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Posted on: September 19, 2021 at 15:46:54 CT
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... are a competitive Power Conference without cache.

BYU is the closest thing, because they have a national brand and the last National Championship in modern times.

Competitively, the 12 new schools are better than the PAC12 overall today, but that isn't likely to continue. The Pac12 has brand power in the conference.

And once UCF, Cincy, Houston and BYU are all playing tougher conference games, they wont have as many Top 25 teams as it shows today.

They are also at the mercy of the 4 conference ahead of them -- if they decide to expand, it could be game over for Big 12. But honestly, if the Big 4 were to expand... it would be the SEC and or/Big 10 picking off the ACC and PAC12, Notre Dame, before they would go to the Big 12.

The ACC or Pac 12 could theoretically first strike to take Big 12 teams, but it won't move the needle, so isn't likely.

The schools in the Big 12 should be happy - they get to keep their P5 status and a major brand conference. And someone in that group will dominate the next 20-30 years and possibly become a Blue Blood for the first time.

It wasn't going to happen in the previous setup, but now it almost assuredly will happen... and some of those schools are going to grow a very good brand that will eventually be attractive to a P4 or P2 conference.

I'm kinda rooting for Oklahoma State because of Gundy. I also always liked Kansas State because of what Bill Snyder did.

Edited by North co-co champs at 15:47:21 on 09/19/21
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     no (nm) - pickle MU - 9/20 06:47:39
     No, the Pac 12 schools are more significant than the Big 12 - ScottsdaleTiger MU - 9/19 18:27:21
          Thats a long way of saying the PAC has more 'state flagship' - zounami MU - 9/19 18:32:40
     zounami!! - Genco98 MU - 9/19 17:29:01
     They might win more football games, but they will never be - alwaysright MU - 9/19 16:19:58
          Would you rather win games or vicariously live through - zoomer 99 - 9/19 16:59:21
               That’s not the point at all. - alwaysright MU - 9/19 17:22:11
     RE: Anybody else think with the new additions to the Big 12 - sarasotatiger MU - 9/19 16:17:56
     They have zero Blue Bloods, so essentially they.... - North co-co champs MU - 9/19 15:46:54
     YES, but The P12 will be making an extra $15 mil a year - BurgTiger MU - 9/19 14:52:30
     I do. None of them will be a true contender any time soon - lqf2b8 MU - 9/19 14:36:47
          RE: I do. None of them will be a true contender any time soon - MOCO SON MU - 9/19 17:12:40
          They haven’t had a national championship since 05 - El-ahrairah BAMA - 9/19 14:58:07
               Schools that haven't won an NC as recently as Texas... - zounami MU - 9/19 17:15:42
               How many schools *have* had a natty since 2005? (nm) - zounami MU - 9/19 17:04:12
                    ...only 7 schools, and Texas also reached the NCG in 2010 (nm) - zounami MU - 9/19 17:07:17
          Quality of the league got better?... They lost two of the - zounami MU - 9/19 14:41:26
               The Longhorns were a cancer - JimD MU - 9/19 14:56:03
                    Whether to add Houston or Memphis was a close call, but... - zounami MU - 9/19 16:57:02
                    The Sooners & Longhorns fed them. (nm) - zounami MU - 9/19 16:49:21
     Almost all the b12 teams r 2nd-5th string in home state - Beakerbasher KC - 9/19 14:36:27
     They might have better teams at the moment, but they - jlbomega MU - 9/19 14:29:27
          Bingo. When comparing *schools/programs* instead of current - zounami MU - 9/19 14:38:26
     No. Theyre not P5 anymore. - coolbean MU - 9/19 14:24:19
          P5 Status is determined by a conference's status in NCAA - ScottsdaleTiger MU - 9/19 16:46:39
               I think you are very mixed up - Genco98 MU - 9/19 17:45:45
                    There's an "autonomous 5" that he's conflating with the - zounami MU - 9/19 18:14:22
               No. To the vast majority of CFB fans, "Power Conference" is - zounami MU - 9/19 16:59:08




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