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Lost way too much momentum

Posted on: June 15, 2021 at 14:21:04 CT

FIJItiger MU

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It would take an unbelievable set of circumstances for a player of Tilmon's caliber to elect to sign with our program at this point, very unlikely that you get a 5th year senior 1st team all SEC caliber player as an incoming transfer from a lower level, or even that we would be able to attract a player of Mark Smith's caliber. Those type of options are essentially or nearly off the table at this point, and that assumes holding on to all of them till they mature to seniors.

Even assuming incremental on the court progress he is probably 4 or 5 years away from being able to realistically recruit at that level given all the recruiting momentum he has lost.

Edited by FIJItiger at 14:21:39 on 06/15/21

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Another dismal look at MU bb in the SEC - FIJItiger MU

- 6/15 12:34:13

Simple solution... return to our home conference... - ClassicTiger MU - 6/16 14:56:32

RE: you're an idiot! Our 'home' conference, that screwed us - 77TIGER MU - 6/17 16:16:54

Yeah just read it at rock M nation its sad but true. This - thytiger MU - 6/15 17:41:43

Drink will guarantee it.....nm - tigertix MU - 6/16 10:00:50

Maybe we do suck (nm) - samclemens MU

- 6/15 21:59:54

I think the make or break is 22-23 - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/15 17:48:53

Like this year...never mind....nm - tigertix MU - 6/16 13:03:30

^^ I agree. - Nazfan MU - 6/16 08:16:29

make or break was last year but we can keep putting it off - alwaysright MU - 6/15 21:37:50

Agree, that already happened. It did not - FIJItiger MU

- 6/16 08:18:47

How was last year a break year? (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/15 21:46:45

The team fell apart and did not meet the potential they - alwaysright MU - 6/15 22:25:28

I thought I was more positive about the potential - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/15 22:29:05

Really? You are one of the most negative posters on here - FIJItiger MU

- 6/16 08:44:45

You don’t like me bringing up Mizzou’s - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/16 08:56:21

Doesn't bother me, but you always do it in the most negative - FIJItiger MU

- 6/16 09:01:10

It's to set low expectations & hope Cuonzo exceeds those & - Sigma MU - 6/16 09:21:02

No. It’s just an understanding of where Mizzou is - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/16 09:26:39

Clearly you don't recognize backward steps! - Sigma MU - 6/16 10:42:55

Best way to establish expectations is to look at history - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/16 09:04:32

Nope, just pre-2014. MU's expectations should be - FIJItiger MU

- 6/16 12:07:00

I posted below what Mizzou did from 95 to current - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/16 12:11:53

Haven't read it yet, but I know what MU was 1995-current - FIJItiger MU

- 6/16 12:13:56

If a legit recruit read your posts he'd think Mizzou - Newcatbirdseat MU - 6/16 09:14:48

That has been what Mizzou has done the last 27 years - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/16 09:25:06

No, it would have worked if Cuonzo would have - Newcatbirdseat MU - 6/16 09:32:12

Getting great recruits doesn’t create the momentum - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/16 09:39:25

Mizzou went from one of the worst teams available - Newcatbirdseat MU - 6/16 10:34:22

I never said that Mizzou hadn’t ever been a good program - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/16 10:40:41

A good coach won't do "basically the same thing." - Newcatbirdseat MU - 6/16 10:42:53

Ok well I saw it with Pinkel, Odom, Quin, MA, and Haith - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/16 10:48:55

Using past trends to predict future outcomes, pretty much - Newcatbirdseat MU - 6/16 10:53:02

It’s funny you do that with the coaches you have decided - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/16 10:58:29

There is nothing in Cuonzo's history to indicate that he - Newcatbirdseat MU - 6/16 11:06:04

Mizzou’s last 25 years says the same thing - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/16 11:07:45

The Cuonzo era may be real fun for you, but I actually - Newcatbirdseat MU - 6/16 11:09:11

You probably haven’t had much fun the last 25 years - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/16 11:12:21

You have a very selective memory. Prior to Kim and CM - DHighlander NWMSU - 6/16 11:27:19

2 of those 8 seasons were good - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/16 11:28:50

You are comparing CMs best seasons to the worst of other - DHighlander NWMSU - 6/16 11:49:00

So you would take an NIT team over a NCAA tournament team? - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/16 11:52:34

The NIT team was FHs worst team and you want to compare - DHighlander NWMSU - 6/16 12:09:03

So what’s your realistic plan to get Mizzou - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/16 12:13:07

Competent coach. That is the one and only thing required to - DHighlander NWMSU - 6/16 12:20:35

Hiring a new coach is step one, but to be fair we - FIJItiger MU

- 6/16 12:59:06

Then you have to wait 2 years for this one to fail - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/16 12:24:32

A senior laden team in Martin’s 4th year had to do better. - alwaysright MU - 6/16 08:17:33

Mizzou has done that 5 times in the last 27 seasons - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/16 08:33:40

Comment on Cuonzo yrs. not others. - Sigma MU - 6/16 09:21:54

I think the make or break Should have been 20-21(nm) - DHighlander NWMSU - 6/15 17:49:38

