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eliminates most grad transfers
Posted on: November 1, 2018 at 08:03:53 CT
wu-tangtiger
MU
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Moving On
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longtimereader
MU
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10/31 22:18:30
I thought the goal or purpose
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ASecondChance
MU
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11/1 09:01:05
Looking forward to seeing Mark play, sounds like he
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FIJItiger
MU
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11/1 08:34:11
TJ's scouting report below isn't encouraging....
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GapDaddy
MU
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11/1 09:01:57
Does TJ have a good history of evaluating BBall talent?
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Momaninil
MU
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11/1 09:37:47
So his ORTG is a lie?
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tjwheeler
UI
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11/1 10:31:44
Here is a stat. Illinois was 10-8 when Smith started. They
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Lt. J. Dangle
MU
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11/1 21:57:16
Science is a liar, sometimes.
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kcnorthside
KC
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11/1 10:49:15
So that ORTG was made up?
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tjwheeler
UI
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11/1 10:50:31
Kim English improved his ORtg almost 30 points between his
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tgr
MU
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11/1 10:55:26
Again, I agree MS will improve his 89.6
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tjwheeler
UI
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11/1 10:56:26
Science, you see,
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kcnorthside
KC
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11/1 10:53:52
So, what MS stats from last year didn't accurately
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tjwheeler
UI
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11/1 10:55:22
I'm just saying
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kcnorthside
KC
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11/1 16:22:46
True he wasn’t good last season
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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11/1 10:52:41
No one, including me, is saying he'll stay at that level.
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tjwheeler
UI
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11/1 10:53:42
Mental has a huge impact on the physical results
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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11/1 10:59:17
Oh, so if a guy just fixes the mental side then
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tjwheeler
UI
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11/1 11:03:13
He doesn’t need all of those things
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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11/1 11:06:19
So 11th worst in P5 over 18 starts was a loss of confidence?
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tjwheeler
UI
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11/1 11:09:16
Frankie Hughes had a 82.5 ORTG his freshman season
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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11/1 11:22:24
And he transferred down to Duquesne.
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tjwheeler
UI
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11/1 11:29:39
Saying it’s mental doesn’t put any blame on BU
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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11/1 11:38:39
RE: Saying it’s mental doesn’t put any blame on BU
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tjwheeler
UI
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11/1 11:42:49
SO Mark Smith's mom and dad
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ASecondChance
MU
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11/1 11:51:48
Where in my previous post did I say that?
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tjwheeler
UI
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11/1 11:59:56
It could have very well been mostly mental. It could have
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tgr
MU
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11/1 10:57:40
I value your opinion. Who would you say is better?
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GapDaddy
MU
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11/1 10:33:15
Who was better last year?
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tjwheeler
UI
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11/1 10:37:30
Thanks. Who would you say has the higher ceiling?
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GapDaddy
MU
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11/1 10:57:55
No idea about Brooks Ford.
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tjwheeler
UI
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11/1 11:04:54
I think it's probably sour grapes from him in hoping that he
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StaleyTiger
MU
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11/1 09:43:58
His freshman season is pretty comparable to Denmon's
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FIJItiger
MU
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11/1 09:51:23
Not true. Denmon's ORTG was 105.3; MS's 89.6 (nm)
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tjwheeler
UI
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11/1 10:36:10
it doesn’t take much to watch games and see
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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11/1 10:51:27
We were talking about his performance last year and not
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tjwheeler
UI
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11/1 10:54:58
It was mostly mental (nm)
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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11/1 11:00:39
You are entitled to your opinion
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tjwheeler
UI
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11/1 11:05:44
There’s no stats that can prove or disprove
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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11/1 11:08:10
I'm truly amazed at your ability to ignore all stats
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tjwheeler
UI
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11/1 11:10:04
I equate certainty with aptitude.
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GapDaddy
MU
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11/1 09:42:07
He was one of the first to identify what a great fit
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FIJItiger
MU
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11/1 09:39:44
I'm certainly wrong a lot. Just like you...
