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This guy was SEC player of the year

Posted on: May 26, 2021 at 13:20:06 CT

wu-tangtiger MU

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https://247sports.com/Player/Grant-Williams-70078/high-school-123002/

This one was 6th man this last season
https://247sports.com/Player/JD-Notae-46098802/high-school-247338/

Here’s another one this season
https://247sports.com/Player/Scotty-Pippen-Jr-46048039/high-school-216927/

5 of the 8 all conference players were below 100 in their class. 3 were below 200 in their class. The other 3 were top 40 recruits and freshmen.

You have faith in a ranking system that hasn’t been that great.

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Wutang has become a shameless liar. He's not even trying... - zounami MU - 5/26 06:53:48

Glad you get so bend about it. Jesus man find something - DevilsAdvocate KC - 5/27 10:39:44

A girlfriend would help... - BlackSheep MU - 5/27 12:48:46

Either way get it done(nm) - DevilsAdvocate KC - 5/27 15:14:33

still so bitter... cheer up, man (nm) - zounami MU - 5/27 11:52:30

I am completely content lol(nm) - DevilsAdvocate KC - 5/27 15:14:49

I trust him and try to ignore you - Jeff80 MU - 5/26 14:27:39

Wu has some quality takes, but he also pushes an agenda... - zounami MU - 5/26 18:58:52

While that is True - We ALL Push our Own Agenda - WrightWing MU - 5/27 00:32:40

This post is right on(nm) - DevilsAdvocate KC - 5/27 16:48:23

I agree with that, but he can be particularly sneaky in the - zounami MU - 5/27 01:45:35

Agree on the Sneakiness - Seems Averse to Posting Links - WrightWing MU - 5/27 01:57:52

There are a lot of coaches I would trade Cuonzo for - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/27 08:12:20

Understood - Your List is just Shorter than Mine(nm) - WrightWing MU - 5/27 12:39:36

Agreed.(nm) - Carlos Rossi KC - 5/26 16:35:23

🐑< ("Agreed.") - zounami MU - 5/26 18:59:21

Agreed. (nm) - go tigers MU

- 5/26 15:29:02

You people like talking about your own BS than sports. (nm) - mizzou john MU

- 5/26 11:12:25

this. I was going to say the same thing. This time - SabertoothTiger MU - 5/26 11:58:40

There’s nothing else going on right now - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/26 12:03:51

Cuonzo's recruiting has been fine. It hasn't been great but - tgr MU

- 5/26 09:31:07

Kind of a loser mentality. There's no reason Missouri - Ohtiger MU - 5/26 09:53:16

there are tons of reasons why - Jeff80 MU - 5/26 14:30:52

yes, that's the case for all middle-tier P5 programs, but - zounami MU - 5/26 19:04:04

Demand excellence! Never accept mediocrity! - Gavin Citrus MU - 5/26 12:33:49

Yes there is - Genco98 MU - 5/26 12:13:17

if Gonzaga can become a top 10 program, so can Mizzou... - zounami MU - 5/26 19:03:08

Gonzaga spends on basketball - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/26 19:06:40

if Gonzaga outspends us in ANYTHING, then shame on our AD... - zounami MU - 5/26 19:12:19

The only budget that matters is basketball - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/26 19:27:46

That doesn't refute anything I said... There is no excuse - zounami MU - 5/26 19:42:19

They aren’t a mid major - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/26 21:22:18

They're a mid-major by definition, with a top head coach. (nm) - zounami MU - 5/26 21:24:33

It's not a loser mentality. It's just reality. - tgr MU

- 5/26 11:32:17

Tell that to Gonzaga. (nm) - zounami MU - 5/26 19:04:35

Basketall isn't really that hard to succeed at, its only - FIJItiger MU

- 5/26 12:45:20

Exactly. Much easier to win in BB than FB, and we've had two - zounami MU - 5/26 19:05:30

MU will never get back to the glory days of Norm - Jeff80 MU - 5/26 14:33:10

LOL, you're such a mopey self-loathing sadsack - zounami MU - 5/26 19:06:29

They only reached those glory days because they - FIJItiger MU

- 5/26 15:12:12

I think this is accepted in football - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/26 14:34:46

