mentioned this earlier this week.
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longtimereader
MU
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2/24 15:07:09
If Cuonzo stays maybe it could become a Pinkel situation
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Eggs
MU
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2/24 14:47:33
Completely agree
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Genco98
MU
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2/24 15:19:15
We haven't made it yet
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semotiger83
MU
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2/24 14:17:35
Mizzou has been better than an 8 seed
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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2/24 14:21:02
you make it sound expecting more than 50% of the time
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SuperTone
MU
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2/24 14:23:04
Look at other schools that had similar rebuilds
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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2/24 14:25:43
I'd be fine with 2 of 4 at this point if there was hope for
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SuperTone
MU
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2/24 14:32:06
What do you mean there’s not hope for the future?
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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2/24 14:38:00
does not knowing give you higher expectations for next
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SuperTone
MU
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2/24 14:40:49
It means until after is see the roster to start any
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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2/24 14:50:54
arky has a much better coach.(nm)
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SuperTone
MU
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2/24 15:13:48
Maybe. So far his conference win percentage
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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2/24 15:16:33
i wonder why the season is falling apart so quickly
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SuperTone
MU
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2/24 15:18:43
Well Tilmon didn’t play in 2 of those games
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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2/24 15:39:27
I wonder if we can set a record for most Q1 wins w/out
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SuperTone
MU
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2/24 14:18:54
RE: I wonder if we can set a record for most Q1 wins w/out
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semotiger83
MU
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2/24 14:22:20
no it doesn't. 2 tournaments in 4 years
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SuperTone
MU
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2/24 14:14:38
That is insanity
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Gavin Citrus
MU
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2/24 14:19:15
how is that insanity? almost all coaches are going to get
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SuperTone
MU
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2/24 14:20:54
We're the 3rd-cheapest program in the SEC
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zoomer
99
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2/24 14:22:38
I expect us to hire and fire coaches in search of winning
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SuperTone
MU
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2/24 14:24:01
Then we'll get the cheapest HC or the cheapest staff
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zoomer
99
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2/24 14:26:03
fine with me as long as we keep trying to get better.(nm)
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SuperTone
MU
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2/24 14:32:57
Then every you try to hire is going to fail
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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2/24 14:15:58
well yes. are you new to college basketball?
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SuperTone
MU
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2/24 14:18:17
Most coaches do get fired
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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2/24 14:22:43
They get fired for failing to meet unrealistic expectations
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SuperTone
MU
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2/24 14:25:29
Not near as often.
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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2/24 14:27:08
an extension has to happen to fire CM and it has
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SuperTone
MU
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2/24 14:33:38
If season tickets sales were up, I would agree, but they are
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MU-TULSA
MU
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2/24 14:07:00
That guarantees you won’t get any of your top
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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2/24 14:12:24
Abysmal recruiting is why fans are discouraged. The future
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zounami
MU
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2/24 14:10:21
But CM said he was very excited about the class and they
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Diamond Dave
MU
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2/24 14:13:31
I posted an article from 247
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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2/24 14:14:53
The majority of ticket buying fans
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Gavin Citrus
MU
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2/24 14:13:28
Basketball just isn't a priority for the AD unfortunately
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zoomer
99
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2/24 13:17:23
Tigerboard has noticeably less posts these days
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jlbomega
MU
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2/24 13:24:47
Not sure that is basketball related
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FIJItiger
MU
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2/24 14:30:12
i dont know anyone who watches the full 40min anymore
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SuperTone
MU
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2/24 14:13:52
If the buyout remains the same, what difference would an
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zounami
MU
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2/24 13:28:09
College coaching extensions serve one purpose
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MIZtigerZOU
MU
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2/24 13:46:28
Wrong. The money is there...
