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Frank Haith in 2011-2012 would fit your second example

Posted on: March 2, 2022 at 16:24:41 CT
Fire Marshall Bill STL
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Cuonzo wouldn't

The best players on those tournament teams, CM signed.
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The agenda-driven clown below says CM has made the Tourney - zounami MU - 3/2 15:48:03
     No question Missouri has struggled since the Big XII - alstl MU - 3/2 20:12:07
     He has had some bizarre luck - Genco98 MU - 3/2 20:02:04
     One and done doesn't make a tourney success unless you're - tigertix MU - 3/2 19:16:10
     He is failing miserably with his team this year. Doesn't - Erwin Fletcher STL - 3/2 16:13:06
     He has made two, but the combined win total in those - FIJItiger MU - 3/2 15:55:01
          Not based on merit. (nm) - zounami MU - 3/2 16:01:22
               To clarify, the distinction I'm making is earned appearances - zounami MU - 3/2 16:12:18
                    Not really a fair assessment - KC rules MU - 3/2 19:16:54
               I don't understand, they were both at large bids - FIJItiger MU - 3/2 16:11:34
                    ha, I anticipated this follow-up question... - zounami MU - 3/2 16:13:04
                         I guess I don't understand the distinction. Regardless in a - FIJItiger MU - 3/2 16:17:56
                              You don't understand the concept of earning something?... - zounami MU - 3/2 16:22:56
                                   Cuonzo inherited the worst rebuild in modern bb history - FIJItiger MU - 3/2 16:47:35
                                        RE: Cuonzo inherited the worst rebuild in modern bb history - Indian creek tiger MU - 3/2 21:20:45
                                             Agree, we will be returned to very close the same cratered - FIJItiger MU - 3/3 07:50:10
                                        Not with the Porter windfall. (nm) - zounami MU - 3/2 17:05:52
                                             That all happened after Cuonzo was hired by MU - FIJItiger MU - 3/2 17:08:53
                                                  Oh c'mon. The Porters were coming here regardless of - zounami MU - 3/2 17:12:56
                                                       But Cuonzo was hired, and Cuonzo hired their dad - FIJItiger MU - 3/2 17:16:16
                                                            Anybody not named Kim was going to get the Porters - alwaysright MU - 3/2 19:07:57
                                                            The Porter deal was pre-arranged by Sterk. (nm) - zounami MU - 3/2 17:31:02
                                   Frank Haith in 2011-2012 would fit your second example - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 3/2 16:24:41
                                        Signed but didn't recruit. And the '20-21 team wasn't even - zounami MU - 3/2 16:30:48
                                             move them goalposts, son - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 3/2 16:32:23
                                                  you don't know what that phrase means, evidently (nm) - zounami MU - 3/2 16:34:58
                                                       you're redefining what a tournament team is - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 3/2 16:43:13
                                                            Tournament-CALIBER team... - zounami MU - 3/2 16:46:10
                         the head coach had little to do with the success of the - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 3/2 16:14:24
                              Correct... As I explained, the success of those teams was - zounami MU - 3/2 16:16:38
                                   CM didn't get the Porters? - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 3/2 16:17:28
                                        Nope. He had nothing to do with their recruitment... - zounami MU - 3/2 16:19:17
                                             LOL - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 3/2 16:20:18
                                                  yeah, no counterpoint (nm) - zounami MU - 3/2 16:23:05
                                                       Nick Saban deserves no credit for his winning at Bama - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 3/2 16:26:49
                                                            That's a non sequitur. If you were trying to make a - zounami MU - 3/2 16:28:41
                                                                 you better edit this - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 3/2 16:34:21
                                                                      I've admitted I overestimated CM's potential. I wanted Muss - zounami MU - 3/2 16:36:34
                                                                           LOL- you forgot to get this one - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 3/2 16:50:04
                                                                                You sure about that?... - zounami MU - 3/2 16:55:27
                                                                                     "overwhelming top candidate" - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 3/2 16:56:35
                                                                                          it was my final analysis after fully researching and vetting - zounami MU - 3/2 17:04:34
                                                                                               you completed your final analysis of 2017 candidates - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 3/2 17:06:12
                                                                                                    See, you're making stuff up again... - zounami MU - 3/2 17:06:47
                                                                           remember when you edited a post four years later - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 3/2 16:45:49
                                                                                You're making things up now... - zounami MU - 3/2 16:52:06
                                                                                     oh, then why edit a four year old post? - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 3/2 16:53:10
                                                                                          It's funny how you spend your time searching the archives - zounami MU - 3/2 16:58:23
                                                                                               why did you edit a four year old post?(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 3/2 17:02:19
                                                                                                    if you cherry pick a post from years ago to take it out of - zounami MU - 3/2 17:05:04
                                                                                                         ah, the ol "I didn it just to **** with you" card - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 3/2 17:09:57
                                                                                                              keep searching the archives, bro (nm) - zounami MU - 3/2 17:13:21
                                                                           RE: I've admitted I overestimated CM's potential. I wanted Muss - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 3/2 16:44:15
                                                                                Now that one is definitely taken out of context... - zounami MU - 3/2 17:00:24
     Him saying 2-3 and you saying 0-5 both seem to be agenda - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 3/2 15:52:33
          The irony is that, if not for COVID, it would be 1 out of 5. - zounami MU - 3/2 16:00:58
               Disagree. Maybe having a somewhat experienced team - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 3/2 16:39:41
                    We most definitely had a huge advantage at the start of last - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/2 16:59:18
                         correct (nm) - zounami MU - 3/2 17:07:57
                         I think that is akin to narratives like the 2011-12 team - FIJItiger MU - 3/2 17:02:08
                              Why did the team gradually worsen over the course of the - zounami MU - 3/2 17:08:33
                                   Lots of reasons/factors - FIJItiger MU - 3/2 17:12:36
                                        Tilmon's grandma? Damn. Talk about a reach. - zounami MU - 3/2 17:15:13
                                             You don't recall Tilmon taking a leave of absence ? (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 3/2 17:20:50
                                                  It was brief, and around the middle of the season IIRC. (nm) - zounami MU - 3/2 17:32:55
                    Why did the team get progressively worse over the course - zounami MU - 3/2 16:41:22
     This sounds like you have an agenda saying 0 of 5 - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/2 15:51:22
          I said based on actual merit. On paper, it's 2 out of 5... - zounami MU - 3/2 15:52:09
               Both times were based on merit - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/2 16:09:57
                    We would not have made the tournament last year had - alwaysright MU - 3/2 16:23:43
                         Covid impacted Mizzou as well(nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/2 18:20:40
                              Covid had a net zero to positive impact on Mizzou - alwaysright MU - 3/2 18:39:08
                                   It impacted all teams. (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/2 19:29:06
                         correct (nm) - zounami MU - 3/2 16:24:01
                    In terms of CM earning a bid. I clarified this above... - zounami MU - 3/2 16:15:24
                         That’s an agenda - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/2 16:20:15
                              No, because I'm qualifying my position w/ "earned" and - zounami MU - 3/2 16:26:38
                                   Mizzou should have been a 7 seed last season - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/2 16:29:48
                                        How so? It wasn't even an NIT-caliber team by the end of - zounami MU - 3/2 16:32:03
                                             The committee usually uses Net ratings - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/2 18:19:12




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