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UT hiring Beard could make them a force to contend with

Posted on: July 23, 2021 at 21:14:09 CT
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This will be a critical year for Martin. But it's also a very unusual year for college basketball across the board given the transfer rules changing so I think Martin will be more likely to get the benefit of the doubt if we have a poor year.

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Is counzo’s leash shorter with OU and UT joining - ZouMiz STL - 7/23 15:20:40
     He should have already been fired - Johnny Utah MU - 7/24 09:44:51
          No, but if next season is a disaster then it's time. (nm) - zounami MU - 7/24 11:47:07
               The upcoming season will be the ultimate crapshoot in bball - KC rules MU - 7/24 14:51:55
               I bet this season isn’t a disaster - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/24 13:13:31
                    btw, I hope you're right that we're competitive in the SEC (nm) - zounami MU - 7/24 13:49:28
                         What’s competitive? - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/24 14:11:48
                              8th or better is competitive, IMO (nm) - zounami MU - 7/24 15:55:59
                                   So expectations don’t actually match the investment - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/24 16:00:41
                                        No, which is why we should invest in a new coach... - zounami MU - 7/24 21:56:02
                                             Then you are investing in more than just the coach - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/24 22:15:39
                                                  Cuonzo landed 5-stars at Cal on a much lower budget... - zounami MU - 7/24 22:34:40
                                                       You really believe that - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/24 22:42:25
                    $6M is chump change these days, especially if the SEC - zounami MU - 7/24 13:48:38
                         You can’t wait until May to make that move. - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/24 14:09:49
                              Sure you can. And the only firing-specific cost you listed - zounami MU - 7/24 15:57:05
                                   Waiting until May sets the next coach up for failure - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/24 15:59:54
                                        Not if you're smart about it. (nm) - zounami MU - 7/24 21:56:41
                                             May is too late for recruiting - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/24 22:18:41
                                                  Not if you're smart about it. (nm) - zounami MU - 7/24 22:37:28
                                                       There is no smart way to do it that late - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/24 22:43:44
     Nobody cares anymore. nm. - MUTGR MU - 7/23 22:21:15
          false (nm) - zounami MU - 7/24 07:14:07
     Missouri will only play them once a season. - alstl MU - 7/23 21:37:02
     UT hiring Beard could make them a force to contend with - KC rules MU - 7/23 21:14:09
          Beard might be able to get Texas on the level - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/23 21:52:55
     Yes and that includes football. How the - GA Tiger MU - 7/23 16:15:29
     Longer. With a budget of 15 out of 16 - zoomer 99 - 7/23 16:15:21
          The beaker weighs in again. (nm) - zounami MU - 7/23 16:25:31
               You think he'll have a short leash to finish at the bottom? - zoomer 99 - 7/23 16:42:50
                    We need the basketball version of Drink. That's the simplest - zounami MU - 7/23 17:04:54
                         ...Eric Musselman, for example, is who we should have hired - zounami MU - 7/23 17:05:47
                              Oats would gave been better that year (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/23 18:20:43
                                   Oats might to be better but it was too early to hire him in - alwaysright MU - 7/23 21:00:04
                                        That’s what Mizzou has to do. - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/23 21:48:57
                                   no (nm) - zounami MU - 7/23 18:31:25
                                        Why not? Hes been better than Muss. - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/23 18:34:39
                                             Musselman would do even better at MU, if Mike Anderson's - zounami MU - 7/23 19:03:23
     Bumps him down another notch or two. - alwaysright MU - 7/23 16:14:09
     Yes, because the buyout would no longer be an issue with our - zounami MU - 7/23 15:27:45
     Still the same - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/23 15:22:15
          What would stop us from firing him if the upcoming season - zounami MU - 7/23 15:29:55
               I don’t think it will be the disaster that you think - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/23 15:33:07
                    Hold on. How much does it cost to fire CM on May 2, 2022 ? (nm) - zounami MU - 7/23 15:42:12
                         $6 million beginning 5/1/21 - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/23 15:43:46
                              First of all, that's NOTHING if we're getting an extra $10M+ - zounami MU - 7/23 15:46:40
                                   I don’t see Mizzou putting all of that extra money into hoop - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/23 15:49:40
                                        It wouldn't take "all of it", barely half in fact. (nm) - zounami MU - 7/23 16:25:11
                                             You have to hire a new coach in addition to - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/23 16:28:14
                                                  Yeah but you'll have to do that eventually anyway. (nm) - zounami MU - 7/23 16:33:41
                                                       I guess with $1.5 million less to spend per year - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/23 21:51:08
          This is bad for our BB program just 2 more schools we - thytiger MU - 7/23 15:27:19
               Not to mention how much harder its going to be to make - thytiger MU - 7/23 15:44:18
                    No, this would make it EASIER to make the tournament. (nm) - zounami MU - 7/23 15:47:06
               Does the AD really want to win big? (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/23 15:29:58
                    No, they want to be mediocre. Brilliant question. (nm) - zounami MU - 7/23 15:30:19
                         Where’s the commitment then? (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/23 15:33:33
                              We doubled CM's salary at Cal. At the time, it was a top 20 - zounami MU - 7/23 15:43:43
                                   HC isn’t the problem. - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/23 15:48:01
                                        RE: HC isn’t the problem. - Georgia Tiger MU - 7/24 05:55:46
                                             Ok I disagree with that premise. - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/24 09:16:34
                                        Of course it is, just like it was in football. (nm) - zounami MU - 7/23 15:48:27
                                             Then it’s been the problem for 4 straight coaches. - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/23 15:51:09
                                                  Half of those coaches reached the Elite 8 (nm) - zounami MU - 7/23 16:25:55
                                                       Which one made it second time? - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/23 16:30:44
                                                            Quin and MA were good hires. Haith was okay... - zounami MU - 7/23 16:37:32
                                                                 Good coaches that were limited by the AD - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/23 16:46:47
                                                                      Really?... Mike Anderson did better here than anywhere else - zounami MU - 7/23 17:06:42
                                                                           And a better relationship with the AD might - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/23 17:10:46
                                                                                He thrived at MU. Nothing held him back here... - zounami MU - 7/23 17:11:36
                                                                                     And the relationship with the AD - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/23 17:13:08
                                                                                          No. Arkansas was his dream job. (nm) - zounami MU - 7/23 17:21:32
                                                                                               That’s possible, UNC was a big enough draw for Roy Williams - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/23 17:24:33
                                                  All of the coaching hires could have been - alwaysright MU - 7/23 16:22:04
                                                       So Mizzou has just hired the wrong coaches to every time - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/23 16:24:45
                                                            Anderson, Haith, Kim, Martin were all the wrong hire. - alwaysright MU - 7/23 21:02:00




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