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zounami
MU
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2/24 13:19:54
What I'd like to see is expenses minus conference travel
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doughboy
MU
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2/24 13:38:39
good points (nm)
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zoomer
99
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2/24 13:59:26
agreed (nm)
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zounami
MU
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2/24 14:08:52
you're right, I noticed UNC has about the same revenue as MU
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zoomer
99
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2/24 13:22:25
It's mind-boggling, but that's how incompetent our AD is. (nm)
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zounami
MU
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2/24 13:24:15
Note: replace "FB" with "FB and BB" in that post. (nm)
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zounami
MU
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2/24 13:21:52
It's Sterk's version of the vote of confindence
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Sigma
MU
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2/24 13:13:10
Mizzou basketball is dead
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Maty Football
KC
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2/24 12:57:50
They call it nostalgia
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Gavin Citrus
MU
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2/24 14:15:03
If it wasnt for transfers he wouldnt have a program at all
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MU-TULSA
MU
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2/24 12:54:01
Transfers have been a key part of Mizzou’s recruiting
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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2/24 13:03:17
Give me an f'ing break. One sign of a good coach is when...
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Deputy Dawg
MU
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2/24 12:52:52
This team is built around guard play and JT. When the
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Erwin Fletcher
STL
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2/24 13:46:14
Why cant you have a good guy and good coach, Sterk is
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MU-TULSA
MU
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2/24 13:10:10
HC's aren't paid 7-figure salaries to be a "nice guy"...
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zounami
MU
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2/24 13:15:24
Agreed. Sterk has been a failure...
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zounami
MU
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2/24 13:00:53
In the real world, if anyone had done 1/2 those things at
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MU-TULSA
MU
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2/24 13:11:25
correct (nm)
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zounami
MU
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2/24 13:15:46
No Mizzou coach has been successful at recruiting
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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2/24 12:56:29
They did address it they gave Cuonzo a 7 year 21 million
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Missiurifarmboy
MU
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2/24 13:24:50
And if he wins maybe he starts getting those guys
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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2/24 13:37:48
RE: No Mizzou coach has been successful at recruiting
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KC rules
MU
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2/24 13:05:17
Not anymore. They are striking out in K.C also
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Sigma
MU
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2/24 13:12:12
Yes, it's called hiring top-notch coaches. We've had many
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zounami
MU
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2/24 13:04:20
Howland? He has been worse at MSU
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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2/24 13:21:29
Isn't he undefeated against CM?... Regardless, it's tough to
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zounami
MU
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2/24 13:23:27
Mizzou has 4 more tournaments appearances in the last
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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2/24 13:35:45
Calipari rejected Mizzou
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doughboy
MU
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2/24 13:16:04
No, that's revisionist history. (nm)
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zounami
MU
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2/24 13:16:41
What part?(nm)
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doughboy
MU
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2/24 13:18:27
The part about Calipari. (nm)
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zounami
MU
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2/24 13:21:02
RE: Yes, it's called hiring top-notch coaches. We've had many
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KC rules
MU
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2/24 13:07:18
That's what they said about Rick Barnes. (nm)
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zounami
MU
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2/24 13:08:28
Amid a pandemic & budget shortfall, the optics of giving an
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zounami
MU
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2/24 12:50:29
I just don't get it
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Genco98
MU
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2/24 12:55:25
Correct, but 'Zo wants more than the $3 mil/yr he's getting.
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zounami
MU
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2/24 13:02:01
Also, most of those statements by Sterk are false...
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zounami
MU
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2/24 12:53:51
Exactly, I would tell him you have a decent contract, if you
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MU-TULSA
MU
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2/24 13:14:46
if an extension includes drastically reduced buyout
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SuperTone
MU
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2/24 12:44:20
Most likely is an 2-3 year extension
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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2/24 13:26:20
Two questions: (1) Why isn't 4 years enough? (2) What's the
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zounami
MU
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2/24 13:29:51
That’s how college sports works
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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2/24 13:40:59
its because recruits want to "think" the coach
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SuperTone
MU
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2/24 14:11:41
Then you need to offer the extension now (nm)
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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2/24 14:13:37
I wouldn't. I would just let him fail. Boosters should
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SuperTone
MU
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2/24 14:19:59
Good luck hiring the next guy if that’s what you do (nm)
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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2/24 14:23:45
UT did that and was able to hire Barnes so....
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SuperTone
MU
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2/24 14:34:55
They failed hard in between CM and RB
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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2/24 14:40:03
and also have an SEC title under their belt.(nm)
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SuperTone
MU
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2/24 14:41:58
OK, give him a 5 year extension with a 250k buyout and
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MU-TULSA
MU
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2/24 13:16:14