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In gay marriage the argument was not about denying

Posted on: March 17, 2021 at 09:28:57 CT
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science and pretending someone is something they are not.

If we are going to do that with male/female, what stops us from jumping species?
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PROOF about social constructs. Pseudo science created by - hokie VT - 3/17 08:32:19
     “Sorry stupid, trees existed before they were named by peopl - pickle MU - 3/17 08:58:44
          lol (nm) - kmawv8 MU - 3/17 08:59:04
               he’s dumb and doesn’t read (nm) - pickle MU - 3/17 09:19:41
     Social constructs exist - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/17 08:51:18
     If you can't understand a basic fact that race and - kmawv8 MU - 3/17 08:49:30
          Then you need to explain why, for example, - GA Tiger MU - 3/17 09:00:48
               a genetic population does not equate to biological race (nm) - pickle MU - 3/17 09:05:17
               I don't need to do anything of the sort. - kmawv8 MU - 3/17 09:04:14
                    You need to, to justify your point - if I understand it. - GA Tiger MU - 3/17 09:16:37
                         stated like a true demlib. Good job, GAT (nm) - ashtray UF - 3/17 09:41:41
                         go watch tv, GAT (nm) - pickle MU - 3/17 09:25:33
                         No I don't. The fact that gender is a social construct - kmawv8 MU - 3/17 09:21:35
                         You don’t understand anything - Panthera MU - 3/17 09:19:23
          Is gender or gender roles the construct? - tcat KC - 3/17 08:54:59
               No, there's a difference between sex and gender. - kmawv8 MU - 3/17 08:58:11
                    Yeah by you. Gender is just a naming of a sex - tcat KC - 3/17 09:02:06
                         no (nm) - pickle MU - 3/17 09:19:58
                              What is the name of the sex of a organism - tcat KC - 3/17 09:26:34
                                   Sex =/= gender (nm) - pickle MU - 3/17 09:28:57
                                        Gender is just a name assigned to the sex - tcat KC - 3/17 09:35:14
                                             No, that’s incorrect (nm) - pickle MU - 3/17 09:38:06
                         This I believe to be true(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/17 09:08:38
                         No - kmawv8 MU - 3/17 09:03:20
                              Seems the concept of gender was constructed and contrived - hokie VT - 3/17 09:12:50
                                   You just perfectly ascribed the whole gender construct - meatiger MU - 3/17 09:19:16
                                   Gender was constructed long befroe - kmawv8 MU - 3/17 09:15:10
                                        consider the group here denying this (nm) - pickle MU - 3/17 09:26:52
                                             Or, for sane people, consider - DesertTiger MU - 3/17 10:33:02
                                                  advocating what? (nm) - pickle MU - 3/17 10:43:33
                              So if a guy wants to take on the roles of a woman, do it - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/17 09:10:59
                                   You have made excellent points in this thread. If a man - hokie VT - 3/17 09:30:50
                                        It is very clear - a social construct does not change - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/17 09:32:40
                                             Science is a social construct (nm) - pickle MU - 3/17 09:38:41
                                   Language is a social construct - pickle MU - 3/17 09:27:51
                                   Probably dependent on how far they go - meatiger MU - 3/17 09:13:31
                                        No, it doesn't - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/17 09:16:50
                                             so F'n what(nm) - meatiger MU - 3/17 09:18:10
                                                  So don't ask me to call a man a woman or vice versa - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/17 09:20:05
                                                       Go ahead - meatiger MU - 3/17 09:21:04
                                                            Does he not have the right to be bigoted ?(nm) - tcat KC - 3/17 09:29:12
                                                                 I said..."that is fine"(nm) - meatiger MU - 3/17 09:29:39
                                                            How is it bigoted? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/17 09:22:40
                                   I can't believe so many of you are so willfully ignorant. - kmawv8 MU - 3/17 09:13:10
                                        They don't believe the definitions - meatiger MU - 3/17 09:16:43
                                             Yes, when you normalize abnormal behavior you will get more - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/17 09:25:17
                                                  So..if your child felt a different way - meatiger MU - 3/17 09:28:20
                                                       If my child had a mental illness I would get them help to - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/17 09:46:33
                                                            yep..that parent that forces their kids to fit the mold - meatiger MU - 3/17 09:48:45
                                                                 As opposed to the parent who changes their child's sex on a - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/17 10:13:56
                                                                      Every person is different - meatiger MU - 3/17 10:16:59
                                                                           Every person is indeed different, but here is reality - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/17 10:19:24
                                                                                Where did I ever say - meatiger MU - 3/17 10:28:37
                                             I am actually holding to the definitions - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/17 09:20:52
                                                  no..you are holding to the definition of sex(nm) - meatiger MU - 3/17 09:21:36
                                                       And male/female is sex - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/17 09:23:49
                                                            So if you met a person - meatiger MU - 3/17 09:26:07
                                                                 I know such a person - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/17 09:27:35
                                                                      good that he knows you are a bigot(nm) - meatiger MU - 3/17 09:28:54
                                                                           There is nothing bigoted about science meat(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/17 09:30:20
                                                            Gender as a social construct is more than just a role. - kmawv8 MU - 3/17 09:25:11
                                                                 No, it is pretty much an assumed role and it does not - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/17 09:26:54
                                        And that is fine - what I say is crazy is that we are - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/17 09:14:30
