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Those, plus MU, are only 10 of the 14 SEC programs

Posted on: May 18, 2021 at 10:48:11 CT
FIJItiger MU
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The problem is that MU 'should' be a top 4 in the SEC type of program, we certainly were when we joined the conference and that was their incoming expectation for MU basketball. However instead we have been nowhere near a top 4 in the SEC type of program.

I don't particularly care how hard it is for the bottom end of the SEC to make the SEC tourney consistently. I care that MU stops being in the bottom end of the SEC in the first place.

Edited by FIJItiger at 10:48:42 on 05/18/21
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NCAA Appearances - TONYTIGR MU - 5/18 10:44:38
     Lol(nm) - ImpalaSS KC - 5/18 16:51:11
     this thread didn't go very well for you (nm) - phrejd MU - 5/18 16:36:06
          RE: this thread didn't go very well for you (nm) - TONYTIGR MU - 5/18 17:23:55
               riiiight. keep telling yourself that. (nm) - phrejd MU - 5/18 18:13:52
     (1) many of those schools would have made it in 2020... - zounami MU - 5/18 14:22:23
          (2) that list is extremely cherry-picked in terms of... - zounami MU - 5/18 14:23:47
               e.g. "1 in 4 years" could really be "3 in 5 years"... - zounami MU - 5/18 14:36:45
                    RE: e.g. "1 in 4 years" could really be "3 in 5 years"... - TONYTIGR MU - 5/18 14:56:34
                         hey genius, 1-in-4 to 3-in-5... that's adding 2020 and the - zounami MU - 5/18 15:12:31
                              RE: hey genius, 1-in-4 to 3-in-5... that's adding 2020 and the - TONYTIGR MU - 5/18 15:19:33
                                   I can read *and* do simple arithmetic, unlike you apparently - zounami MU - 5/18 15:21:56
     Where is KY, TN, FL? We were supposed to be top 4 in league - DollarSigns MU - 5/18 12:31:40
          Kentucky has made 0 in the last 2 years. Seriously... - zounami MU - 5/18 14:52:25
          he cherry-picked schools, cut-off years, and excluded 2020 - zounami MU - 5/18 14:26:10
               RE: he cherry-picked schools, cut-off years, and excluded 2020 - TONYTIGR MU - 5/18 14:44:40
                    The SEC has lots of bad basketball coaches - FIJItiger MU - 5/18 14:50:55
                         RE: The SEC has lots of bad basketball coaches - TONYTIGR MU - 5/18 14:59:38
                              I would. Frank Martin is a bad coach for example - FIJItiger MU - 5/18 15:04:25
                                   Frank Martin is the opposite of Cuonzo Martin in that - zounami MU - 5/18 15:16:10
                                   RE: I would. Frank Martin is a bad coach for example - TONYTIGR MU - 5/18 15:11:23
                                        Probably true, I have reasonably low tolerance - FIJItiger MU - 5/18 15:15:36
                                             RE: Probably true, I have reasonably low tolerance - TONYTIGR MU - 5/18 15:24:59
                                                  I don't think its fair to count Kim Anderson as a - FIJItiger MU - 5/18 15:31:28
                                                       RE: I don't think its fair to count Kim Anderson as a - TONYTIGR MU - 5/18 15:44:51
                    I wouldnt say CM is uniquely bad among SEC coaches - DollarSigns MU - 5/18 14:50:16
                    "0 SEC teams made the dance in 2020. That's how hard it is!" - zounami MU - 5/18 14:49:20
                         "Kentucky: 0 in the last 2 years!" (nm) - zounami MU - 5/18 14:51:02
                    you're not fooling anyone with your spin and deception (nm) - zounami MU - 5/18 14:46:31
                         RE: you're not fooling anyone with your spin and deception (nm) - TONYTIGR MU - 5/18 15:04:56
          Where is KY, TN, FL? Beating CM's butt regularly...nm - tigertix MU - 5/18 14:05:49
          based on what?(nm) - TigerA MU - 5/18 12:35:56
               Being top 3 incoming, and assuming a slight fall based on - FIJItiger MU - 5/18 12:38:24
                    top 3 in what? - zoomer 99 - 5/18 12:54:56
                         top 3 in all time tournament appearances and total wins. - phrejd MU - 5/18 16:54:12
                         All of the basketball experts indicated that MU would - DollarSigns MU - 5/18 13:29:04
                              do you remember where you read that other than - TigerA MU - 5/18 13:32:03
                                   RE: do you remember where you read that other than - FIJItiger MU - 5/18 14:47:10
                                   in his defense we were picked 3rd preseason by SEC media - zoomer 99 - 5/18 13:41:37
                                        It was a disappointing season, on par with the best - FIJItiger MU - 5/18 14:21:26
                                   RE: do you remember where you read that other than - DollarSigns MU - 5/18 13:34:25
                                        lol, ok(nm) - TigerA MU - 5/18 13:37:30
                         SEC. MU was the top program in the Big 8 (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 5/18 12:57:07
