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Posted on: June 16, 2022 at 15:45:19 CT
meatiger MU
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One should either start at a position of natural rights, or err on that side as a default position.

However, we are trained that government and laws are what determines our rights as the default position...and anyone that argues for lesser laws on the side of liberty is considered crazy.
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     Two sentences - meatiger MU - 6/16 15:42:31
     "right to life may be negated or taken… " - kmawv8 MU - 6/16 14:31:42
          The problem that I have with this discussion - Mormad MU - 6/16 14:56:03
               You're struggling with the difference of positive and - kmawv8 MU - 6/16 15:04:16
          Your post is petulant but lacks logic. Rather than debate - hokie VT - 6/16 14:39:18
               It's not a distinction without a difference. - kmawv8 MU - 6/16 14:52:29
                    Property is even more difficult - Mormad MU - 6/16 14:59:06
                         Government is the biggest violators of property - meatiger MU - 6/16 15:40:40
                         Well - kmawv8 MU - 6/16 15:08:05
                              Government becomes a lot more than that - Mormad MU - 6/16 15:11:27
                                   Just because someone believes and understands - kmawv8 MU - 6/16 15:24:15
                                        It's a scale and being pro-capital punishment doesn't - Mormad MU - 6/16 15:29:11
                                             Perhaps I'm being too black and white, but I can't imagine - kmawv8 MU - 6/16 15:35:37
                                                  or at the very least - meatiger MU - 6/16 15:45:19
                                                       due to indoctrination by government school systems (nm) - ashtray UF - 6/16 16:49:44
                                                       You see some of those arguments being made - Mormad MU - 6/16 16:14:02
                                                            liberals are relaxing drug laws - meatiger MU - 6/16 16:35:25
                                   Settling disputes or punishment of infringements - kmawv8 MU - 6/16 15:18:33
                                        Do you even have rights if you can't exercise them? What - hokie VT - 6/16 15:27:24
                                             You are completely and utterly clueless. - kmawv8 MU - 6/16 15:33:22
               RE: Your post is petulant but lacks logic. Rather than debate - Panthera MU - 6/16 14:40:16
                    This board is certainly much richer for your participation. - hokie VT - 6/16 14:42:55
                         I know - Panthera MU - 6/16 14:50:40
     Lol - Panthera MU - 6/16 14:30:10




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