Again, the standard is simply pre-2014 - FIJItiger MU

- 5/26 15:13:26

Mizzou is a healthy Jontay Porter away from achieving that - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/26 15:15:55

Jontay was healthy 3 seasons ago. MU is 20-32 in SEC play - FIJItiger MU

- 5/26 15:26:21

If he’s healthy Mizzou makes the tournament - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/26 15:30:31

We were below .500 in both 2018-19 and 2019-20 - FIJItiger MU

- 5/26 15:33:11

Those coaches combined to win 63% of their games - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/26 15:48:30

Oh good lord, are you going to become one of those x% of - FIJItiger MU

- 5/26 15:57:03

Jontay is in the NBA. He wasn’t an unproven player - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/26 16:00:03

He started 7 games for MU and avged less than 10 ppg - FIJItiger MU

- 5/26 16:04:33

That’s where we disagree - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/26 16:22:43

Links to recruits who 'refefenced Mizzou's struggles?' - Newcatbirdseat MU - 5/26 18:44:14

They haven’t had elite talent to showcase - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/26 19:09:10

Link to the Fletcher quote and the quotes from the - Newcatbirdseat MU - 5/26 19:50:35

Exactly, and you'd think Drink's recruiting would have shown - zounami MU - 5/26 10:01:42

His recruiting is still bottom half of the SEC - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/26 10:21:46

(1) He is top half at #7... (2) SEC FB vs BB recruiting is - zounami MU - 5/26 10:43:45

Watch when Mark Mitchell goes to - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/26 10:46:58

Those sought after by mid-majors are not the types of - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/26 10:59:01

Most had P6 offers - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/26 11:02:24

you have a link confirming any of those? - phrejd MU

- 5/26 11:47:35

I have linked the commitment articles in the past - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/26 11:52:51

"recruiting them" or "contacted" =/= offers. - phrejd MU

- 5/26 11:54:30

I will take those kids word - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/26 11:57:24

they didn't say they had offers. you did. (nm) - phrejd MU

- 5/26 12:02:32

They listed who they had offers from and who else - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/26 12:05:20

lol, this is what I'm talking about in the OP (nm) - zounami MU - 5/26 19:35:39

The only way of knowing who has offers - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/26 19:40:08

and the offers the listed weren't from P6 teams - phrejd MU

- 5/26 12:10:14

There’s only 2 that didn’t have P6 offers - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/26 12:14:03

you have a link confirming any of those? - phrejd MU

- 5/26 12:16:23

RE: you have a link confirming any of those? - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/26 12:43:35

oh, we're playing pretend again today. i get it. - phrejd MU

- 5/26 12:46:41

A 150th rated recruit will most likely get a P5 offer. That - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/26 11:09:19

Every year guys come from there and below to be great colleg - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/26 11:10:29

True, there are always going to be outliers and those that - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/26 11:27:28

Tennessee did. - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/26 11:31:55

There is a huge difference in ability between the ranges of - FIJItiger MU

- 5/26 12:50:47

This guy was SEC player of the year - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/26 13:20:06

Bowers and Pinson are about the only players I can - FIJItiger MU

- 5/26 14:25:48

Denmon, Dixon, Kash, Dru, Geist - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/26 14:33:37

Denmon/Dixon were top 150 level players - FIJItiger MU

- 5/26 15:14:32

Both were in the same range as Brookshire, Keita and Brazile - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/26 15:19:06

Disagree, not in the same realm caliber of recruits (nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 5/26 15:27:27

Based on recruiting rankings they are - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/26 15:32:12

Denmon won DiRenna Award given to the best prep player in KC - FIJItiger MU

- 5/26 15:42:17

I just linked both their recruiting rankings - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/26 15:50:20

247 wasn't a thing when they were recruits, I don't know if - FIJItiger MU

- 5/26 16:00:47

RE: 247 wasn't a thing when they were recruits, I don't know if - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/26 19:29:11

RE: There is a huge difference in ability between the ranges of - HSCoach STL - 5/26 13:16:35

Those are all transfers (nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 5/26 14:26:33

That is strike two for CM. His talent development has been - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/26 11:35:52

Who hasn’t developed? - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/26 11:39:01

MA was recruiting to a specific style. He also had a high - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/26 12:06:48