                              No, we were fourth according to this database. - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/18 13:40:50
                                   I wasn't meaning back to 1929 (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 5/18 14:16:20
                              impressive that MU, with its average 3rd-place finish - zoomer 99 - 5/18 13:00:03
                                   from 1980-1995 MU won twelve Big 8 championships (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 5/18 13:04:32
                                        Nicely cherrypicked. Here's the actual Big 8 standings - zoomer 99 - 5/18 13:14:16
                                             OU was the 2nd best program in the Big 8 (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 5/18 13:16:59
                                                  Support that with any sort of data - zoomer 99 - 5/18 13:18:24
                                                       I remember it happening. - FIJItiger MU - 5/18 13:21:06
                                        that's great although the conference is much older than that - TigerA MU - 5/18 13:11:57
                                             from 1975-1995 MU won fifteen Big 8 championships - FIJItiger MU - 5/18 13:13:48
                              i want to live in your world of delusion. (nm) - TigerA MU - 5/18 12:59:41
               RE: based on what?(nm) - DollarSigns MU - 5/18 12:36:51
                    seem legit(nm) - TigerA MU - 5/18 12:53:26
                         RE: seem legit(nm) - DollarSigns MU - 5/18 13:26:49
     No need to make yourself feel better here Cuonzo - TigerFan92 STL - 5/18 12:23:22
          Him and 'Ol Roy are all about the keeds......nm - tigertix MU - 5/18 12:27:30
     Misleading. LSU,Arky & Bama would have made it in 2020, - Sigma MU - 5/18 11:14:49
          yes, it's extremely deceptive... - zounami MU - 5/18 14:42:28
     none of those teams are elite like Missouri - zoomer 99 - 5/18 10:48:37
          MU is 10 games below .500 in conf play since Cuonzo - FIJItiger MU - 5/18 12:29:39
          frank haith won 73% of his game and made the tourney 66% of - phrejd MU - 5/18 11:04:26
               mike anderson won 66% of his games and made the tourney 60% - phrejd MU - 5/18 11:05:33
                    norm stewart won 66% of his games and made the tourney 71% - phrejd MU - 5/18 11:09:31
                         One correction, Norm earned an automatic bid in 1991 - FIJItiger MU - 5/18 12:19:31
                         RE: norm stewart won 66% of his games and made the tourney 71% - TONYTIGR MU - 5/18 11:12:22
                              P.S. ... Welcome to Tigerboard! - ERB KC - 5/18 12:07:38
                              Except you are now using their records from schools other - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/18 11:17:16
                                   MU coaches have historically won 58% of games - zoomer 99 - 5/18 11:21:48
                                        If by cherry picking you mean the last 50 years, then yes. - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/18 11:27:26
                                             some of these guys think the program started in 2014 (nm) - phrejd MU - 5/18 11:29:08
                                                  Some think it started in 1967 (nm) - zoomer 99 - 5/18 11:30:23
                                                       the average win % of all coaches prior to '67 was .593 - phrejd MU - 5/18 11:59:19
                                                       The modern era of Mizzou BB did. I DGAF what the 1924 team - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/18 11:33:47
                                                            the '24 team went 7-11, 6-10 in conference, which was enough - phrejd MU - 5/18 12:05:29
                                             I mean the word "historical" has a meaning - zoomer 99 - 5/18 11:28:35
                                                  Historical does not mean everything either. Most here do - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/18 11:32:38
                                                       RE: Historical does not mean everything either. Most here do - TONYTIGR MU - 5/18 11:39:20
                                        frank haith had a .731 win percentage (nm) - phrejd MU - 5/18 11:24:23
                                             mike anderson had a .661 win percentage (nm) - phrejd MU - 5/18 11:24:52
                                                  MU fans hated CMA because he wasn't good enough for MU - zoomer 99 - 5/18 11:25:30
                                                       BS, now you are simply being an a$$. That does seem to be - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/18 11:28:43
                                                            same song, different verse (nm) - phrejd MU - 5/18 11:35:02
                                                       don't be silly (nm) - phrejd MU - 5/18 11:27:02
                                                            Terrible attendance in 20+ win seasons - zoomer 99 - 5/18 11:28:05
