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What I'd like to see is expenses minus conference travel

Posted on: February 24, 2021 at 13:38:39 CT
doughboy MU
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If Mizzou is part of the SEC then we're stuck with higher travel expenses than everyone in the conference save aTm.

The question I have is how are the other funds being spent? Places I'd look at cutting

Sorry softball, no more air travel to open the season in California. You can bus to the Gulf Coast/Texas for season opening tourneys. Same goes for baseball and going out to Arizona, you can ride a bus to Houston or Dallas. Midweek games in both should be bus travel distance.

IIRC women's hoops is a huge money loser, is Pingeton providing return on the investment? Should her assistant pool be reduced?

Rumor on the college wrestling front is the Big 12 is taking Mizzou back as a wrestling only member, which is great as long as making trips to Cal Baptist isn't expected.

The bigger question I have - is it time for conferences covering all sports to go away. Football and men's hoops can make geographically spread conferences work. There's demand for the product (TV money) but for the other sports not so much. Should the other sports be in conferences that make geographic sense?
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"We're excited about the future" - Ace AU - 2/24 12:18:54
     What a joke-no MU fan I know would say that 4 hoops at least - Beakerbasher KC - 2/24 15:26:28
          probably because he doesn't care about winning.(nm) - SuperTone MU - 2/24 15:49:19
     This is the season we've been building toward for 4 yrs?* - pinkman MU - 2/24 13:38:49
          Cuonzo isn't going to make it at MU - FIJItiger MU - 2/24 14:25:46
               What would qualify as your criteria of success for this - longtimereader MU - 2/24 15:00:44
                    Return to 1970-1995 levels (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 2/24 15:03:52
                         You do realize it built up to that with 67-70 right?(nm) - longtimereader MU - 2/24 15:13:51
                              Yup. As I said heading into this year I thought that was - FIJItiger MU - 2/24 15:16:12
                                   It is imposssible and fruitless to contend with someone's - longtimereader MU - 2/24 15:30:33
                                        Agree with that response. My opinion is at this point - FIJItiger MU - 2/24 15:46:14
                                   Well you were emphatic about Brad Underwood failing at UI - Sigma MU - 2/24 15:22:08
                                        2 games under .500 in B1G play, no NCAA tournaments(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 2/24 15:23:15
                                             Last year was a lock & this year he's fighting for 1st place - Sigma MU - 2/24 15:26:32
                                                  I think I will still be right, but I see them play 1 game a - FIJItiger MU - 2/24 15:28:35
               Not sure. They said that about John Beilen at Michigan - Sigma MU - 2/24 14:51:09
                    I am. I wasn't sure before this year - FIJItiger MU - 2/24 14:58:39
                         I think TB has overestimated the talent on this team. - Sigma MU - 2/24 15:19:20
                              No, they are sufficiently talented - FIJItiger MU - 2/24 15:22:20
                                   Llimitations athletically were exposed last night. Plodders - Sigma MU - 2/24 15:25:04
                                        Next year Pickett and Watson will be our more athletic - FIJItiger MU - 2/24 15:29:36
                                             No they wont. - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/24 18:32:26
               Maybe but if the gutless sheep we call fans would - GA Tiger MU - 2/24 14:50:11
                    FYI, nobody is going to games due to Covid (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 2/24 14:57:17
                         Good point. Maybe next year.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 2/24 18:00:11
          No. - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/24 13:44:04
               I just mentioned this earlier this week. - longtimereader MU - 2/24 15:07:09
               If Cuonzo stays maybe it could become a Pinkel situation - Eggs MU - 2/24 14:47:33
                    Completely agree - Genco98 MU - 2/24 15:19:15
               We haven't made it yet - semotiger83 MU - 2/24 14:17:35
                    Mizzou has been better than an 8 seed - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/24 14:21:02
                         you make it sound expecting more than 50% of the time - SuperTone MU - 2/24 14:23:04
