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RE: Those, plus MU, are only 10 of the 14 SEC programs

Posted on: May 18, 2021 at 10:59:04 CT
TONYTIGR MU
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I forgot Alabama since added. What it tells me is that obviously Kentucky and Florida have been elite programs, and Tennessee lately under Barnes has been good. Everyone else just fights it out for 3-4 spots a year. I can accept those who feel MU should be better based on our history in the Big 8/12. But there's some solid coaches on that list who've struggled more than Zo has and those are facts, which of course can be so inconvenient.

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NCAA Appearances - TONYTIGR MU - 5/18 10:44:38
     Lol(nm) - ImpalaSS KC - 5/18 16:51:11
     this thread didn't go very well for you (nm) - phrejd MU - 5/18 16:36:06
          RE: this thread didn't go very well for you (nm) - TONYTIGR MU - 5/18 17:23:55
               riiiight. keep telling yourself that. (nm) - phrejd MU - 5/18 18:13:52
     (1) many of those schools would have made it in 2020... - zounami MU - 5/18 14:22:23
          (2) that list is extremely cherry-picked in terms of... - zounami MU - 5/18 14:23:47
               e.g. "1 in 4 years" could really be "3 in 5 years"... - zounami MU - 5/18 14:36:45
                    RE: e.g. "1 in 4 years" could really be "3 in 5 years"... - TONYTIGR MU - 5/18 14:56:34
                         hey genius, 1-in-4 to 3-in-5... that's adding 2020 and the - zounami MU - 5/18 15:12:31
                              RE: hey genius, 1-in-4 to 3-in-5... that's adding 2020 and the - TONYTIGR MU - 5/18 15:19:33
                                   I can read *and* do simple arithmetic, unlike you apparently - zounami MU - 5/18 15:21:56
     Where is KY, TN, FL? We were supposed to be top 4 in league - DollarSigns MU - 5/18 12:31:40
          Kentucky has made 0 in the last 2 years. Seriously... - zounami MU - 5/18 14:52:25
          he cherry-picked schools, cut-off years, and excluded 2020 - zounami MU - 5/18 14:26:10
               RE: he cherry-picked schools, cut-off years, and excluded 2020 - TONYTIGR MU - 5/18 14:44:40
                    The SEC has lots of bad basketball coaches - FIJItiger MU - 5/18 14:50:55
                         RE: The SEC has lots of bad basketball coaches - TONYTIGR MU - 5/18 14:59:38
                              I would. Frank Martin is a bad coach for example - FIJItiger MU - 5/18 15:04:25
                                   Frank Martin is the opposite of Cuonzo Martin in that - zounami MU - 5/18 15:16:10
                                   RE: I would. Frank Martin is a bad coach for example - TONYTIGR MU - 5/18 15:11:23
                                        Probably true, I have reasonably low tolerance - FIJItiger MU - 5/18 15:15:36
                                             RE: Probably true, I have reasonably low tolerance - TONYTIGR MU - 5/18 15:24:59
                                                  I don't think its fair to count Kim Anderson as a - FIJItiger MU - 5/18 15:31:28
                                                       RE: I don't think its fair to count Kim Anderson as a - TONYTIGR MU - 5/18 15:44:51
                    I wouldnt say CM is uniquely bad among SEC coaches - DollarSigns MU - 5/18 14:50:16
                    "0 SEC teams made the dance in 2020. That's how hard it is!" - zounami MU - 5/18 14:49:20
                         "Kentucky: 0 in the last 2 years!" (nm) - zounami MU - 5/18 14:51:02
                    you're not fooling anyone with your spin and deception (nm) - zounami MU - 5/18 14:46:31
                         RE: you're not fooling anyone with your spin and deception (nm) - TONYTIGR MU - 5/18 15:04:56
          Where is KY, TN, FL? Beating CM's butt regularly...nm - tigertix MU - 5/18 14:05:49
          based on what?(nm) - TigerA MU - 5/18 12:35:56
               Being top 3 incoming, and assuming a slight fall based on - FIJItiger MU - 5/18 12:38:24
                    top 3 in what? - zoomer 99 - 5/18 12:54:56
                         top 3 in all time tournament appearances and total wins. - phrejd MU - 5/18 16:54:12
                         All of the basketball experts indicated that MU would - DollarSigns MU - 5/18 13:29:04
                              do you remember where you read that other than - TigerA MU - 5/18 13:32:03
                                   RE: do you remember where you read that other than - FIJItiger MU - 5/18 14:47:10
                                   in his defense we were picked 3rd preseason by SEC media - zoomer 99 - 5/18 13:41:37
                                        It was a disappointing season, on par with the best - FIJItiger MU - 5/18 14:21:26
                                   RE: do you remember where you read that other than - DollarSigns MU - 5/18 13:34:25
                                        lol, ok(nm) - TigerA MU - 5/18 13:37:30
                         SEC. MU was the top program in the Big 8 (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 5/18 12:57:07
                              No, we were fourth according to this database. - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/18 13:40:50
