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Posted on: July 23, 2021 at 17:10:46 CT
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Have resulted in him staying. He looked like he was on the cusp of a major breakthrough at Mizzou.

Following his big year he had a class of Pressey, Ratliffe and Mitchell. A better compliance staff and Mitchell makes it to Mizzou.
Then he had Otto Porter and but in the bag before he left.

The best result for both sides would have been him staying.
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Is counzo’s leash shorter with OU and UT joining - ZouMiz STL - 7/23 15:20:40
     He should have already been fired - Johnny Utah MU - 7/24 09:44:51
          No, but if next season is a disaster then it's time. (nm) - zounami MU - 7/24 11:47:07
               The upcoming season will be the ultimate crapshoot in bball - KC rules MU - 7/24 14:51:55
               I bet this season isn’t a disaster - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/24 13:13:31
                    btw, I hope you're right that we're competitive in the SEC (nm) - zounami MU - 7/24 13:49:28
                         What’s competitive? - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/24 14:11:48
                              8th or better is competitive, IMO (nm) - zounami MU - 7/24 15:55:59
                                   So expectations don’t actually match the investment - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/24 16:00:41
                                        No, which is why we should invest in a new coach... - zounami MU - 7/24 21:56:02
                                             Then you are investing in more than just the coach - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/24 22:15:39
                                                  Cuonzo landed 5-stars at Cal on a much lower budget... - zounami MU - 7/24 22:34:40
                                                       You really believe that - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/24 22:42:25
                    $6M is chump change these days, especially if the SEC - zounami MU - 7/24 13:48:38
                         You can’t wait until May to make that move. - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/24 14:09:49
                              Sure you can. And the only firing-specific cost you listed - zounami MU - 7/24 15:57:05
                                   Waiting until May sets the next coach up for failure - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/24 15:59:54
                                        Not if you're smart about it. (nm) - zounami MU - 7/24 21:56:41
                                             May is too late for recruiting - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/24 22:18:41
                                                  Not if you're smart about it. (nm) - zounami MU - 7/24 22:37:28
                                                       There is no smart way to do it that late - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/24 22:43:44
     Nobody cares anymore. nm. - MUTGR MU - 7/23 22:21:15
          false (nm) - zounami MU - 7/24 07:14:07
     Missouri will only play them once a season. - alstl MU - 7/23 21:37:02
     UT hiring Beard could make them a force to contend with - KC rules MU - 7/23 21:14:09
          Beard might be able to get Texas on the level - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/23 21:52:55
     Yes and that includes football. How the - GA Tiger MU - 7/23 16:15:29
     Longer. With a budget of 15 out of 16 - zoomer 99 - 7/23 16:15:21
          The beaker weighs in again. (nm) - zounami MU - 7/23 16:25:31
               You think he'll have a short leash to finish at the bottom? - zoomer 99 - 7/23 16:42:50
                    We need the basketball version of Drink. That's the simplest - zounami MU - 7/23 17:04:54
                         ...Eric Musselman, for example, is who we should have hired - zounami MU - 7/23 17:05:47
                              Oats would gave been better that year (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/23 18:20:43
                                   Oats might to be better but it was too early to hire him in - alwaysright MU - 7/23 21:00:04
                                        That’s what Mizzou has to do. - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/23 21:48:57
                                   no (nm) - zounami MU - 7/23 18:31:25
                                        Why not? Hes been better than Muss. - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/23 18:34:39
                                             Musselman would do even better at MU, if Mike Anderson's - zounami MU - 7/23 19:03:23
     Bumps him down another notch or two. - alwaysright MU - 7/23 16:14:09
     Yes, because the buyout would no longer be an issue with our - zounami MU - 7/23 15:27:45
     Still the same - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/23 15:22:15
          What would stop us from firing him if the upcoming season - zounami MU - 7/23 15:29:55
               I don’t think it will be the disaster that you think - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/23 15:33:07
                    Hold on. How much does it cost to fire CM on May 2, 2022 ? (nm) - zounami MU - 7/23 15:42:12
                         $6 million beginning 5/1/21 - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/23 15:43:46
                              First of all, that's NOTHING if we're getting an extra $10M+ - zounami MU - 7/23 15:46:40
                                   I don’t see Mizzou putting all of that extra money into hoop - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/23 15:49:40
                                        It wouldn't take "all of it", barely half in fact. (nm) - zounami MU - 7/23 16:25:11
                                             You have to hire a new coach in addition to - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/23 16:28:14
                                                  Yeah but you'll have to do that eventually anyway. (nm) - zounami MU - 7/23 16:33:41
                                                       I guess with $1.5 million less to spend per year - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/23 21:51:08
          This is bad for our BB program just 2 more schools we - thytiger MU - 7/23 15:27:19
               Not to mention how much harder its going to be to make - thytiger MU - 7/23 15:44:18
                    No, this would make it EASIER to make the tournament. (nm) - zounami MU - 7/23 15:47:06
               Does the AD really want to win big? (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/23 15:29:58
                    No, they want to be mediocre. Brilliant question. (nm) - zounami MU - 7/23 15:30:19
                         Where’s the commitment then? (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/23 15:33:33
                              We doubled CM's salary at Cal. At the time, it was a top 20 - zounami MU - 7/23 15:43:43
                                   HC isn’t the problem. - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/23 15:48:01
                                        RE: HC isn’t the problem. - Georgia Tiger MU - 7/24 05:55:46
                                             Ok I disagree with that premise. - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/24 09:16:34
                                        Of course it is, just like it was in football. (nm) - zounami MU - 7/23 15:48:27
                                             Then it’s been the problem for 4 straight coaches. - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/23 15:51:09
                                                  Half of those coaches reached the Elite 8 (nm) - zounami MU - 7/23 16:25:55
                                                       Which one made it second time? - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/23 16:30:44
                                                            Quin and MA were good hires. Haith was okay... - zounami MU - 7/23 16:37:32
                                                                 Good coaches that were limited by the AD - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/23 16:46:47
                                                                      Really?... Mike Anderson did better here than anywhere else - zounami MU - 7/23 17:06:42
                                                                           And a better relationship with the AD might - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/23 17:10:46
                                                                                He thrived at MU. Nothing held him back here... - zounami MU - 7/23 17:11:36
                                                                                     And the relationship with the AD - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/23 17:13:08
                                                                                          No. Arkansas was his dream job. (nm) - zounami MU - 7/23 17:21:32
                                                                                               That’s possible, UNC was a big enough draw for Roy Williams - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/23 17:24:33
                                                  All of the coaching hires could have been - alwaysright MU - 7/23 16:22:04
                                                       So Mizzou has just hired the wrong coaches to every time - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/23 16:24:45
                                                            Anderson, Haith, Kim, Martin were all the wrong hire. - alwaysright MU - 7/23 21:02:00




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