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Posted on: May 5, 2020 at 22:13:11 CT
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effect on slowing it down... or herd immunity was kicking in to a significant extent.

The UK's about face seemed to have belatedly had an effect.

Sweden's milder social distancing seems to have elevated their infection and death rates compared to most other countries, but not drastically, and they are not the worst at deaths per million.

South Dakota's lack of a shutdown hasn't seemed to hurt them, but they are a pretty rural state.

Austria's mandate of masks seems to have had a significant effect on dropping the transmission rate and death rate.

One hospital's mandate of masks for all of their staff dropped the internal infection rate in half from what I remember.

The evidence seems inconclusive to me, just from a semi-cursory review of the info available to us, but social distancing & lock downs seem to help... but by how much... and is it worth the significant costs... not the least of which is the suspension of the most basic of constitutional rights.
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The Failed Experiment of Social Distancing - ummmm MU - 5/5 20:52:57
     NO ONE ever SAID - JG MU - 5/6 02:01:43
     Julie Kelly the gal who teaches cooking and blogs-lol(nm) - miz_zou MU - 5/5 21:04:41
          Link? Would it really matter? (nm) - JeffB MU - 5/5 21:11:31
               Yes, that dumb woman needs to get back in the kitchen and - ummmm MU - 5/5 21:14:38
          This is a good example of an ad hominem. - ummmm MU - 5/5 21:08:18
               Yes, she’s a partisan hack with no scientific background who - miz_zou MU - 5/5 21:14:08
                    Do you have the ability to discuss her facts or give details - JeffB MU - 5/5 21:34:29
                    Her article is pointing out a lack of science. It's not - ummmm MU - 5/5 21:16:08
                         Source it, you will find out for yourself. All you seem - miz_zou MU - 5/5 21:29:12
                              You haven't addressed a single one of her contentions. How - JeffB MU - 5/5 21:39:03
                                   Using number of cases - meatiger MU - 5/5 21:41:51
                                        Her point was what effect the experts said that the lockdown - JeffB MU - 5/5 21:47:45
                                             Right. After 6 weeks of social distancing, if social - ummmm MU - 5/5 21:54:51
                                                  It was quasi-social distancing - meatiger MU - 5/5 21:56:27
                                                       I dunno. Businesses closed, the roads nearly empty for - JeffB MU - 5/5 22:06:33
                                                            Yet - meatiger MU - 5/5 22:13:59
                                                       Can you divorce the exceptions and the enforcement - ummmm MU - 5/5 21:59:28
                                                            It does seem that Italy's strong measures had a marked - JeffB MU - 5/5 22:13:11
                                                                 None of that is science. There is nothing to draw from it. - ummmm MU - 5/5 22:18:12
                                                                      I think scientists could/would work with that data, though - JeffB MU - 5/5 22:25:16
                                                                           This is perfectly stated. (nm) - ummmm MU - 5/5 22:37:51
                                                                           Science should be used to dessiminate - meatiger MU - 5/5 22:29:51
                                                                 RE: It does seem that Italy's strong measures had a marked - meatiger MU - 5/5 22:16:09
                                                                      So many unknowns, yet so little reluctance to enter - ummmm MU - 5/5 22:20:59
                                                                           RE: So many unknowns, yet so little reluctance to enter - meatiger MU - 5/5 22:22:30
                                                            The closest you can come - meatiger MU - 5/5 22:05:10
                                                                 it wasn't effective and you're not going to get people - 90Tiger STL - 5/5 22:09:44
                                                                      I was talking abou tthe science - meatiger MU - 5/5 22:11:51
                                                                           There's no science behind social distancing. - ummmm MU - 5/5 22:16:06
                                                                                The science is around probabilities - meatiger MU - 5/5 22:20:59
                                                                                     Yes, you cannot control people. - ummmm MU - 5/5 22:24:28
                                                                                          I think in many ways - meatiger MU - 5/5 22:28:26
                                                                                               and we don't even know the scope of the consequences to come - JeffB MU - 5/5 23:05:27
                                                                                                    RE: and we don't even know the scope of the consequences to come - meatiger MU - 5/5 23:11:49
                                                                                                         We had a big bubble here BEFORE the Fed lowered rates - JeffB MU - 5/5 23:20:02
                                                                                               Never let a crisis go to waste. (nm) - ummmm MU - 5/5 22:38:10
                                                                                                    true...unfortunately(nm) - meatiger MU - 5/5 22:39:03
                                             But the number of cases (positive tests) - meatiger MU - 5/5 21:53:59
                              Wow. Quite the deflection. - ummmm MU - 5/5 21:34:39
                                   If you sourced rather than accept everything as fact - miz_zou MU - 5/5 21:40:26
                                        Alright, I sourced the five references in her article. - ummmm MU - 5/5 21:51:12
                                        Not to hijack, but I’m a science believer. I’d like to - Emoji Man MSU - 5/5 21:46:43
                                             Tump should be a socialist - meatiger MU - 5/5 21:55:23
                                        Which facts do you dispute exactly? Do you disbelieve this - JeffB MU - 5/5 21:42:11




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