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Basketall isn't really that hard to succeed at, its only

Posted on: May 26, 2021 at 12:45:20 CT
FIJItiger MU
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hard if you don't have the right coaching staff. MU has all the necessary resources and positioning to compete at a national level.

Alabama basketball isn't good because of their resources or history. They hired a coach away from Buffalo that was making $800k for $2.4M, and even though historically its a crap program it will now be good for the foreseeable future. Because they hired a good coach. That is really all it takes, and then everything else falls in line unless you go to extremes in preventing the good coach from succeeding (which MU also has a tendency to do admittedly).

Look at what we were able to accomplish with Mike Anderson and staff, or Frank Haith and staff. Those are pretty mediocre coaching staffs, and MU was easily and consistently nationally relevant and competitive.

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Wutang has become a shameless liar. He's not even trying... - zounami MU - 5/26 06:53:48
     Glad you get so bend about it. Jesus man find something - DevilsAdvocate KC - 5/27 10:39:44
          A girlfriend would help... - BlackSheep MU - 5/27 12:48:46
               Either way get it done(nm) - DevilsAdvocate KC - 5/27 15:14:33
          still so bitter... cheer up, man (nm) - zounami MU - 5/27 11:52:30
               I am completely content lol(nm) - DevilsAdvocate KC - 5/27 15:14:49
     I trust him and try to ignore you - Jeff80 MU - 5/26 14:27:39
          Wu has some quality takes, but he also pushes an agenda... - zounami MU - 5/26 18:58:52
               While that is True - We ALL Push our Own Agenda - WrightWing MU - 5/27 00:32:40
                    This post is right on(nm) - DevilsAdvocate KC - 5/27 16:48:23
                    I agree with that, but he can be particularly sneaky in the - zounami MU - 5/27 01:45:35
                         Agree on the Sneakiness - Seems Averse to Posting Links - WrightWing MU - 5/27 01:57:52
                              There are a lot of coaches I would trade Cuonzo for - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/27 08:12:20
                                   Understood - Your List is just Shorter than Mine(nm) - WrightWing MU - 5/27 12:39:36
          Agreed.(nm) - Carlos Rossi KC - 5/26 16:35:23
               🐑< ("Agreed.") - zounami MU - 5/26 18:59:21
          Agreed. (nm) - go tigers MU - 5/26 15:29:02
     You people like talking about your own BS than sports. (nm) - mizzou john MU - 5/26 11:12:25
          this. I was going to say the same thing. This time - SabertoothTiger MU - 5/26 11:58:40
               There’s nothing else going on right now - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/26 12:03:51
     Cuonzo's recruiting has been fine. It hasn't been great but - tgr MU - 5/26 09:31:07
          Kind of a loser mentality. There's no reason Missouri - Ohtiger MU - 5/26 09:53:16
               there are tons of reasons why - Jeff80 MU - 5/26 14:30:52
                    yes, that's the case for all middle-tier P5 programs, but - zounami MU - 5/26 19:04:04
               Demand excellence! Never accept mediocrity! - Gavin Citrus MU - 5/26 12:33:49
               Yes there is - Genco98 MU - 5/26 12:13:17
                    if Gonzaga can become a top 10 program, so can Mizzou... - zounami MU - 5/26 19:03:08
                         Gonzaga spends on basketball - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/26 19:06:40
                              if Gonzaga outspends us in ANYTHING, then shame on our AD... - zounami MU - 5/26 19:12:19
                                   The only budget that matters is basketball - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/26 19:27:46
                                        That doesn't refute anything I said... There is no excuse - zounami MU - 5/26 19:42:19
                                             They aren’t a mid major - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/26 21:22:18
                                                  They're a mid-major by definition, with a top head coach. (nm) - zounami MU - 5/26 21:24:33
               It's not a loser mentality. It's just reality. - tgr MU - 5/26 11:32:17
                    Tell that to Gonzaga. (nm) - zounami MU - 5/26 19:04:35
                    Basketall isn't really that hard to succeed at, its only - FIJItiger MU - 5/26 12:45:20
                         Exactly. Much easier to win in BB than FB, and we've had two - zounami MU - 5/26 19:05:30
                         MU will never get back to the glory days of Norm - Jeff80 MU - 5/26 14:33:10
                              LOL, you're such a mopey self-loathing sadsack - zounami MU - 5/26 19:06:29
                              They only reached those glory days because they - FIJItiger MU - 5/26 15:12:12
                              I think this is accepted in football - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/26 14:34:46
                                   Again, the standard is simply pre-2014 - FIJItiger MU - 5/26 15:13:26
                                        Mizzou is a healthy Jontay Porter away from achieving that - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/26 15:15:55
                                             Jontay was healthy 3 seasons ago. MU is 20-32 in SEC play - FIJItiger MU - 5/26 15:26:21
                                                  If he’s healthy Mizzou makes the tournament - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/26 15:30:31
                                                       We were below .500 in both 2018-19 and 2019-20 - FIJItiger MU - 5/26 15:33:11
                                                            Those coaches combined to win 63% of their games - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/26 15:48:30
                                                                 Oh good lord, are you going to become one of those x% of - FIJItiger MU - 5/26 15:57:03
                                                                      Jontay is in the NBA. He wasn’t an unproven player - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/26 16:00:03
                                                                           He started 7 games for MU and avged less than 10 ppg - FIJItiger MU - 5/26 16:04:33
                                                                                That’s where we disagree - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/26 16:22:43