                                                                 you have a link to that, or are we playing pretend again? - phrejd MU - 5/18 11:30:13
                                                                      RE: you have a link to that, or are we playing pretend again? - zoomer 99 - 5/18 11:32:07
                                                                           RE: you have a link to that, or are we playing pretend again? - TONYTIGR MU - 5/18 12:06:48
                                                                           are we pretending that article is about people hating CMA - phrejd MU - 5/18 11:56:12
                                                                                you're very confused, I think (nm) - zoomer 99 - 5/18 12:19:49
                                                                                     is this not what you were referring to? - phrejd MU - 5/18 12:22:15
                                                                                          have you ever been to Columbia? (nm) - zoomer 99 - 5/18 12:33:48
                                                                                               [rolls eyes] (nm) - phrejd MU - 5/18 16:21:09
                                                  norm stewart had a .656 win percentage (nm) - phrejd MU - 5/18 11:25:16
                                                       walter meanwell had a .944 win percentage (nm) - phrejd MU - 5/18 11:25:46
                                                            quin snyder averaged 21.25 wins per year - phrejd MU - 5/18 11:26:43
                                             Frank Haith has the only 0-win season in MU history (nm) - zoomer 99 - 5/18 11:24:47
                                   yeah but there's this one guy at mississippi state who has - phrejd MU - 5/18 11:18:20
                              i don't care what other coaches did at other jobs - phrejd MU - 5/18 11:15:17
                         quin snyder won 72% of his games and made the tourney 100% - phrejd MU - 5/18 11:11:01
                              yes, about a 70% win rate. That's Missouri basketball - zoomer 99 - 5/18 11:14:04
                                   kim anderson only won 28% of his games. him and the guy we - phrejd MU - 5/18 11:17:19
                              craig ruby won 93% of his games and then went on to - phrejd MU - 5/18 11:12:19
                                   walter meanwell won 94% of his games - phrejd MU - 5/18 11:12:52
                         and was one and done most years and owned by Roy...nm - tigertix MU - 5/18 11:10:39
                              no - phrejd MU - 5/18 11:21:19
                    exactly. This proves MU is an elite program (nm) - zoomer 99 - 5/18 11:06:42
                         no you're right it's a program that should be expected to - phrejd MU - 5/18 11:23:12
     Those, plus MU, are only 10 of the 14 SEC programs - FIJItiger MU - 5/18 10:48:11
          RE: Those, plus MU, are only 10 of the 14 SEC programs - TONYTIGR MU - 5/18 10:59:04
               MU doesn't fight it out for the 3-4 spot - FIJItiger MU - 5/18 12:16:18
                    RE: MU doesn't fight it out for the 3-4 spot - TONYTIGR MU - 5/18 13:02:38
                         I do. And I don't agree it is all about NCAA tourney invite(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 5/18 13:07:09
                    Mizzou was this season (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/18 12:48:16
                         We got 7th, and that is in a year when UK was below us (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 5/18 12:52:47
               A lot of Mizzou fans view Mizzou’s history - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/18 11:09:28
                    Did you see what Phrejd is posting? It does not look like - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/18 11:14:42
                         RE: Did you see what Phrejd is posting? It does not look like - TONYTIGR MU - 5/18 11:53:40
                         Quin, MA and Haith combined to make the tournament - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/18 11:24:54
                              They played the entire season in his third year, he was not - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/18 11:35:40
                                   I agree he’s at 50% - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/18 11:46:45
                                        He is nowhere near those other coaches. - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/18 12:01:57
                                             RE: He is nowhere near those other coaches. - TBrown MU - 5/18 15:49:14
                                                  Please show the hate in my post. You consider data to be - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/19 08:08:02
                                             With a normal number of buy games Cuonzo - wu-tangtiger MU - 5/18 14:03:16
                                                  The only thing holding Mizzou back is a mediocre coach - DHighlander NWMSU - 5/18 20:58:58




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