Better question, who has?(nm) - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/26 12:05:12

It’s a shorter list to include who hasn’t. - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/26 12:08:00

One year, already developed, yes, transfer, no, hell no, ? , - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/26 12:44:54

you are mentally ill (nm) - zoomer 99 - 5/26 08:27:18

do you ever post anything substantive? (nm) - zounami MU - 5/26 08:28:47

like psychotic, obsessive crusades against posters? (nm) - zoomer 99 - 5/26 08:32:31

In fairness to zounami that poster dominates this board - Genco98 MU - 5/26 12:15:16

I give wu credit where it's due, but he can be intentionally - zounami MU - 5/26 19:48:51

no, like posts with some actual substance in them (nm) - zounami MU - 5/26 08:34:08

nah. I only do the psycho obsessive stuff, like you (nm) - zoomer 99 - 5/26 08:35:43

so brave of you to stand up to him and call him out(nm) - TigerA MU - 5/26 08:04:46

just setting the record straight (nm) - zounami MU - 5/26 08:14:10

proving not all heroes wear capes(nm) - TigerA MU - 5/26 08:32:56

but zounami certainly does - MizzouAstro MU

- 5/26 08:33:52

rent-free (nm) - zounami MU - 5/26 08:37:56

congrats on owning a cape (nm) - TigerA MU - 5/26 08:58:29

another "cape" comment, as if the first one was clever (nm) - zounami MU - 5/26 09:17:56

odd that you think that would be some kind of triumph - MizzouAstro MU

- 5/26 08:41:34

what makes you think I consider it a "triumph"? (nm) - zounami MU - 5/26 08:42:49

you post it an embarrassing amount of times - MizzouAstro MU

- 5/26 08:52:41

no, you're describing how often you post "dumb".... - zounami MU - 5/26 08:56:25

more than once is enough(nm) - MizzouAstro MU

- 5/26 09:14:34

yes, so remember that, the next time you can't think of a - zounami MU - 5/26 09:28:47

no(nm) - MizzouAstro MU

- 5/26 10:13:38

I think cuanzo knows he's gone in two years - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 5/26 08:02:42

If you can't even spell his name correctly - ERB KC - 5/26 14:19:18

That could be a factor, but I think he revealed in a recent - zounami MU - 5/26 08:31:32

Yeah that's pretty damning(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 5/26 09:57:15

RE: That could be a factor, but I think he revealed in a recent - HSCoach STL - 5/26 08:45:19

I'll ask you the same question I asked wutang: Did Cuonzo... - zounami MU - 5/26 08:47:11

Recruiting is important but as LSU proved in football - alstl MU - 5/26 07:59:56

Well, CM is averaging an 8.5 finish in the SEC after 4 years - zounami MU - 5/26 08:01:34

and btw, let's assume wu was just cherry-picking the ranking - zounami MU - 5/26 07:05:50

I always use 247 as it includes the rivals and rankings - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/26 07:26:57

That's another lie, which I've called you out on before... - zounami MU - 5/26 07:32:26

So you are linking to yourself? - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/26 07:50:16

No, I was linking to the exchange we had... - zounami MU - 5/26 07:55:18

If they gave that up - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/26 08:04:09

That doesn't make it better, in terms of transparency or - zounami MU - 5/26 08:12:37

Here’s the difference in the 2 sports - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/26 08:16:49

it sure seems like BB's top recruiters tend to win more... - zounami MU - 5/26 08:23:23

If rankings matter like you think then - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/26 08:33:07

Baylor had poor recruiting? (nm) - zounami MU - 5/26 08:37:30

Here are the 4 classes that made up the title team - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/26 08:51:24

Small recruiting classes with numerous 4* players. That you - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/26 11:05:17

well said (nm) - zounami MU - 5/26 19:50:45

I’m not comparing those classes to CM - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/26 11:09:18

More spin... In actually, 11 out of their last 15 recruits - zounami MU - 5/26 09:10:48

Spin? I linked the rankings straight from 247 - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/26 09:20:02

Compare your cherry-picked facts to the ones I presented... - zounami MU - 5/26 09:41:35

I trust the rankings for the top 40 or so players - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/26 09:51:50