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Sweden has fewer deaths per million than Belgium, Spain,
Posted on: May 23, 2020 at 22:09:54 CT
JeffB MU
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France, Italy and the UK among others and has not shut their country down. They are in 8th place in that category, but they expected that they would have more earlier on than the countries that shut down and had most of their population quarantined for weeks or months.
The stated goal in the US was to avoid overloading the hospitals... to flatten the curve. Their models had the same numbers of people infected, hospitalized and dying over time UNLESS they overloaded the medical delivery system. Most of the world has done that... but so has Sweden, and again, they didn't shut their country down. That is huge.
The economic costs are mind boggling. The number of unemployed and the number of businesses likely to go bankrupt have skyrocketed. People are losing homes & getting kicked out of apartments. More will have that happen as time goes on. The number of suicides has jumped a lot as well and domestic violence, drinking and drug use have also gone up significantly.
One estimate is an additional 75,000 suicides this year because of the shutdown. A couple of California doctors said they have had 4 times the number of suicides compared to a normal year and say that the stress on the communities is showing up in the hospitals.
There have also been increases in people who haven't gone to the doctor or hospitals for issues they would normally head in for. People have apparently even had strokes and minor heart attacks but haven't gotten them checked out because they didn't think it was serious enough to be considered "essential". How many additional people will die because they haven't had their colonoscopies, pap smears, breast exams and normal check ups among other things. I know a guy who has been treated multiple times for skin cancer & thinks he has a couple of new areas but hasn't been able to get an appointment to have them checked out.
It's also a little silly to look at the number of deaths per million early on in an epidemic and proclaim one strategy superior to another based upon that alone. Sweden may have more now, but they also undoubtedly have more "herd immunity" which will likely help them later on after other countries open up to something more along the lines of the Swedish model. It may be like the old commercial, "You can pay me now, or you can pay me later."
The stated goal in the US was to avoid overloading the hospitals... to flatten the curve. Their models had the same numbers of people infected, hospitalized and dying over time UNLESS they overloaded the medical delivery system. Most of the world has done that... but so has Sweden, and again, they didn't shut their country down. That is huge.
The economic costs are mind boggling. The number of unemployed and the number of businesses likely to go bankrupt have skyrocketed. People are losing homes & getting kicked out of apartments. More will have that happen as time goes on. The number of suicides has jumped a lot as well and domestic violence, drinking and drug use have also gone up significantly.
One estimate is an additional 75,000 suicides this year because of the shutdown. A couple of California doctors said they have had 4 times the number of suicides compared to a normal year and say that the stress on the communities is showing up in the hospitals.
There have also been increases in people who haven't gone to the doctor or hospitals for issues they would normally head in for. People have apparently even had strokes and minor heart attacks but haven't gotten them checked out because they didn't think it was serious enough to be considered "essential". How many additional people will die because they haven't had their colonoscopies, pap smears, breast exams and normal check ups among other things. I know a guy who has been treated multiple times for skin cancer & thinks he has a couple of new areas but hasn't been able to get an appointment to have them checked out.
It's also a little silly to look at the number of deaths per million early on in an epidemic and proclaim one strategy superior to another based upon that alone. Sweden may have more now, but they also undoubtedly have more "herd immunity" which will likely help them later on after other countries open up to something more along the lines of the Swedish model. It may be like the old commercial, "You can pay me now, or you can pay me later."
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Sweden has fewer deaths per million than Belgium, Spain, - JeffB MU - 5/23 22:09:54