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False premise. They do line up. Why do you believe that they

Posted on: December 26, 2018 at 23:43:56 CT
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https://ronconte.wordpress.com/2012/06/04/the-day-of-the-crucifixion-friday-nisan-14/

The Passover meal is eaten after sunset on Nisan 14. But since the Jewish day begins at sundown, the meal is eaten at the start of Nisan 15. When Nisan 14 falls on a Friday, the meal is eaten on Friday, after sunset (which the Jews consider to be the start of Saturday).

John’s Gospel implies that Jesus died on a Friday, by saying:

{19:31} Then the Jews, because it was the preparation day, so that the bodies would not remain upon the cross on the Sabbath (for that Sabbath was a great day), they petitioned Pilate in order that their legs might be broken, and they might be taken away.

The Sabbath (Saturday, beginning Friday at sunset) was a great day because it was both the Sabbath (Saturday) and the first day of Passover (Nisan 15). This implies that Jesus died on Friday, Nisan 14, before sunset.

The synoptic Gospels do not contradict this chronology. They each and all assert that Jesus died on a Friday, at the start of Passover. However, an apparent contradiction results from the fact that Jesus and His disciples at the Passover meal the previous evening, on Thursday after sunset (which technically is the start of Friday in the Jewish calendar). The assumption is made that Jesus ate the Passover on Nisan 14, but this is never stated by the synoptics. There is no contradiction or error in any of the Gospels on this point of chronology, if Jesus ate the Passover a day earlier than most Jews.
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There is no contradiction between the synoptic Gospels and the Gospel of John. Jesus and His disciples celebrated the Passover meal a day early, on Thursday evening. Divine Providence arranged events so that Jesus could both celebrate the Passover supper with His disciples on Thursday evening and also be the Passover Lamb sacrificed on the Cross on Friday. Only those who are lacking in faith will believe that any part of Sacred Scripture could ever be in error.

Therefore, Jesus was crucified on Friday, Nisan 14, before sunset. He ate the Passover meal on the previous evening (Thursday), which the Jews consider to be the same day (Friday), since their day begins at sunset.
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While the Good Feel of Christmas is a great testament - raskolnikov MU - 12/26 20:56:02
     Good Friday & Easter which don't line up with Jesus' - TigerMatt MU - 12/26 23:12:34
          Holiday switches were part of recruiting, it seems(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/27 08:03:47
          RE: Good Friday & Easter which don't line up with Jesus' - Alferd Packer MU - 12/26 23:57:18
          False premise. They do line up. Why do you believe that they - JeffB MU - 12/26 23:43:56
               I get a kick out of the line "Divine Providence arrange" - raskolnikov MU - 12/27 08:07:26
          SHhhh don't tell Alfred or Refugee or Jeff (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 12/26 23:20:20
     Stupid, gullible pseudo-intellectual bs. - Alferd Packer MU - 12/26 21:37:36
          Lol, I bet that made you feel good (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 12/26 21:48:58
               Well, it was accurate - FootballRefugee MU - 12/26 22:13:23
                    It ain't - MrBlueSky MU - 12/26 23:21:24
                         Your repeating it doesn't make it true - FootballRefugee MU - 12/27 08:25:48
          LOL you are so deluded - JG A - 12/26 21:47:36
               First mentioned in the 4th century, but Christians - JeffB MU - 12/26 23:19:08
                    RE: First mentioned in the 4th century, but Christians - pickle MU - 12/26 23:31:37
                         'In Old Norse poetry, the word is often employed as a - JeffB MU - 12/26 23:51:51
                              There were "saints" in Palestine --- ha ha ha - raskolnikov MU - 12/27 10:44:45
               Wikipedia! The moran's authoritative source. - Alferd Packer MU - 12/26 22:19:18
                    Bigotry to defend stupidity - JG A - 12/26 22:55:32
                         Dishonesty boygeorgia style. - Alferd Packer MU - 12/26 23:11:10
                              LOL - JG A - 12/26 23:18:51
          What Scriptures did "early church fathers' use? - raskolnikov MU - 12/26 21:45:31
               It was a Tradition of the early Church. Our Lord's Mother, - JeffB MU - 12/26 22:16:22
                    Come on friend` - raskolnikov MU - 12/26 22:22:53
                         You seem to misunderstand. Dating of the Gospel of John - JeffB MU - 12/26 23:29:05
                              The "John" in the story at the foot of the cross - raskolnikov MU - 12/27 08:13:54
     That whole substitution of Christmas for pagan holidays - JeffB MU - 12/26 21:34:48
          ROFLMFAO - raskolnikov MU - 12/26 21:39:42
               Historians would laugh at you, unless they felt too sorry - JeffB MU - 12/26 22:08:47
                    there is no historical record - pickle MU - 12/26 22:47:16
                         Your mind is closed. No use in trying to present evidence - JeffB MU - 12/26 23:07:17
                              you know nothing about my life - pickle MU - 12/26 23:13:27
                                   Historians would laugh in your face. I don't have to know - JeffB MU - 12/26 23:59:43
                                        You're ignorant, Jeff - pickle MU - 12/27 07:44:26
                                   Branch Davidians killed themselves because they believed - TigerMatt MU - 12/26 23:15:26
                                        BANG !!(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/27 08:15:22
                    The Bible is NOT considered a good histor source - raskolnikov MU - 12/26 22:17:14
                         The Bible is indeed itself a collection of historical - JeffB MU - 12/26 22:45:43
                              No, No, No, No - raskolnikov MU - 12/27 08:18:44
                              No contemporary historians document the existence of - TigerMatt MU - 12/26 23:04:11
                              no (nm) - pickle MU - 12/26 22:51:59
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                         The dates still don't match up... - JeffB MU - 12/26 23:04:58
                              lol - pickle MU - 12/26 23:16:59
                         Earliest observance was Jan 6---Epiphany. - Alferd Packer MU - 12/26 22:36:15
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                    So what? - raskolnikov MU - 12/26 21:21:08
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               I'm not angry at all. He is a self absorbed bore and - hefeweizen MU - 12/26 21:19:35
                    You seem to care - MrBlueSky MU - 12/26 21:44:04
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                              That is a perfect characterization!(nm) - Alferd Packer MU - 12/26 22:57:34
                              Wasn't his question - MrBlueSky MU - 12/26 21:55:42
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                                        Lol - MrBlueSky MU - 12/26 22:44:21
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                    Trust me on this boy - raskolnikov MU - 12/26 21:26:36
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                              Try reading past the subject line rather than getting all - raskolnikov MU - 12/26 21:35:17
                                   You bore me because you are a dishonest pos partisan - hefeweizen MU - 12/26 21:45:05
                                        No - raskolnikov MU - 12/26 21:53:50
                                             Sure you did. Your responses above confirmed your motive. - hefeweizen MU - 12/26 21:59:03
                                                  No talking you off the ledge(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/26 22:01:12
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                                             Lol. Please keep proving me right. Your motive was obvious. - hefeweizen MU - 12/26 22:02:45
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          You sure seem emotionally engaged(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/26 21:10:42
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