                                   I wasn't meaning back to 1929 (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 5/18 14:16:20
                              impressive that MU, with its average 3rd-place finish - zoomer 99 - 5/18 13:00:03
                                   from 1980-1995 MU won twelve Big 8 championships (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 5/18 13:04:32
                                        Nicely cherrypicked. Here's the actual Big 8 standings - zoomer 99 - 5/18 13:14:16
                                             OU was the 2nd best program in the Big 8 (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 5/18 13:16:59
                                                  Support that with any sort of data - zoomer 99 - 5/18 13:18:24
                                                       I remember it happening. - FIJItiger MU - 5/18 13:21:06
                                        that's great although the conference is much older than that - TigerA MU - 5/18 13:11:57
                                             from 1975-1995 MU won fifteen Big 8 championships - FIJItiger MU - 5/18 13:13:48
                              i want to live in your world of delusion. (nm) - TigerA MU - 5/18 12:59:41
               RE: based on what?(nm) - DollarSigns MU - 5/18 12:36:51
                    seem legit(nm) - TigerA MU - 5/18 12:53:26
                         RE: seem legit(nm) - DollarSigns MU - 5/18 13:26:49
     No need to make yourself feel better here Cuonzo - TigerFan92 STL - 5/18 12:23:22
          Him and 'Ol Roy are all about the keeds......nm - tigertix MU - 5/18 12:27:30
     Misleading. LSU,Arky & Bama would have made it in 2020, - Sigma MU - 5/18 11:14:49
          yes, it's extremely deceptive... - zounami MU - 5/18 14:42:28
     none of those teams are elite like Missouri - zoomer 99 - 5/18 10:48:37
          MU is 10 games below .500 in conf play since Cuonzo - FIJItiger MU - 5/18 12:29:39
          frank haith won 73% of his game and made the tourney 66% of - phrejd MU - 5/18 11:04:26
               mike anderson won 66% of his games and made the tourney 60% - phrejd MU - 5/18 11:05:33
                    norm stewart won 66% of his games and made the tourney 71% - phrejd MU - 5/18 11:09:31
                         One correction, Norm earned an automatic bid in 1991 - FIJItiger MU - 5/18 12:19:31
                         RE: norm stewart won 66% of his games and made the tourney 71% - TONYTIGR MU - 5/18 11:12:22
                              P.S. ... Welcome to Tigerboard! - ERB KC - 5/18 12:07:38
                              Except you are now using their records from schools other - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/18 11:17:16
                                   MU coaches have historically won 58% of games - zoomer 99 - 5/18 11:21:48
                                        If by cherry picking you mean the last 50 years, then yes. - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/18 11:27:26
                                             some of these guys think the program started in 2014 (nm) - phrejd MU - 5/18 11:29:08
                                                  Some think it started in 1967 (nm) - zoomer 99 - 5/18 11:30:23
                                                       the average win % of all coaches prior to '67 was .593 - phrejd MU - 5/18 11:59:19
                                                       The modern era of Mizzou BB did. I DGAF what the 1924 team - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/18 11:33:47
                                                            the '24 team went 7-11, 6-10 in conference, which was enough - phrejd MU - 5/18 12:05:29
                                             I mean the word "historical" has a meaning - zoomer 99 - 5/18 11:28:35
                                                  Historical does not mean everything either. Most here do - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/18 11:32:38
                                                       RE: Historical does not mean everything either. Most here do - TONYTIGR MU - 5/18 11:39:20
                                        frank haith had a .731 win percentage (nm) - phrejd MU - 5/18 11:24:23
                                             mike anderson had a .661 win percentage (nm) - phrejd MU - 5/18 11:24:52
                                                  MU fans hated CMA because he wasn't good enough for MU - zoomer 99 - 5/18 11:25:30
                                                       BS, now you are simply being an a$$. That does seem to be - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/18 11:28:43
                                                            same song, different verse (nm) - phrejd MU - 5/18 11:35:02
                                                       don't be silly (nm) - phrejd MU - 5/18 11:27:02
                                                            Terrible attendance in 20+ win seasons - zoomer 99 - 5/18 11:28:05
                                                                 you have a link to that, or are we playing pretend again? - phrejd MU - 5/18 11:30:13
