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With the winning part or the recruiting part?

Posted on: March 9, 2021 at 16:06:01 CT
zoomer 99
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He's definitely winning games at a lower rate here than any other stop in his career.

His recruiting is arguably worse, especially if you consider the MPJ class (one that's much better than MU or Cuonzo has ever had) to be an outlier. I also consider player retention to be part of recruiting.
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Why did CM recruit better and win more at Cal/Tennessee? - zoomer 99 - 3/9 13:28:31
     Porter Crash lasted two years - raskolnikov MU - 3/9 18:16:39
     Maybe the recruits read Tigerboard - Delicious MU - 3/9 15:13:48
          Tennessee's message boards are far worse... - zounami MU - 3/9 15:14:21
     Not sure I totally agree with this premise. (nm) - mizzou john MU - 3/9 15:05:11
          With the winning part or the recruiting part? - zoomer 99 - 3/9 16:06:01
               yes (nm) - zounami MU - 3/9 16:07:28
                    your pills, zounami - zoomer 99 - 3/9 16:09:00
          He's a tard. (nm) - zounami MU - 3/9 15:06:23
     (1) Mizzou BB > Cal BB, and it's not close. Compare the - zounami MU - 3/9 14:09:30
          RE: (1) Mizzou BB > Cal BB, and it's not close. Compare the - THEGROVE68 MU - 3/10 01:03:49
          I beg your pardon? - Yellow Weasel MU - 3/9 14:59:10
               Cal doesn't give a crap about basketball now - XRob MU - 3/9 15:16:33
               Cal hasn't made it past the Sweet 16 since 1960, and they've - zounami MU - 3/9 15:13:12
                    1989-94 is pretty much in the rear view mirror, too - Yellow Weasel MU - 3/9 15:37:09
                         What about 2002, 2009, 2012?... We reached an Elite 8 or - zounami MU - 3/9 15:40:48
                              not sure that I would call that an indication of a success - Yellow Weasel MU - 3/9 15:47:58
                                   You're showing your bias. The fact that 3 different coaches - zounami MU - 3/9 15:49:15
                                        hardly. there's nothing sustained there. - Yellow Weasel MU - 3/9 15:53:54
                                             Norm. Quin. MA. Haith. They were all able to do it at MU... - zounami MU - 3/9 15:56:02
                                                  Norm was the only one who could contend for - Yellow Weasel MU - 3/9 16:04:04
                                                       keep going back 6+ decades to try to make your argument... - zounami MU - 3/9 16:06:11
                                                            I wasn't aware time had anything to do with it - Yellow Weasel MU - 3/9 16:18:58
                                                                 Of course it does. Do you think Yale is a FB powerhouse? (nm) - zounami MU - 3/9 16:23:59
                                                                      they were. - Yellow Weasel MU - 3/9 17:05:10
                                                                           yes, but it's completely irrelevant to the 21st century... - zounami MU - 3/9 17:39:08
                                                                                No. Not at all - Yellow Weasel MU - 3/9 19:10:33
                                                                                     k (nm) - zounami MU - 3/9 19:41:38
                                                                                          No prob(nm) - Yellow Weasel MU - 3/9 20:00:32
          Where is t the is belief coming from that Drink is doing - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/9 14:14:46
               SEC is dominate in FBall, probably 4th best in BBall - MoGold MU - 3/9 14:41:49
                    Exactly. Drink is crushing Cuonzo on the recruiting trail. (nm) - zounami MU - 3/9 14:44:24
                         4-star recruits for '21/'22... Drink: 7... Cuonzo: 0... - zounami MU - 3/9 14:49:22
                              It's clear that Drink has had more success on a relative - KC rules MU - 3/9 15:50:12
                                   7/28 (25% rate) versus 0/5 (0% rate)... - zounami MU - 3/9 15:52:52
                                        Bear in mind that there only a handful of programs that - KC rules MU - 3/9 16:01:49
                                             really dumb take (nm) - zounami MU - 3/9 16:03:11
                                                  It's math. And a single 4 star also has far more impact in - KC rules MU - 3/9 16:08:47
                                                       There are a *proportional* number of 4-star recruits in - zounami MU - 3/9 16:22:04
               4-star recruits: Drink = 5/23... Cuonzo = 0/5... - zounami MU - 3/9 14:26:07
                    To be fair.. Cuonzo landed a 4/5 star loaded class in 2017. - TigerMatt STL - 3/9 14:34:33
                         Yea he has. - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/9 14:49:35
                              4-star recruits for '21/'22... Drink: 7... Cuonzo: 0... - zounami MU - 3/9 14:54:40
                                   and still 11th in the sec - Jeff80 MU - 3/10 13:16:22
                                        but likely to improve (nm) - zounami MU - 3/10 17:54:52
                              Cuonzo put ZERO effort into "recruiting" the Porters... - zounami MU - 3/9 14:53:11
                                   He did put effort. Mizzou wasn’t the only school - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/9 14:57:01
                                        They publicly stated they wanted to come home. - alwaysright MU - 3/9 20:25:20
                                             RE: They publicly stated they wanted to come home. - bmtaylo1 UGA - 3/11 19:04:26
                                             Their preference was obviously to play for Mizzou - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/9 20:43:50
                                        LOL... We had the Porters before we had Cuonzo. You're so - zounami MU - 3/9 14:58:30
                                             You have the timeline wrong - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/9 15:01:26
                                                  It all happened at virtually the same time, and it was all - zounami MU - 3/9 15:04:26
                                                       $$$ that’s how the Porters came here - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/9 15:11:05
