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Posted on: December 26, 2018 at 21:39:42 CT
raskolnikov MU
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Dude first off there is no significant independent historic evidence that there ever was a Jesus, but to say that this insignificant - at the time - rural preacher to the poor was certainly born on 12/25 1 BC is ludicrous.

Ancient peoples had celebrated Winter Solstice for thousands of years and to say that Christians did not saddle up with that timeline is equally ludicrous.
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While the Good Feel of Christmas is a great testament - raskolnikov MU - 12/26 20:56:02
     Good Friday & Easter which don't line up with Jesus' - TigerMatt MU - 12/26 23:12:34
          Holiday switches were part of recruiting, it seems(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/27 08:03:47
          RE: Good Friday & Easter which don't line up with Jesus' - Alferd Packer MU - 12/26 23:57:18
          False premise. They do line up. Why do you believe that they - JeffB MU - 12/26 23:43:56
               I get a kick out of the line "Divine Providence arrange" - raskolnikov MU - 12/27 08:07:26
          SHhhh don't tell Alfred or Refugee or Jeff (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 12/26 23:20:20
     Stupid, gullible pseudo-intellectual bs. - Alferd Packer MU - 12/26 21:37:36
          Lol, I bet that made you feel good (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 12/26 21:48:58
               Well, it was accurate - FootballRefugee MU - 12/26 22:13:23
                    It ain't - MrBlueSky MU - 12/26 23:21:24
                         Your repeating it doesn't make it true - FootballRefugee MU - 12/27 08:25:48
          LOL you are so deluded - JG A - 12/26 21:47:36
               First mentioned in the 4th century, but Christians - JeffB MU - 12/26 23:19:08
                    RE: First mentioned in the 4th century, but Christians - pickle MU - 12/26 23:31:37
                         'In Old Norse poetry, the word is often employed as a - JeffB MU - 12/26 23:51:51
                              There were "saints" in Palestine --- ha ha ha - raskolnikov MU - 12/27 10:44:45
               Wikipedia! The moran's authoritative source. - Alferd Packer MU - 12/26 22:19:18
                    Bigotry to defend stupidity - JG A - 12/26 22:55:32
                         Dishonesty boygeorgia style. - Alferd Packer MU - 12/26 23:11:10
                              LOL - JG A - 12/26 23:18:51
          What Scriptures did "early church fathers' use? - raskolnikov MU - 12/26 21:45:31
               It was a Tradition of the early Church. Our Lord's Mother, - JeffB MU - 12/26 22:16:22
                    Come on friend` - raskolnikov MU - 12/26 22:22:53
                         You seem to misunderstand. Dating of the Gospel of John - JeffB MU - 12/26 23:29:05
                              The "John" in the story at the foot of the cross - raskolnikov MU - 12/27 08:13:54
     That whole substitution of Christmas for pagan holidays - JeffB MU - 12/26 21:34:48
          ROFLMFAO - raskolnikov MU - 12/26 21:39:42
               Historians would laugh at you, unless they felt too sorry - JeffB MU - 12/26 22:08:47
                    there is no historical record - pickle MU - 12/26 22:47:16
                         Your mind is closed. No use in trying to present evidence - JeffB MU - 12/26 23:07:17
                              you know nothing about my life - pickle MU - 12/26 23:13:27
                                   Historians would laugh in your face. I don't have to know - JeffB MU - 12/26 23:59:43
                                        You're ignorant, Jeff - pickle MU - 12/27 07:44:26
                                   Branch Davidians killed themselves because they believed - TigerMatt MU - 12/26 23:15:26
                                        BANG !!(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/27 08:15:22
                    The Bible is NOT considered a good histor source - raskolnikov MU - 12/26 22:17:14
                         The Bible is indeed itself a collection of historical - JeffB MU - 12/26 22:45:43
                              No, No, No, No - raskolnikov MU - 12/27 08:18:44
                              No contemporary historians document the existence of - TigerMatt MU - 12/26 23:04:11
                              no (nm) - pickle MU - 12/26 22:51:59
               Winter solstice is Dec 21, give or take a day. - Alferd Packer MU - 12/26 21:46:46
