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Best way to establish expectations is to look at history

Posted on: June 16, 2021 at 09:04:32 CT
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Then try to incrementally improve over time.

A lot of you hold Mizzou to the standard Norm had Mizzou at from 80-91. I think that’s the goal to get to, but there are steps that you have to go through to get there.
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Another dismal look at MU bb in the SEC - FIJItiger MU - 6/15 12:34:13
     Simple solution... return to our home conference... - ClassicTiger MU - 6/16 14:56:32
          RE: you're an idiot! Our 'home' conference, that screwed us - 77TIGER MU - 6/17 16:16:54
     Yeah just read it at rock M nation its sad but true. This - thytiger MU - 6/15 17:41:43
          Drink will guarantee it.....nm - tigertix MU - 6/16 10:00:50
          Maybe we do suck (nm) - samclemens MU - 6/15 21:59:54
          I think the make or break is 22-23 - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/15 17:48:53
               Like this year...never mind....nm - tigertix MU - 6/16 13:03:30
               ^^ I agree. - Nazfan MU - 6/16 08:16:29
               make or break was last year but we can keep putting it off - alwaysright MU - 6/15 21:37:50
                    Agree, that already happened. It did not - FIJItiger MU - 6/16 08:18:47
                    How was last year a break year? (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/15 21:46:45
                         The team fell apart and did not meet the potential they - alwaysright MU - 6/15 22:25:28
                              I thought I was more positive about the potential - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/15 22:29:05
                                   Really? You are one of the most negative posters on here - FIJItiger MU - 6/16 08:44:45
                                        You don’t like me bringing up Mizzou’s - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/16 08:56:21
                                             Doesn't bother me, but you always do it in the most negative - FIJItiger MU - 6/16 09:01:10
                                                  It's to set low expectations & hope Cuonzo exceeds those & - Sigma MU - 6/16 09:21:02
                                                       No. It’s just an understanding of where Mizzou is - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/16 09:26:39
                                                            Clearly you don't recognize backward steps! - Sigma MU - 6/16 10:42:55
                                                  Best way to establish expectations is to look at history - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/16 09:04:32
                                                       Nope, just pre-2014. MU's expectations should be - FIJItiger MU - 6/16 12:07:00
                                                            I posted below what Mizzou did from 95 to current - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/16 12:11:53
                                                                 Haven't read it yet, but I know what MU was 1995-current - FIJItiger MU - 6/16 12:13:56
                                                       If a legit recruit read your posts he'd think Mizzou - Newcatbirdseat MU - 6/16 09:14:48
                                                            That has been what Mizzou has done the last 27 years - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/16 09:25:06
                                                                 No, it would have worked if Cuonzo would have - Newcatbirdseat MU - 6/16 09:32:12
                                                                      Getting great recruits doesn’t create the momentum - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/16 09:39:25
                                                                           Mizzou went from one of the worst teams available - Newcatbirdseat MU - 6/16 10:34:22
                                                                                I never said that Mizzou hadn’t ever been a good program - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/16 10:40:41
                                                                                     A good coach won't do "basically the same thing." - Newcatbirdseat MU - 6/16 10:42:53
                                                                                          Ok well I saw it with Pinkel, Odom, Quin, MA, and Haith - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/16 10:48:55
                                                                                               Using past trends to predict future outcomes, pretty much - Newcatbirdseat MU - 6/16 10:53:02
                                                                                                    It’s funny you do that with the coaches you have decided - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/16 10:58:29
                                                                                                         There is nothing in Cuonzo's history to indicate that he - Newcatbirdseat MU - 6/16 11:06:04
                                                                                                              Mizzou’s last 25 years says the same thing - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/16 11:07:45
                                                                                                                   The Cuonzo era may be real fun for you, but I actually - Newcatbirdseat MU - 6/16 11:09:11
                                                                                                                        You probably haven’t had much fun the last 25 years - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/16 11:12:21
                                                                                                                             You have a very selective memory. Prior to Kim and CM - DHighlander NWMSU - 6/16 11:27:19
                                                                                                                                  2 of those 8 seasons were good - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/16 11:28:50
                                                                                                                                       You are comparing CMs best seasons to the worst of other - DHighlander NWMSU - 6/16 11:49:00
                                                                                                                                            So you would take an NIT team over a NCAA tournament team? - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/16 11:52:34
                                                                                                                                                 The NIT team was FHs worst team and you want to compare - DHighlander NWMSU - 6/16 12:09:03
                                                                                                                                                      So what’s your realistic plan to get Mizzou - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/16 12:13:07
                                                                                                                                                           Competent coach. That is the one and only thing required to - DHighlander NWMSU - 6/16 12:20:35
                                                                                                                                                                Hiring a new coach is step one, but to be fair we - FIJItiger MU - 6/16 12:59:06