                                                                      RE: you have a link to that, or are we playing pretend again? - zoomer 99 - 5/18 11:32:07
                                                                           RE: you have a link to that, or are we playing pretend again? - TONYTIGR MU - 5/18 12:06:48
                                                                           are we pretending that article is about people hating CMA - phrejd MU - 5/18 11:56:12
                                                                                you're very confused, I think (nm) - zoomer 99 - 5/18 12:19:49
                                                                                     is this not what you were referring to? - phrejd MU - 5/18 12:22:15
                                                                                          have you ever been to Columbia? (nm) - zoomer 99 - 5/18 12:33:48
                                                                                               [rolls eyes] (nm) - phrejd MU - 5/18 16:21:09
                                                  norm stewart had a .656 win percentage (nm) - phrejd MU - 5/18 11:25:16
                                                       walter meanwell had a .944 win percentage (nm) - phrejd MU - 5/18 11:25:46
                                                            quin snyder averaged 21.25 wins per year - phrejd MU - 5/18 11:26:43
                                             Frank Haith has the only 0-win season in MU history (nm) - zoomer 99 - 5/18 11:24:47
                                   yeah but there's this one guy at mississippi state who has - phrejd MU - 5/18 11:18:20
                              i don't care what other coaches did at other jobs - phrejd MU - 5/18 11:15:17
                         quin snyder won 72% of his games and made the tourney 100% - phrejd MU - 5/18 11:11:01
                              yes, about a 70% win rate. That's Missouri basketball - zoomer 99 - 5/18 11:14:04
                                   kim anderson only won 28% of his games. him and the guy we - phrejd MU - 5/18 11:17:19
                              craig ruby won 93% of his games and then went on to - phrejd MU - 5/18 11:12:19
                                   walter meanwell won 94% of his games - phrejd MU - 5/18 11:12:52
                         and was one and done most years and owned by Roy...nm - tigertix MU - 5/18 11:10:39
                              no - phrejd MU - 5/18 11:21:19
                    exactly. This proves MU is an elite program (nm) - zoomer 99 - 5/18 11:06:42
                         no you're right it's a program that should be expected to - phrejd MU - 5/18 11:23:12
     Those, plus MU, are only 10 of the 14 SEC programs - FIJItiger MU - 5/18 10:48:11
          RE: Those, plus MU, are only 10 of the 14 SEC programs - TONYTIGR MU - 5/18 10:59:04
               MU doesn't fight it out for the 3-4 spot - FIJItiger MU - 5/18 12:16:18
                    RE: MU doesn't fight it out for the 3-4 spot - TONYTIGR MU - 5/18 13:02:38
                         I do. And I don't agree it is all about NCAA tourney invite(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 5/18 13:07:09
                    Mizzou was this season (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/18 12:48:16
                         We got 7th, and that is in a year when UK was below us (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 5/18 12:52:47
               A lot of Mizzou fans view Mizzou’s history - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/18 11:09:28
                    Did you see what Phrejd is posting? It does not look like - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/18 11:14:42
                         RE: Did you see what Phrejd is posting? It does not look like - TONYTIGR MU - 5/18 11:53:40
                         Quin, MA and Haith combined to make the tournament - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/18 11:24:54
                              They played the entire season in his third year, he was not - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/18 11:35:40
                                   I agree he’s at 50% - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/18 11:46:45
                                        He is nowhere near those other coaches. - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/18 12:01:57
                                             RE: He is nowhere near those other coaches. - TBrown MU - 5/18 15:49:14
                                                  Please show the hate in my post. You consider data to be - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/19 08:08:02
                                             With a normal number of buy games Cuonzo - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/18 14:03:16
                                                  The only thing holding Mizzou back is a mediocre coach - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/18 20:58:58




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