                    The celebration of the winter solstice lasts/lasted days(nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 12/26 21:51:38
                         The dates still don't match up... - JeffB MU - 12/26 23:04:58
                              lol - pickle MU - 12/26 23:16:59
                         Earliest observance was Jan 6---Epiphany. - Alferd Packer MU - 12/26 22:36:15
                    It wasn't a one day sale back in ancient times, it was a - raskolnikov MU - 12/26 21:50:24
                         I know you want desperately for Xmas to be - Alferd Packer MU - 12/26 22:49:03
                              No sir. Christmas is a Christian holiday - raskolnikov MU - 12/27 10:47:15
                              Early Christians didn't. It was adopted centuries later to - TigerMatt MU - 12/26 23:20:52
     Wrong board - FootballRefugee MU - 12/26 21:11:35
          Right, b/c religion plays no role in US politics, uh huh(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/26 21:13:13
               your post had nothing to do with politics (nm) - pickle MU - 12/26 22:56:06
               RE: Right, b/c religion plays no role in US politics, uh huh(nm) - RNcaud MU - 12/26 21:14:24
                    So what? - raskolnikov MU - 12/26 21:21:08
     Nobody gives a **** about another one of your look - hefeweizen MU - 12/26 21:09:10
          So angry all the time - MrBlueSky MU - 12/26 21:11:17
               I'm not angry at all. He is a self absorbed bore and - hefeweizen MU - 12/26 21:19:35
                    You seem to care - MrBlueSky MU - 12/26 21:44:04
                         I call out his dishonest bs. His motive was self centered - hefeweizen MU - 12/26 21:47:21
                              That is a perfect characterization!(nm) - Alferd Packer MU - 12/26 22:57:34
                              Wasn't his question - MrBlueSky MU - 12/26 21:55:42
                                   Actually, it was his question - FootballRefugee MU - 12/26 22:40:31
                                        Lol - MrBlueSky MU - 12/26 22:44:21
                              Do you think Winter Break has replaced focus of xmass - raskolnikov MU - 12/26 21:52:22
                                   That's not all. Your motive became quite clear above, as - hefeweizen MU - 12/26 21:56:07
                                        Well then, no talking you off the ledge then - - raskolnikov MU - 12/26 22:00:41
                                             "widely known in any educated population" please do - hefeweizen MU - 12/26 22:04:16
                    Trust me on this boy - raskolnikov MU - 12/26 21:26:36
                         Your reply confirms my point exactly. Lol(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 12/26 21:28:30
                              Try reading past the subject line rather than getting all - raskolnikov MU - 12/26 21:35:17
                                   You bore me because you are a dishonest pos partisan - hefeweizen MU - 12/26 21:45:05
                                        No - raskolnikov MU - 12/26 21:53:50
                                             Sure you did. Your responses above confirmed your motive. - hefeweizen MU - 12/26 21:59:03
                                                  No talking you off the ledge(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/26 22:01:12
                                        Reinoiny indeed - JG A - 12/26 21:50:36
                                        Dip-weed - my comment was on how TODAY's Western - raskolnikov MU - 12/26 21:48:56
                                             Lol. Please keep proving me right. Your motive was obvious. - hefeweizen MU - 12/26 22:02:45
               RE: So angry all the time - RNcaud MU - 12/26 21:15:12
          You sure seem emotionally engaged(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/26 21:10:42
     Don't leave out Mo... - MUTGR MU - 12/26 21:01:49
          That argument that God could not have a son, let alone one - raskolnikov MU - 12/26 21:07:11
               thousands - MizzouTigerz MU - 12/26 21:19:26
                    "thousands" what?(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/26 21:22:12
                         by thousands of years. - MizzouTigerz MU - 12/26 22:11:53
                              RE: by thousands of years. - raskolnikov MU - 12/26 22:28:36
                                   RE: by thousands of years. - MizzouTigerz MU - 12/26 22:33:32
                                        Meaning WHAT ? (nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/27 08:19:52




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