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Sure you can. And the only firing-specific cost you listed
Posted on: July 24, 2021 at 15:57:05 CT
zounami
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is the buyout of CM and his staff, which would be small potatoes.
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Is counzo’s leash shorter with OU and UT joining
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ZouMiz
STL
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7/23 15:20:40
He should have already been fired
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Johnny Utah
MU
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7/24 09:44:51
No, but if next season is a disaster then it's time. (nm)
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zounami
MU
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7/24 11:47:07
The upcoming season will be the ultimate crapshoot in bball
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KC rules
MU
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7/24 14:51:55
I bet this season isn’t a disaster
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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7/24 13:13:31
btw, I hope you're right that we're competitive in the SEC (nm)
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zounami
MU
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7/24 13:49:28
What’s competitive?
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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7/24 14:11:48
8th or better is competitive, IMO (nm)
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zounami
MU
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7/24 15:55:59
So expectations don’t actually match the investment
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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7/24 16:00:41
No, which is why we should invest in a new coach...
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zounami
MU
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7/24 21:56:02
Then you are investing in more than just the coach
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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7/24 22:15:39
Cuonzo landed 5-stars at Cal on a much lower budget...
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zounami
MU
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7/24 22:34:40
You really believe that
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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7/24 22:42:25
$6M is chump change these days, especially if the SEC
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zounami
MU
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7/24 13:48:38
You can’t wait until May to make that move.
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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7/24 14:09:49
Sure you can. And the only firing-specific cost you listed
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zounami
MU
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7/24 15:57:05
Waiting until May sets the next coach up for failure
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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7/24 15:59:54
Not if you're smart about it. (nm)
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zounami
MU
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7/24 21:56:41
May is too late for recruiting
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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7/24 22:18:41
Not if you're smart about it. (nm)
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zounami
MU
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7/24 22:37:28
There is no smart way to do it that late
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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7/24 22:43:44
Nobody cares anymore. nm.
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MUTGR
MU
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7/23 22:21:15
false (nm)
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zounami
MU
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7/24 07:14:07
Missouri will only play them once a season.
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alstl
MU
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7/23 21:37:02
UT hiring Beard could make them a force to contend with
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KC rules
MU
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7/23 21:14:09
Beard might be able to get Texas on the level
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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7/23 21:52:55
Yes and that includes football. How the
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GA Tiger
MU
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7/23 16:15:29
Longer. With a budget of 15 out of 16
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zoomer
99
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7/23 16:15:21
The beaker weighs in again. (nm)
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zounami
MU
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7/23 16:25:31
You think he'll have a short leash to finish at the bottom?
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zoomer
99
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7/23 16:42:50
We need the basketball version of Drink. That's the simplest
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zounami
MU
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7/23 17:04:54
...Eric Musselman, for example, is who we should have hired
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zounami
MU
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7/23 17:05:47
Oats would gave been better that year (nm)
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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7/23 18:20:43
Oats might to be better but it was too early to hire him in
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alwaysright
MU
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7/23 21:00:04
That’s what Mizzou has to do.
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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7/23 21:48:57
no (nm)
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zounami
MU
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7/23 18:31:25
Why not? Hes been better than Muss.
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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7/23 18:34:39
Musselman would do even better at MU, if Mike Anderson's
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zounami
MU
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7/23 19:03:23
Bumps him down another notch or two.
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alwaysright
MU
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7/23 16:14:09
Yes, because the buyout would no longer be an issue with our
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zounami
MU
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7/23 15:27:45
Still the same
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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7/23 15:22:15
What would stop us from firing him if the upcoming season
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zounami
MU
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7/23 15:29:55
I don’t think it will be the disaster that you think
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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7/23 15:33:07
Hold on. How much does it cost to fire CM on May 2, 2022 ? (nm)
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zounami
MU
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7/23 15:42:12
$6 million beginning 5/1/21
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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7/23 15:43:46
First of all, that's NOTHING if we're getting an extra $10M+
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zounami
MU
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7/23 15:46:40
I don’t see Mizzou putting all of that extra money into hoop
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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7/23 15:49:40
It wouldn't take "all of it", barely half in fact. (nm)
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zounami
MU
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7/23 16:25:11
You have to hire a new coach in addition to
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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7/23 16:28:14
Yeah but you'll have to do that eventually anyway. (nm)
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zounami
MU
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7/23 16:33:41
I guess with $1.5 million less to spend per year
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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7/23 21:51:08
This is bad for our BB program just 2 more schools we
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thytiger
MU
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7/23 15:27:19
Not to mention how much harder its going to be to make
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thytiger
MU
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7/23 15:44:18
No, this would make it EASIER to make the tournament. (nm)
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zounami
MU
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7/23 15:47:06
Does the AD really want to win big? (nm)
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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7/23 15:29:58
No, they want to be mediocre. Brilliant question. (nm)
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zounami
MU
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7/23 15:30:19
Where’s the commitment then? (nm)
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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7/23 15:33:33
We doubled CM's salary at Cal. At the time, it was a top 20
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zounami
MU
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7/23 15:43:43
HC isn’t the problem.
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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7/23 15:48:01
RE: HC isn’t the problem.
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Georgia Tiger
MU
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7/24 05:55:46
Ok I disagree with that premise.
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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7/24 09:16:34
Of course it is, just like it was in football. (nm)
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zounami
MU
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7/23 15:48:27
Then it’s been the problem for 4 straight coaches.
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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7/23 15:51:09
Half of those coaches reached the Elite 8 (nm)
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zounami
MU
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7/23 16:25:55
Which one made it second time?
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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7/23 16:30:44
Quin and MA were good hires. Haith was okay...
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zounami
MU
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7/23 16:37:32
Good coaches that were limited by the AD
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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7/23 16:46:47
Really?... Mike Anderson did better here than anywhere else
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zounami
MU
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7/23 17:06:42
And a better relationship with the AD might
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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7/23 17:10:46
He thrived at MU. Nothing held him back here...
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zounami
MU
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7/23 17:11:36
And the relationship with the AD
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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7/23 17:13:08
No. Arkansas was his dream job. (nm)
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zounami
MU
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7/23 17:21:32
That’s possible, UNC was a big enough draw for Roy Williams
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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7/23 17:24:33
All of the coaching hires could have been
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alwaysright
MU
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7/23 16:22:04
So Mizzou has just hired the wrong coaches to every time
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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7/23 16:24:45
Anderson, Haith, Kim, Martin were all the wrong hire.
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alwaysright
MU
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7/23 21:02:00