                                             no, it's a man taking on a woman's role - ashtray UF - 3/17 09:49:12
                                             Why do you care so much? - meatiger MU - 3/17 09:17:48
                                                  Same reason I would not call Phil Benji if he told me he - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/17 09:18:36
                                                       Why do you have to keep bringing up completely different - meatiger MU - 3/17 09:20:20
                                                            Because if we are denying what we definitively know about - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/17 09:21:56
                                                                 this was the same argument used to oppose gay marriage - meatiger MU - 3/17 09:23:20
                                                                      No, but it would have been had the argument for gay marriage - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/17 09:25:07
                                                                           that was not my point - meatiger MU - 3/17 09:27:02
                                                                                In gay marriage the argument was not about denying - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/17 09:28:57
                                                                                     nobody is doing that with male/female (nm) - ashtray UF - 3/17 09:50:28
                                                                                     lol(nm) - meatiger MU - 3/17 09:30:23
                                                                                          And not surprising that is your response as there is - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/17 09:31:06
                                                                                               because it is stupidity - meatiger MU - 3/17 09:33:46
                                                                                                    Then refute me scientifically - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/17 09:35:34
                                                                                                         It has been said many times - meatiger MU - 3/17 09:36:56
                                                                                                              Re-read the path you took and the argument I made meat - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/17 09:39:10
                                                                                                                   What have I changed? - meatiger MU - 3/17 09:42:10
                                                                                                                        But that still does not change whether they are male - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/17 09:47:07
                                                                                                                             your analogies are just downright horrible - meatiger MU - 3/17 09:50:12
                                             IMO, you can call whomever you like whatever you like - kmawv8 MU - 3/17 09:17:39
                                                  Gender may be a social construct, but assuming the role does - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/17 09:19:38
                                                       may be? It absolutely 100% is a social construct. - kmawv8 MU - 3/17 09:22:32
                                                            So fine, but assuming the role of a female does not make you - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/17 09:25:47
                                                                 what is the "role of a female" - ashtray UF - 3/17 09:52:10
                                                                 That's because there is more involved in gender than - kmawv8 MU - 3/17 09:29:05
                                                                      It does not matter what a man assumes by way of gender - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/17 09:31:44
                                                       Given we now have hormone therapy and operations - meatiger MU - 3/17 09:22:23
                                                            One's sex can be masked - cannot be changed - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/17 09:33:22
                                                                 so what - meatiger MU - 3/17 09:34:20
                                                                      You just claimed sex can be changed - no it cannot - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/17 09:40:17
                                                                           agree with you - meatiger MU - 3/17 09:43:20
                                                                                And too many have taken that name to mean it can be - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/17 09:44:59
                                                                                     no (nm) - ashtray UF - 3/17 09:53:09
                                                                                     he is a "male"(nm) - meatiger MU - 3/17 09:45:32
          So I am about as white as I can be - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/17 08:52:10
               No, that's not how social constructs work (nm) - kmawv8 MU - 3/17 08:53:59
                    So how is race a social construct in the same way a man - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/17 08:54:46
                         Read the article (nm) - pickle MU - 3/17 09:24:13
                         Having white skin is a fact. - kmawv8 MU - 3/17 09:01:19
                              How is the white race a social construct? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/17 09:08:15
                                   Define the elements of race - pickle MU - 3/17 09:24:51
                                   Because people make assumptions about people - meatiger MU - 3/17 09:12:02
                                        But taking on the assumed role of another group does not - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/17 09:13:01
                                             female isn't a gender (nm) - ashtray UF - 3/17 10:02:47
                                             And if that person feels more comfortable in that role - meatiger MU - 3/17 09:14:37
                                                  And they can do so, but that does not make a man a - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/17 09:34:10
                                                       yet..it bothers you tremendously(nm) - meatiger MU - 3/17 09:37:40
                                                            Facts don't bother me - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/17 09:44:16
                                                                 they just confuse you - ashtray UF - 3/17 10:03:18
     On topics such as this I do not want to hear from political - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/17 08:42:56
          this isn’t hard science - pickle MU - 3/17 09:11:08
          Very true. A few years ago I had a discussion with someone - hokie VT - 3/17 08:54:48
               economics has nothing to do with political partisanship - pickle MU - 3/17 09:07:22




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