                              Look at other schools that had similar rebuilds - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/24 14:25:43
                                   I'd be fine with 2 of 4 at this point if there was hope for - SuperTone MU - 2/24 14:32:06
                                        What do you mean there’s not hope for the future? - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/24 14:38:00
                                             does not knowing give you higher expectations for next - SuperTone MU - 2/24 14:40:49
                                                  It means until after is see the roster to start any - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/24 14:50:54
                                                       arky has a much better coach.(nm) - SuperTone MU - 2/24 15:13:48
                                                            Maybe. So far his conference win percentage - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/24 15:16:33
                                                                 i wonder why the season is falling apart so quickly - SuperTone MU - 2/24 15:18:43
                                                                      Well Tilmon didn’t play in 2 of those games - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/24 15:39:27
                    I wonder if we can set a record for most Q1 wins w/out - SuperTone MU - 2/24 14:18:54
                         RE: I wonder if we can set a record for most Q1 wins w/out - semotiger83 MU - 2/24 14:22:20
               no it doesn't. 2 tournaments in 4 years - SuperTone MU - 2/24 14:14:38
                    That is insanity - Gavin Citrus MU - 2/24 14:19:15
                         how is that insanity? almost all coaches are going to get - SuperTone MU - 2/24 14:20:54
                              We're the 3rd-cheapest program in the SEC - zoomer 99 - 2/24 14:22:38
                                   I expect us to hire and fire coaches in search of winning - SuperTone MU - 2/24 14:24:01
                                        Then we'll get the cheapest HC or the cheapest staff - zoomer 99 - 2/24 14:26:03
                                             fine with me as long as we keep trying to get better.(nm) - SuperTone MU - 2/24 14:32:57
                    Then every you try to hire is going to fail - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/24 14:15:58
                         well yes. are you new to college basketball? - SuperTone MU - 2/24 14:18:17
                              Most coaches do get fired - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/24 14:22:43
                                   They get fired for failing to meet unrealistic expectations - SuperTone MU - 2/24 14:25:29
                                        Not near as often. - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/24 14:27:08
                                             an extension has to happen to fire CM and it has - SuperTone MU - 2/24 14:33:38
               If season tickets sales were up, I would agree, but they are - MU-TULSA MU - 2/24 14:07:00
                    That guarantees you won’t get any of your top - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/24 14:12:24
                    Abysmal recruiting is why fans are discouraged. The future - zounami MU - 2/24 14:10:21
                         But CM said he was very excited about the class and they - Diamond Dave MU - 2/24 14:13:31
                              I posted an article from 247 - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/24 14:14:53
                         The majority of ticket buying fans - Gavin Citrus MU - 2/24 14:13:28
     Basketball just isn't a priority for the AD unfortunately - zoomer 99 - 2/24 13:17:23
          Tigerboard has noticeably less posts these days - jlbomega MU - 2/24 13:24:47
               Not sure that is basketball related - FIJItiger MU - 2/24 14:30:12
               i dont know anyone who watches the full 40min anymore - SuperTone MU - 2/24 14:13:52
               If the buyout remains the same, what difference would an - zounami MU - 2/24 13:28:09
                    College coaching extensions serve one purpose - MIZtigerZOU MU - 2/24 13:46:28
          Wrong. The money is there... - zounami MU - 2/24 13:19:54
               What I'd like to see is expenses minus conference travel - doughboy MU - 2/24 13:38:39
                    good points (nm) - zoomer 99 - 2/24 13:59:26
                         agreed (nm) - zounami MU - 2/24 14:08:52
               you're right, I noticed UNC has about the same revenue as MU - zoomer 99 - 2/24 13:22:25
                    It's mind-boggling, but that's how incompetent our AD is. (nm) - zounami MU - 2/24 13:24:15