                                                                                     Links to recruits who 'refefenced Mizzou's struggles?' - Newcatbirdseat MU - 5/26 18:44:14
                                                                                          They haven’t had elite talent to showcase - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/26 19:09:10
                                                                                               Link to the Fletcher quote and the quotes from the - Newcatbirdseat MU - 5/26 19:50:35
               Exactly, and you'd think Drink's recruiting would have shown - zounami MU - 5/26 10:01:42
                    His recruiting is still bottom half of the SEC - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/26 10:21:46
                         (1) He is top half at #7... (2) SEC FB vs BB recruiting is - zounami MU - 5/26 10:43:45
                              Watch when Mark Mitchell goes to - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/26 10:46:58
                                   Those sought after by mid-majors are not the types of - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/26 10:59:01
                                        Most had P6 offers - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/26 11:02:24
                                             you have a link confirming any of those? - phrejd MU - 5/26 11:47:35
                                                  I have linked the commitment articles in the past - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/26 11:52:51
                                                       "recruiting them" or "contacted" =/= offers. - phrejd MU - 5/26 11:54:30
                                                            I will take those kids word - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/26 11:57:24
                                                                 they didn't say they had offers. you did. (nm) - phrejd MU - 5/26 12:02:32
                                                                      They listed who they had offers from and who else - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/26 12:05:20
                                                                           lol, this is what I'm talking about in the OP (nm) - zounami MU - 5/26 19:35:39
                                                                                The only way of knowing who has offers - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/26 19:40:08
                                                                           and the offers the listed weren't from P6 teams - phrejd MU - 5/26 12:10:14
                                                                                There’s only 2 that didn’t have P6 offers - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/26 12:14:03
                                                                                     you have a link confirming any of those? - phrejd MU - 5/26 12:16:23
                                                                                          RE: you have a link confirming any of those? - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/26 12:43:35
                                                                                               oh, we're playing pretend again today. i get it. - phrejd MU - 5/26 12:46:41
                                             A 150th rated recruit will most likely get a P5 offer. That - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/26 11:09:19
                                                  Every year guys come from there and below to be great colleg - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/26 11:10:29
                                                       True, there are always going to be outliers and those that - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/26 11:27:28
                                                            Tennessee did. - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/26 11:31:55
                                                                 There is a huge difference in ability between the ranges of - FIJItiger MU - 5/26 12:50:47
                                                                      This guy was SEC player of the year - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/26 13:20:06
                                                                           Bowers and Pinson are about the only players I can - FIJItiger MU - 5/26 14:25:48
                                                                                Denmon, Dixon, Kash, Dru, Geist - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/26 14:33:37
                                                                                     Denmon/Dixon were top 150 level players - FIJItiger MU - 5/26 15:14:32
                                                                                          Both were in the same range as Brookshire, Keita and Brazile - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/26 15:19:06
                                                                                               Disagree, not in the same realm caliber of recruits (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 5/26 15:27:27
                                                                                                    Based on recruiting rankings they are - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/26 15:32:12
                                                                                                         Denmon won DiRenna Award given to the best prep player in KC - FIJItiger MU - 5/26 15:42:17
                                                                                                              I just linked both their recruiting rankings - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/26 15:50:20
                                                                                                                   247 wasn't a thing when they were recruits, I don't know if - FIJItiger MU - 5/26 16:00:47
                                                                                                                        RE: 247 wasn't a thing when they were recruits, I don't know if - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/26 19:29:11
                                                                      RE: There is a huge difference in ability between the ranges of - HSCoach STL - 5/26 13:16:35
                                                                           Those are all transfers (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 5/26 14:26:33