                                                            is Drink cheating? He's landed 7 four-star recruits in 21/22 - zounami MU - 3/9 15:15:49
                                                                 Probably so. Cuonzo should do that as well - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/9 15:22:26
                                                                      Wow. There is no limit to how low you'll stoop to defend - zounami MU - 3/9 15:24:23
                                                                           Come down off that high horse...time to start cheatin' - BlackSheep MU - 3/9 19:11:44
                                                                           I just understand how recruiting works - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/9 15:31:16
                                                                                I had to put this "Drink cheats" take on the FB board. - zounami MU - 3/9 15:34:28
                                                                                     Everyone should cheat - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/9 15:42:38
                                                                                          let him rage and cry for attention - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 3/9 15:52:35
                                                                                               Odom's bіtch weighs in. (nm) - zounami MU - 3/9 15:54:28
                         How many transferred out? - MoGold MU - 3/9 14:43:08
                         No, CM didn't "land" those recruits, they fell into his lap - zounami MU - 3/9 14:41:04
                    They are both doing a similar job overall - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/9 14:30:17
                         Not in 2021. Drink had top 25 class. Martin around 40(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 3/9 14:38:07
                              There’s a difference in the 2 sports. - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/9 14:47:45
                                   You've reached a new low of excuse-making with... - zounami MU - 3/9 14:50:04
                                        Is it an excuse. - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/9 14:55:06
                                             Yes, and it's spin... CM has *missed* on all his targets... - zounami MU - 3/9 14:57:28
                                                  lol (nm) - Cosmo MU - 3/9 18:57:07
                                                  I am sure you have seen the work the coaches put in (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/9 14:58:57
                              and Drink w/ five 4-star recruits.... Cuonzo w/ zero... - zounami MU - 3/9 14:43:39
                         Wrong. The facts show that Drink wins recruiting battles... - zounami MU - 3/9 14:31:39
                    That's 2021... 2022 is even better for Drink with 2/5 being - zounami MU - 3/9 14:28:16
                         note: 2022 is on pace to be MU's highest-ranked class of all - zounami MU - 3/9 14:33:27
     He got lazy with that iron-clad deal from Sterk. (nm) - zounami MU - 3/9 13:53:21
          This is a lazy answer. His biggest issue is he doesn't cheat - Ernie Webb III - 3/9 14:54:15
               4-star recruits for '21/'22... Drink: 7... Cuonzo: 0... - zounami MU - 3/9 14:55:54
               no, THAT is the lazy excuse... - zounami MU - 3/9 14:55:34
          which is why his contract should be 100% incentives-based (nm) - zounami MU - 3/9 13:54:07
               should we make it year to year?(nm) - TigerA MU - 3/9 13:57:25
                    no, but extremely low buyout (nm) - zounami MU - 3/9 13:58:38
                         i bet all the coaches will be chomping at the bit to work - TigerA MU - 3/9 13:59:26
                              other coaches don't have a laziness problem like he does - zounami MU - 3/9 13:59:54
                                   lol, ok(nm) - TigerA MU - 3/9 14:00:45
     so many variables - fatrat MU - 3/9 13:41:08
          True, he inherited better programs at Cal/Tenn - zoomer 99 - 3/9 13:45:49
     He didn’t (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/9 13:40:22
          He didn't win more games? What? (nm) - zoomer 99 - 3/9 13:42:47
               Didn’t recruit better at Cal or Tennessee - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/9 13:47:18
                    All his TN classes were top 40. 1/4 of his MU classes is - zoomer 99 - 3/9 13:50:30
                         I guess we are looking at different ways of evaluating - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/9 13:54:25
                              That last sentence? LOL(nm) - LamarFrazier MU - 3/9 14:38:29
                                   Is it wrong? - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/9 14:43:01
                                        you really wanna dig into the archives? - LamarFrazier MU - 3/9 15:30:39
                                             Yep. Blue bloods obviously do - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/9 15:32:56
                                                  So 23/36 recent F4 teams didn't have 3+ Top 30 classes? - LamarFrazier MU - 3/9 15:43:05
                                                       Here’s Virginia’s 4 classes that made up their title team - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/9 15:54:41
                                                            okay so that's 1 out of 36. You said majority of F4 teams - LamarFrazier MU - 3/9 15:56:28
                                                                 You can go through the rest. - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/9 16:03:55
                                                                      We'd find your claim is laughably wrong, of course. - LamarFrazier MU - 3/9 16:05:42
                                                                           You would find the emphasis on class ranking - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/9 16:10:13
     Recruiting is about momentum - FIJItiger MU - 3/9 13:36:36
          20 wins/season is totes mediocre. - Lakers_Ball UK - 3/9 15:15:09
               Neither of you know the definition of mediocre - zoomer 99 - 3/9 16:14:18




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