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i'm a pretty hard left lean. so please explain

Posted on: September 21, 2017 at 20:45:42 CT

gmmm98 MU

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in the very simplest terms you can (remembering i'm the retarded liberal), why is socialized medicine bad?

it would be helpful, but not required, to compare and contrast aca, graham-cassidy, and socialized medicine.

i am admittedly pretty set in my ways, but this is a genuine effort to understand why/how socialized medicine (which i openly acknowledge, perhaps fallaciously, equates to a more healthy general population) is a bad thing.

i've done my best to insult myself in this post. i'm seeking genuine responses here.

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i'm a pretty hard left lean. so please explain - gmmm98 MU - 9/21 20:45:42

The problem with socialized medicine is the problem - ummmm MU - 9/22 08:21:28

Govt set price controls never work - tigerinhogtown STL - 9/22 00:27:02

my perception is that the market has already failed(nm) - gmmm98 MU - 9/22 07:03:13

Your perception is wrong. The consumer goods of medical - ummmm MU - 9/22 08:22:19

What's your personal experience with the health care system? - ScottsdaleTiger MU - 9/22 00:13:15

Keep your fvcking hands out of my pocket - SwampTiger MU - 9/21 22:04:05

so **** everybody not you? - gmmm98 MU - 9/21 22:29:32

To me, it's not all or nothing. - Zeaux MU

- 9/21 21:14:31

are your random thoughts from years ago - gmmm98 MU - 9/21 21:27:23

I'm not paying attention to what's going on with G-C - Zeaux MU

- 9/21 21:35:18

am i understanding you to believe insurers - gmmm98 MU - 9/21 21:42:54

62 percent of hospitals are nonprofit - TigerFan92 MU - 9/21 21:20:47

I wasn't aware of the 62% figure. - Zeaux MU

- 9/21 21:37:02

It was 90% plus as Christian missionaries established nearly - TigerFan92 MU - 9/21 22:02:34

It is rationing of healthcare. Period end of storry - tman KC - 9/21 21:10:49

so like, palin's death panels? - gmmm98 MU - 9/21 21:32:34

Haven't studied the new bill. You asked about - tman KC - 9/21 21:43:07

When u get sick, the gov't would decide if u should b healed - TigerFan92 MU - 9/21 21:09:03

can you compare aca v. graham cassidy here? - gmmm98 MU - 9/21 21:11:31

And before Obamacare how many died without - TigerFan92 MU - 9/21 21:15:40

man. preventative care. - gmmm98 MU - 9/21 21:19:41

Agree gov't can get involved in preventative and - TigerFan92 MU - 9/21 21:25:41

tell me more about canada v. us on innovation, please(nm) - gmmm98 MU - 9/21 21:29:32

RE: tell me more about canada v. us on innovation, please(nm) - TigerFan92 MU - 9/21 21:39:21

interesting. thanks.(nm) - gmmm98 MU - 9/22 07:27:50

Turn off CNN and think for yourself - TigerFan92 MU - 9/21 21:13:49

i came here stating very openly my biases - gmmm98 MU - 9/21 21:16:42

ok but take a 95 yr old who needs a heart transplant and - TigerFan92 MU - 9/21 21:35:12

95 yr olds don't qualify for a heart transplant - catbirdseat MU

- 9/22 06:38:41

if there is socialized medicine - gmmm98 MU - 9/21 21:55:38

currently the insurer would pay for any approved procedure - TigerFan92 MU - 9/21 22:00:13

but that example was a medicare recipient, no?(nm) - gmmm98 MU - 9/21 22:01:14

RE: but that example was a medicare recipient, no?(nm) - TigerFan92 MU - 9/21 22:04:03

Yes you did. Too bad you also didn't say you were open - tman KC - 9/21 21:30:12

i have turned on cnn once in the last calendar year - gmmm98 MU - 9/21 21:34:23

You are simple regurgitatING your instead of - tman KC - 9/21 21:46:45

this makes no sense. at all. - gmmm98 MU - 9/21 21:48:59

Actually take a minute to digest what is being said - tman KC - 9/21 21:51:57

so, i came here, openly stating my biases - gmmm98 MU - 9/21 22:00:14

I am stating you came here to pick a fight - tman KC - 9/21 22:29:04

arguing is how i best learn from opposing viewpoints - gmmm98 MU - 9/22 07:08:56

Simply put, it doesn't work. Just look at the VA. - Alferd Packer MU

- 9/21 21:05:33

VA works. - catbirdseat MU

- 9/22 06:41:24

Works for israel - JayHoaxH8r MU

- 9/21 21:20:09

Same reason socialized anything is wrong - El-ahrairah KC - 9/21 20:59:56

there are lots of bridges that don't serve my purposes - gmmm98 MU - 9/21 21:14:12

Damn. Not used to intelligent questions from a lib. - GA Tiger MU - 9/21 20:58:47

RE: Damn. Not used to intelligent questions from a lib. - o'lineydisciple MU - 9/22 08:27:50

i think tort reform is a nonstarter - gmmm98 MU - 9/21 21:09:16

Western slash and burn "medicine" in and of itself is not - Uncle Fester USMC - 9/21 20:55:03

that's an interesting comment - gmmm98 MU - 9/21 21:04:22

Who pays for it? (nm) - MIZ45 MU - 9/21 20:53:19

We cannot afford it - Spanky KU - 9/21 20:49:35

Maybe we could save money here #draintheswamp - playhard KC - 9/21 21:33:10

stay on point(nm) - gmmm98 MU - 9/21 21:47:12

obviously a very rational concern - gmmm98 MU - 9/21 20:58:08

there are definite areas to cut in the military.... - Spanky KU - 9/21 21:03:44

i cannot agree on eductation - gmmm98 MU - 9/21 21:05:54

do you think the education money is being spent well? - Spanky KU - 9/21 22:47:36

Do you think that's what we have? - El-ahrairah KC - 9/21 21:10:13

is your question "do i think we have an educated public?" - gmmm98 MU - 9/21 21:12:54

Lol - El-ahrairah KC - 9/21 21:16:24

We could cut it all and be safe - El-ahrairah KC - 9/21 21:05:50

good catch there - El-ahrairah KC - 9/21 21:02:00

Ineffective? - Spanky KU - 9/21 21:04:37

For reference - El-ahrairah KC - 9/21 21:06:53

Those were POLITICAL losses... not military - Spanky KU - 9/22 11:22:49

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