                                                                                                                                                                Then you have to wait 2 years for this one to fail - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/16 12:24:32
                                   A senior laden team in Martin’s 4th year had to do better. - alwaysright MU - 6/16 08:17:33
                                        Mizzou has done that 5 times in the last 27 seasons - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/16 08:33:40
                                             Comment on Cuonzo yrs. not others. - Sigma MU - 6/16 09:21:54
               I think the make or break Should have been 20-21(nm) - DHighlander NWMSU - 6/15 17:49:38
                    Then with the tournament appearance it was made. - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/15 17:51:45
                         Barry Odom was fired after four years the last three of - DHighlander NWMSU - 6/15 18:15:23
                              What’s Mizzou doing if making the tournament - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/15 21:46:19
                                   RE: What’s Mizzou doing if making the tournament - SEMO_Hillbilly UMKC - 6/16 07:46:45
                                   That's one of your problems. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 6/15 22:51:06
                                        Right I haven’t ever seen the great version of Mizzou - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/15 22:56:00
                                             You weren't here to see MA and QS take teams to the elite 8? - DHighlander NWMSU - 6/16 10:09:57
                                                  I would rather see Mizzou build a sustainable program - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/16 10:16:38
                                                       How often do you see a bottom dweller have a top 5 - DHighlander NWMSU - 6/16 10:45:52
                                                            If by botched you mean forced his 2 stars - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/16 10:50:22
                                                                 Jontay was not injured year one. Barnett and Kass - DHighlander NWMSU - 6/16 11:07:00
                                                                      That 2nd class was the foundation of last season - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/16 11:10:27
                                                                           Ninth best eh. You seem to have left out the middle step. - DHighlander NWMSU - 6/16 11:33:34
                                                                                I chose steps in the process of getting to that final goal - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/16 11:40:14
                                                                                     This season was NOT a step forward. When you have a - DHighlander NWMSU - 6/16 11:52:54
                                                                                          Ok I disagree (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/16 11:57:24
                                                                                               Please explain how this season was a step forward. - DHighlander NWMSU - 6/16 12:11:13
                                                                                                    Made the tournament. Made some philosophical - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/16 12:15:43
     The Alden/KY/Norm/Sundvold legacy of failure....nm - tigertix MU - 6/15 17:08:48
          agree, Norm got outcoached frequently in the SEC - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 6/15 21:24:10
               They got KY hired, Alden was a punnk-ass...nm - tigertix MU - 6/16 09:57:47
     Drink's recruiting momentum will put some pressure on - Erwin Fletcher STL - 6/15 14:32:27
          Hopefully it does. I have doubts that it’s really - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/15 14:37:05
               Drink went .500 in conference and landed some nice recruits - zoomer 99 - 6/15 15:33:59
                    "some nice recruits" = MU's highest ranked class of all time - zounami MU - 6/15 15:38:46
                         (and Drink didn't have to give 7-figure contracts to their - zounami MU - 6/15 15:39:48
                         You're right, CM landed the highest-ever class at MU - zoomer 99 - 6/15 15:39:30
                              CM didn't "land" the Porter class, a 7-figure contract for - zounami MU - 6/15 15:47:09
                                   link? (nm) - zoomer 99 - 6/15 15:54:01
                                        You know how people know when you're making stuff up? - zoomer 99 - 6/15 15:54:38
                                             He’s right, everyone does know it.(nm) - *M* KC - 6/15 18:05:37
                                                  Wait - I thought he hired MPSr because of his mad skills! - Newcatbirdseat MU - 6/15 19:19:16
                                                       You think nobody else offered MPSr a job? - zoomer 99 - 6/15 20:06:56
                                                            So you now agree that Zounami's not 'making stuff up?' (nm) - Newcatbirdseat MU - 6/16 08:35:14
               2021 was our highest-ranked class of all-time in FB... - zounami MU - 6/15 15:19:46
               Except 11th in the SEC was good for 28th nationally - Missiurifarmboy MU - 6/15 15:18:15
                    Where’s the spin? I said I hope he’s right - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/15 16:23:38
                    ranked even higher by Rivals... and 2022 is on pace to be - zounami MU - 6/15 15:34:37
     why do we need to find deeper analysis to show we have - TigerA MU - 6/15 12:56:24
          I think the point of that series is what - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/15 12:58:35
               granted i didn't read it but how long does it take to - TigerA MU - 6/15 13:00:54
                    That can't be the answer - FIJItiger MU - 6/15 13:51:12
                         Why not? - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/15 14:13:52
                              Lost way too much momentum - FIJItiger MU - 6/15 14:21:04
                                   Dru wasn’t even the first - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/15 14:28:35
                    How do you put yourself in position - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/15 13:06:11
     KA cratered & CM is treading water. Wow! - Sigma MU - 6/15 12:39:03
     Exactly what you'd expect from a 12th-place budget - zoomer 99 - 6/15 12:36:48
          We need to pay players more? - tigerfans3 MU - 6/16 08:19:17
          We probably have a 12th place budget in football - Tiger Tim MU - 6/15 21:01:31
          Where did our football budget slot among the SEC in - FIJItiger MU - 6/15 13:53:55
               What does that have to do with my post? - zoomer 99 - 6/15 14:14:06
                    RE: What does that have to do with my post? - SEMO_Hillbilly UMKC - 6/16 07:52:32
                    Trying to figure out an angle that could generate - FIJItiger MU - 6/15 14:24:48
                         lol the way you write is hilarious - zoomer 99 - 6/15 14:45:05
                              Glad you are able to derive entertainment from it (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 6/15 15:13:03
          But the 7th highest paid head coach. I think we can see - DHighlander NWMSU - 6/15 12:47:06
               CM doesn't allocate the MU AD's budget (nm) - zoomer 99 - 6/15 13:39:31
                    I'm pretty sure he negotiated his salary AND budget. - DHighlander NWMSU - 6/15 14:23:49




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