                                                                 That is strike two for CM. His talent development has been - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/26 11:35:52
                                                                      Who hasn’t developed? - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/26 11:39:01
                                                                           MA was recruiting to a specific style. He also had a high - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/26 12:06:48
                                                                           Better question, who has?(nm) - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/26 12:05:12
                                                                                It’s a shorter list to include who hasn’t. - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/26 12:08:00
                                                                                     One year, already developed, yes, transfer, no, hell no, ? , - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/26 12:44:54
     you are mentally ill (nm) - zoomer 99 - 5/26 08:27:18
          do you ever post anything substantive? (nm) - zounami MU - 5/26 08:28:47
               like psychotic, obsessive crusades against posters? (nm) - zoomer 99 - 5/26 08:32:31
                    In fairness to zounami that poster dominates this board - Genco98 MU - 5/26 12:15:16
                         I give wu credit where it's due, but he can be intentionally - zounami MU - 5/26 19:48:51
                    no, like posts with some actual substance in them (nm) - zounami MU - 5/26 08:34:08
                         nah. I only do the psycho obsessive stuff, like you (nm) - zoomer 99 - 5/26 08:35:43
     so brave of you to stand up to him and call him out(nm) - TigerA MU - 5/26 08:04:46
          just setting the record straight (nm) - zounami MU - 5/26 08:14:10
               proving not all heroes wear capes(nm) - TigerA MU - 5/26 08:32:56
                    but zounami certainly does - MizzouAstro MU - 5/26 08:33:52
                         rent-free (nm) - zounami MU - 5/26 08:37:56
                              congrats on owning a cape (nm) - TigerA MU - 5/26 08:58:29
                                   another "cape" comment, as if the first one was clever (nm) - zounami MU - 5/26 09:17:56
                              odd that you think that would be some kind of triumph - MizzouAstro MU - 5/26 08:41:34
                                   what makes you think I consider it a "triumph"? (nm) - zounami MU - 5/26 08:42:49
                                        you post it an embarrassing amount of times - MizzouAstro MU - 5/26 08:52:41
                                             no, you're describing how often you post "dumb".... - zounami MU - 5/26 08:56:25
                                                  more than once is enough(nm) - MizzouAstro MU - 5/26 09:14:34
                                                       yes, so remember that, the next time you can't think of a - zounami MU - 5/26 09:28:47
                                                            no(nm) - MizzouAstro MU - 5/26 10:13:38
     I think cuanzo knows he's gone in two years - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 5/26 08:02:42
          If you can't even spell his name correctly - ERB KC - 5/26 14:19:18
          That could be a factor, but I think he revealed in a recent - zounami MU - 5/26 08:31:32
               Yeah that's pretty damning(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 5/26 09:57:15
               RE: That could be a factor, but I think he revealed in a recent - HSCoach STL - 5/26 08:45:19
                    I'll ask you the same question I asked wutang: Did Cuonzo... - zounami MU - 5/26 08:47:11
     Recruiting is important but as LSU proved in football - alstl MU - 5/26 07:59:56
          Well, CM is averaging an 8.5 finish in the SEC after 4 years - zounami MU - 5/26 08:01:34
     and btw, let's assume wu was just cherry-picking the ranking - zounami MU - 5/26 07:05:50
          I always use 247 as it includes the rivals and rankings - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/26 07:26:57
               That's another lie, which I've called you out on before... - zounami MU - 5/26 07:32:26
                    So you are linking to yourself? - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/26 07:50:16
                         No, I was linking to the exchange we had... - zounami MU - 5/26 07:55:18
                              If they gave that up - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/26 08:04:09
                                   That doesn't make it better, in terms of transparency or - zounami MU - 5/26 08:12:37
                                        Here’s the difference in the 2 sports - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/26 08:16:49
                                             it sure seems like BB's top recruiters tend to win more... - zounami MU - 5/26 08:23:23
                                                  If rankings matter like you think then - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/26 08:33:07
                                                       Baylor had poor recruiting? (nm) - zounami MU - 5/26 08:37:30
                                                            Here are the 4 classes that made up the title team - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/26 08:51:24
                                                                 Small recruiting classes with numerous 4* players. That you - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/26 11:05:17
                                                                      well said (nm) - zounami MU - 5/26 19:50:45
                                                                      I’m not comparing those classes to CM - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/26 11:09:18
                                                                 More spin... In actually, 11 out of their last 15 recruits - zounami MU - 5/26 09:10:48
                                                                      Spin? I linked the rankings straight from 247 - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/26 09:20:02
                                                                           Compare your cherry-picked facts to the ones I presented... - zounami MU - 5/26 09:41:35
                                                                                I trust the rankings for the top 40 or so players - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/26 09:51:50




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