Then with the tournament appearance it was made. - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/15 17:51:45

Barry Odom was fired after four years the last three of - DHighlander NWMSU - 6/15 18:15:23

What’s Mizzou doing if making the tournament - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/15 21:46:19

RE: What’s Mizzou doing if making the tournament - SEMO_Hillbilly UMKC - 6/16 07:46:45

That's one of your problems. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 6/15 22:51:06

Right I haven’t ever seen the great version of Mizzou - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/15 22:56:00

You weren't here to see MA and QS take teams to the elite 8? - DHighlander NWMSU - 6/16 10:09:57

I would rather see Mizzou build a sustainable program - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/16 10:16:38

How often do you see a bottom dweller have a top 5 - DHighlander NWMSU - 6/16 10:45:52

If by botched you mean forced his 2 stars - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/16 10:50:22

Jontay was not injured year one. Barnett and Kass - DHighlander NWMSU - 6/16 11:07:00

That 2nd class was the foundation of last season - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/16 11:10:27

Ninth best eh. You seem to have left out the middle step. - DHighlander NWMSU - 6/16 11:33:34

I chose steps in the process of getting to that final goal - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/16 11:40:14

This season was NOT a step forward. When you have a - DHighlander NWMSU - 6/16 11:52:54

Ok I disagree (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/16 11:57:24

Please explain how this season was a step forward. - DHighlander NWMSU - 6/16 12:11:13

Made the tournament. Made some philosophical - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/16 12:15:43

The Alden/KY/Norm/Sundvold legacy of failure....nm - tigertix MU - 6/15 17:08:48

agree, Norm got outcoached frequently in the SEC - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 6/15 21:24:10

They got KY hired, Alden was a punnk-ass...nm - tigertix MU - 6/16 09:57:47

Drink's recruiting momentum will put some pressure on - Erwin Fletcher STL - 6/15 14:32:27

Hopefully it does. I have doubts that it’s really - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/15 14:37:05

Drink went .500 in conference and landed some nice recruits - zoomer 99 - 6/15 15:33:59

"some nice recruits" = MU's highest ranked class of all time - zounami MU - 6/15 15:38:46

(and Drink didn't have to give 7-figure contracts to their - zounami MU - 6/15 15:39:48

You're right, CM landed the highest-ever class at MU - zoomer 99 - 6/15 15:39:30

CM didn't "land" the Porter class, a 7-figure contract for - zounami MU - 6/15 15:47:09

link? (nm) - zoomer 99 - 6/15 15:54:01

You know how people know when you're making stuff up? - zoomer 99 - 6/15 15:54:38

He’s right, everyone does know it.(nm) - *M* KC - 6/15 18:05:37

Wait - I thought he hired MPSr because of his mad skills! - Newcatbirdseat MU - 6/15 19:19:16

You think nobody else offered MPSr a job? - zoomer 99 - 6/15 20:06:56

So you now agree that Zounami's not 'making stuff up?' (nm) - Newcatbirdseat MU - 6/16 08:35:14

2021 was our highest-ranked class of all-time in FB... - zounami MU - 6/15 15:19:46

Except 11th in the SEC was good for 28th nationally - Missiurifarmboy MU - 6/15 15:18:15

Where’s the spin? I said I hope he’s right - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/15 16:23:38

ranked even higher by Rivals... and 2022 is on pace to be - zounami MU - 6/15 15:34:37

why do we need to find deeper analysis to show we have - TigerA MU - 6/15 12:56:24

I think the point of that series is what - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/15 12:58:35

granted i didn't read it but how long does it take to - TigerA MU - 6/15 13:00:54

That can't be the answer - FIJItiger MU

- 6/15 13:51:12

Why not? - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/15 14:13:52

Lost way too much momentum - FIJItiger MU

- 6/15 14:21:04

Dru wasn’t even the first - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/15 14:28:35

How do you put yourself in position - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/15 13:06:11

KA cratered & CM is treading water. Wow! - Sigma MU - 6/15 12:39:03

Exactly what you'd expect from a 12th-place budget - zoomer 99 - 6/15 12:36:48

We need to pay players more? - tigerfans3 MU - 6/16 08:19:17

We probably have a 12th place budget in football - Tiger Tim MU - 6/15 21:01:31

Where did our football budget slot among the SEC in - FIJItiger MU

- 6/15 13:53:55

What does that have to do with my post? - zoomer 99 - 6/15 14:14:06

RE: What does that have to do with my post? - SEMO_Hillbilly UMKC - 6/16 07:52:32

Trying to figure out an angle that could generate - FIJItiger MU

- 6/15 14:24:48

lol the way you write is hilarious - zoomer 99 - 6/15 14:45:05

Glad you are able to derive entertainment from it (nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 6/15 15:13:03

But the 7th highest paid head coach. I think we can see - DHighlander NWMSU - 6/15 12:47:06

CM doesn't allocate the MU AD's budget (nm) - zoomer 99 - 6/15 13:39:31

I'm pretty sure he negotiated his salary AND budget. - DHighlander NWMSU - 6/15 14:23:49