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tjwheeler
UI
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11/1 10:50:49
OK so we can scratch off BB coaching talent evaluation(nm)
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Momaninil
MU
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11/1 09:42:30
Its easy to be negatively defensive
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FIJItiger
MU
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11/1 09:45:17
He is kind of a mix between
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FIJItiger
MU
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11/1 09:14:01
People's aggravation is 100% wrapped around the fact
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alwaysright
MU
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11/1 07:30:12
It seems to me Evansville thinks more of Dru as a player
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alstl
MU
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11/1 08:05:37
As far as in relation to the quality of the rest of the
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alwaysright
MU
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11/1 18:59:19
We don't play Evansville. FYI(nm)
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Mizzmi27
MU
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11/1 08:36:15
I've read either here or PowerMizzou that Dru would be the
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tgr
MU
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11/1 08:33:35
Illinois didn't give Mark very many minutes - that's why
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alstl
MU
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11/1 10:52:43
He started 18 games
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tjwheeler
UI
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11/1 11:21:31
Mark played almost 20 minutes per game
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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11/1 10:55:29
19 minutes and 5 points a game - that's why they didn't mind
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alstl
MU
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11/1 12:11:07
Its more because of recruiting
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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11/1 12:19:34
RE: It seems to me Evansville thinks more of Dru as a player
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tjwheeler
UI
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11/1 08:18:02
Not making players sit a year will reduce transfers
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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11/1 07:39:33
Eliminate double transfers and escalate first time
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alwaysright
MU
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11/1 07:47:17
how will not sitting reduce transfers?(nm)
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SuperTone
MU
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11/1 07:46:03
eliminates most grad transfers
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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11/1 08:03:53
I could see a big improvement
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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10/31 22:57:17
Disagree
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tjwheeler
UI
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11/1 06:50:38
RE: Disagree
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GeorgiaTiger76
MU
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11/1 10:36:39
Who the hell is writing Illini? LOL(nm)
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tjwheeler
UI
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11/1 10:38:48
It is a website dedicated to discussion of Illini sports.
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GeorgiaTiger76
MU
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11/1 10:40:58
Obviously, doesn't mean it's credible.
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tjwheeler
UI
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11/1 10:43:32
One fundamental difference will be
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FIJItiger
MU
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11/1 09:35:01
Struggling is natural.
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tjwheeler
UI
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11/1 10:20:58
Agreed. I don't know how Underwood did so poorly
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kcnorthside
KC
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11/1 10:23:34
I do think Underwood failed in giving MS so many
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tjwheeler
UI
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11/1 10:24:35
Could be. Well I'm cautiously optimistic that Cuonzo can
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kcnorthside
KC
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11/1 10:28:58
LOL. MS should improve.
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tjwheeler
UI
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11/1 10:38:12
You continue to say you (tjwheeler
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ASecondChance
MU
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11/1 12:06:57
What post are you responding to?
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tjwheeler
UI
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11/1 12:27:50
Of course
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GoMizzouTigers
MU
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11/1 09:26:20
I'm quite happy. Thanks(nm)
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tjwheeler
UI
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11/1 10:22:49
He sounds like an below average athlete and player...
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GapDaddy
MU
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11/1 08:50:55
Because he had a great SR year in HS and
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tjwheeler
UI
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11/1 10:22:33
Is that why Michigan, Ohio State and Kentucky offered?
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GapDaddy
MU
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11/1 10:28:27
Yes. So, you do realize that players who are
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tjwheeler
UI
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11/1 10:39:42
Here are a couple of quotes from a Illini-based scouting
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GeorgiaTiger76
MU
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11/1 08:53:55
A change of scenery a lot of times does a ton of good
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tgr
MU
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11/1 08:47:39
I agree. I want him to do well.
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tjwheeler
UI
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11/1 10:23:28
RE: I agree. I want him to do well.
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GeorgiaTiger76
MU
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11/1 10:36:21
RE: I agree. I want him to do well.
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tjwheeler
UI
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11/1 10:40:13
Here's your own coach talking about him:
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GeorgiaTiger76
MU
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11/1 10:44:15
Coachspeak.
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tjwheeler
UI
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11/1 10:46:46
But you said it was because of physical limitations.
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GeorgiaTiger76
MU
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11/1 10:47:55
You're not very logical here.
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tjwheeler
UI
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11/1 10:52:53
So Underwood can't identify athleticism effectively?
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GeorgiaTiger76
MU
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11/1 10:58:11
That's both a flawed generalization and a tangent.
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tjwheeler
UI
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11/1 11:07:41
I concur I don't think any University of Illinois
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ASecondChance
MU
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11/1 08:51:49
I don't think that is correct.
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tjwheeler
UI
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11/1 11:26:40
You can continue to to try to blame
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ASecondChance
MU
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11/1 12:21:58
I am not blaming his parents for MS going to Illinois.