               Note: replace "FB" with "FB and BB" in that post. (nm) - zounami MU - 2/24 13:21:52
     It's Sterk's version of the vote of confindence - Sigma MU - 2/24 13:13:10
     Mizzou basketball is dead - Maty Football KC - 2/24 12:57:50
          They call it nostalgia - Gavin Citrus MU - 2/24 14:15:03
     If it wasnt for transfers he wouldnt have a program at all - MU-TULSA MU - 2/24 12:54:01
          Transfers have been a key part of Mizzou’s recruiting - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/24 13:03:17
     Give me an f'ing break. One sign of a good coach is when... - Deputy Dawg MU - 2/24 12:52:52
          This team is built around guard play and JT. When the - Erwin Fletcher STL - 2/24 13:46:14
          Why cant you have a good guy and good coach, Sterk is - MU-TULSA MU - 2/24 13:10:10
               HC's aren't paid 7-figure salaries to be a "nice guy"... - zounami MU - 2/24 13:15:24
          Agreed. Sterk has been a failure... - zounami MU - 2/24 13:00:53
               In the real world, if anyone had done 1/2 those things at - MU-TULSA MU - 2/24 13:11:25
                    correct (nm) - zounami MU - 2/24 13:15:46
          No Mizzou coach has been successful at recruiting - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/24 12:56:29
               They did address it they gave Cuonzo a 7 year 21 million - Missiurifarmboy MU - 2/24 13:24:50
                    And if he wins maybe he starts getting those guys - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/24 13:37:48
               RE: No Mizzou coach has been successful at recruiting - KC rules MU - 2/24 13:05:17
                    Not anymore. They are striking out in K.C also - Sigma MU - 2/24 13:12:12
               Yes, it's called hiring top-notch coaches. We've had many - zounami MU - 2/24 13:04:20
                    Howland? He has been worse at MSU - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/24 13:21:29
                         Isn't he undefeated against CM?... Regardless, it's tough to - zounami MU - 2/24 13:23:27
                              Mizzou has 4 more tournaments appearances in the last - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/24 13:35:45
                    Calipari rejected Mizzou - doughboy MU - 2/24 13:16:04
                         No, that's revisionist history. (nm) - zounami MU - 2/24 13:16:41
                              What part?(nm) - doughboy MU - 2/24 13:18:27
                                   The part about Calipari. (nm) - zounami MU - 2/24 13:21:02
                    RE: Yes, it's called hiring top-notch coaches. We've had many - KC rules MU - 2/24 13:07:18
                         That's what they said about Rick Barnes. (nm) - zounami MU - 2/24 13:08:28
     Amid a pandemic & budget shortfall, the optics of giving an - zounami MU - 2/24 12:50:29
          I just don't get it - Genco98 MU - 2/24 12:55:25
               Correct, but 'Zo wants more than the $3 mil/yr he's getting. - zounami MU - 2/24 13:02:01
          Also, most of those statements by Sterk are false... - zounami MU - 2/24 12:53:51
               Exactly, I would tell him you have a decent contract, if you - MU-TULSA MU - 2/24 13:14:46
     if an extension includes drastically reduced buyout - SuperTone MU - 2/24 12:44:20
          Most likely is an 2-3 year extension - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/24 13:26:20
               Two questions: (1) Why isn't 4 years enough? (2) What's the - zounami MU - 2/24 13:29:51
                    That’s how college sports works - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/24 13:40:59
                         its because recruits want to "think" the coach - SuperTone MU - 2/24 14:11:41
                              Then you need to offer the extension now (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/24 14:13:37
                                   I wouldn't. I would just let him fail. Boosters should - SuperTone MU - 2/24 14:19:59
                                        Good luck hiring the next guy if that’s what you do (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/24 14:23:45
                                             UT did that and was able to hire Barnes so.... - SuperTone MU - 2/24 14:34:55
                                                  They failed hard in between CM and RB - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/24 14:40:03
                                                       and also have an SEC title under their belt.(nm) - SuperTone MU - 2/24 14:41:58
          OK, give him a 5 year extension with a 250k buyout and - MU-TULSA MU - 2/24 13:16:14




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