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tjwheeler
UI
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11/1 12:44:28
Those are all connected
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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11/1 08:51:37
GO AWAY TROLL, your fan base hates Missouri *
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RNcaud
MU
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11/1 08:39:35
No point in beating a dead horse, we'll find out soon enough
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Yosa125
TAMU
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11/1 07:43:29
no, just pointing out what he did last year.
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tjwheeler
UI
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11/1 07:52:22
You have no idea if it was mental, physical, etc.(nm)
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GeorgiaTiger76
MU
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11/1 08:16:27
Yeah, an average handle, no go to offensive moves
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tjwheeler
UI
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11/1 08:19:59
lol
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GeorgiaTiger76
MU
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11/1 08:33:43
Of course. He’s a year older.
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tjwheeler
UI
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11/1 16:49:55
no one said it was just mental
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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11/1 08:07:32
“Most of it seemed to be mental”
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tjwheeler
UI
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11/1 08:18:52
True and I stand by that opinion
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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11/1 08:29:40
You stand by the position you stated and then denied
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tjwheeler
UI
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11/1 10:25:17
Mostly mental is not all mental
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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11/1 11:03:56
Frankie Hughes had a 82.5 ORTG in 578 minutes and
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tjwheeler
UI
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11/1 11:14:01
Mark will start at Mizzou
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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11/1 12:21:14
Starting over whom?
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tjwheeler
UI
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11/1 12:28:18
A bunch of other players with similar questions
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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11/1 12:32:34
Those 5 look likely.
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tjwheeler
UI
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11/1 12:37:16
Who knows until we see them
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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11/1 12:54:35
I think you are an Illinois fan
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ASecondChance
MU
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11/1 07:33:02
Sure.
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tjwheeler
UI
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11/1 07:49:51
Illinois better hope that Mark Smith
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ChuckM
MU
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11/1 09:18:50
Why? I hope he does.
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tjwheeler
UI
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11/1 10:26:25
Like lontimereader stated it's time to "move on"
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ASecondChance
MU
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11/1 08:42:01
I like the guy and want him to do well.
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tjwheeler
UI
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11/1 10:29:21
Stop It..................you dont like Mark Smith
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ASecondChance
MU
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11/1 12:29:03
I do like him personally.
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tjwheeler
UI
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11/1 12:47:57
can he run off screens and shoot open jumpers?(nm)
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SuperTone
MU
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11/1 07:19:43
Which is what EVERY player should be looking to do.
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GA Tiger
MU
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11/1 07:53:06
I think you’re onto something.
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tjwheeler
UI
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11/1 07:50:52
Having a competent coach will help too. Cuonzo's offensive
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GeorgiaTiger76
MU
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11/1 06:45:13
So which coach has the history of successful offenses?
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tjwheeler
UI
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11/1 06:53:02
Oops - my first reply didn't address your question very well
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GeorgiaTiger76
MU
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11/1 08:45:01
LOL...way to reduce it to a sample size of 1 year.
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tjwheeler
UI
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11/1 11:14:43
Sure it is.
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GeorgiaTiger76
MU
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11/1 08:13:02
Take away his Stephen f Austin years where he was beating
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lqf2b8
MU
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11/1 07:17:32
Take away those years? LOL.
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tjwheeler
UI
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11/1 07:54:08
Yes ignore his mid major success and you have a
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kcnorthside
KC
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11/1 10:02:18
Below average huh?
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tjwheeler
UI
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11/1 10:30:46
Absolute crap?
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GeorgiaTiger76
MU
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11/1 10:39:27
Which ignores
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tjwheeler
UI
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11/1 10:42:10
You're right - Cuonzo did a far better job at attracting
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GeorgiaTiger76
MU
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11/1 10:46:18
If only the Porters had been from Champaign-Urbana.
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tjwheeler
UI
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11/1 10:47:54
He had the #1 offense according to KenPom
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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11/1 07:35:39
he blew out **** teams and lost to power 5 teams
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lqf2b8
MU
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11/1 09:12:51
It’s about fit in the system
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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11/1 07:15:38
Nope.
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GeorgiaTiger76
MU
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11/1 08:15:28
Puryear’s 3-point shooting dropped from
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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11/1 08:27:43
That was Jontay's role more than Puryear's.
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GeorgiaTiger76
MU
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11/1 08:33:20
3% increase in FG% isn’t significant
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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11/1 08:45:27
We can agree to disagree.
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GeorgiaTiger76
MU
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11/1 08:49:26