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hardly what I stated or implied, Bill. The league appears

Posted on: July 10, 2025 at 15:43:14 CT

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to be perfectly happy with a small number of massive budget teams dominating with good number of teams getting "magic years" and breaking through.

the competitive imbalance is inherent, not temporary.

Thinking you might have a chance to win a title every 30 or 40 years if you offset that inherent balance doesn't appeal all that much.

Cardinals were a very good payroll team and the imbalances weren't as pronounced as they are now - and the Cardinals appear to be pretty complacent with the annuity model.

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apathy has set in, Rockies are out drawing the Cards - tigerinhogtown STL - 7/10 13:05:59

Baseball gripped me for the first 55+ years of my life - Fred G. Sanford USA - 7/10 16:49:32

yes, yes, a 1000 times yes (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 7/10 19:23:43

Sorry, but the Cards are now in the same boat as the Royals - Carlos Rossi KC - 7/10 14:37:04

The royals really have had 5 winning seasons in the last 32 - 90Tiger STL - 7/10 15:44:39

in Rossi’s defense he’s talking about the present - Fire Marshall Bill STL - 7/10 16:25:29

This is correct. The Cards used to spend twice what the - Carlos Rossi KC - 7/10 16:38:09

you're kind of making the Cards' fans point here, you - 90Tiger STL - 7/10 19:24:14

Maybe it’s hyperbole or I’m just being a homer, but - kmawv8 MU - 7/10 16:32:56

You are just being a good fan, but realistically even with - Carlos Rossi KC - 7/10 16:48:03

LOL - Fire Marshall Bill STL - 7/10 16:53:26

He will be in time. You can see it. He just needs to lay - Carlos Rossi KC - 7/10 17:04:14

Cooperstown 🔒 for sure(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill STL - 7/10 17:11:07

LOL - easy now. Let's keep that boner in check.(nm) - Carlos Rossi KC - 7/10 17:42:39

If you're looking at the past you're absolutely right. - kmawv8 MU - 7/10 15:51:24

The payroll this year says you are in the exact same boat... - Carlos Rossi KC - 7/10 15:50:51

LOL(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill STL - 7/10 16:25:47

Five winning seasons in 32 years? I will be long gone - Erwin Fletcher STL - 7/10 15:17:27

sounds to me like great reasons to do something else - 90Tiger STL - 7/10 15:01:45

so you only believe attending games are a good experience - Fire Marshall Bill STL - 7/10 15:04:52

hardly what I stated or implied, Bill. The league appears - 90Tiger STL - 7/10 15:43:14

I think the league eventually will have to do something to - tgr MU

- 7/10 16:18:28

you said those sound like good reasons to skip going to - Fire Marshall Bill STL - 7/10 16:11:28

you altered it to "competing for a WS" - that's not - 90Tiger STL - 7/10 19:25:10

"one out from winning two in a row" - Fire Marshall Bill STL - 7/10 14:41:37

The HEAT is on... - Carlos Rossi KC - 7/10 14:43:55

The HEAT is gone - alwaysright MU - 7/10 14:49:17

LOL(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill STL - 7/10 14:46:29

when the new construction is done you won't be able to - TigerA MU - 7/10 14:14:07

It's all apathy due to a mediocre, aimless roster and - 90Tiger STL - 7/10 14:03:58

The Rockies are outdrawing both the Cards and the Royals - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 7/10 13:57:47

That's because their ballpark is across the street from one - Carlos Rossi KC - 7/10 14:28:02

You've cracked the code for MLB. Now they just need to - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 7/10 14:45:11

It helps for sure. Not saying you will sell out every game, - Carlos Rossi KC - 7/10 14:47:05

Coors field is def a destination ballpark - AWOLTiger KC - 7/10 14:03:33

I do like their ballpark and the area around it has some - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 7/10 14:06:05

LMAO - the heat. So many excuses in STL these days - Carlos Rossi KC - 7/10 13:22:31

i think he mentioned other, more critical issues than - 90Tiger STL - 7/10 14:04:36

RE: LMAO - the heat. So many excuses in STL these days - RolandMiz MU - 7/10 13:45:46

Worry about keeping the Cards in MO or you will be down to - Carlos Rossi KC - 7/10 13:49:03

Yes because to avoid STL safety issues, East St. Louis is - McMuffin MU - 7/10 14:10:03

Rumor is Nelly is going to move the Cards to IL and - Carlos Rossi KC - 7/10 14:17:15

I saw Nelly live one time. It was at halftime of the Chiefs - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 7/10 14:21:15

Concannon doing the SuperBowl would get my attention... - Carlos Rossi KC - 7/10 14:25:06

kU Royals coming soon (nm) - mizzouSECedes STL - 7/10 13:57:04

RE: Worry about keeping the Cards in MO or you will be down to - RolandMiz MU - 7/10 13:50:02

nope, more the hassle and expense of parking - tigerinhogtown STL - 7/10 13:27:01

No one is going to the games. Parking can't be the issue.(nm) - Carlos Rossi KC - 7/10 13:28:48

20k people is still a parking hassle(nm) - tigerinhogtown STL - 7/10 13:30:23

Also why is it just now an "issue." It's another excuse - Carlos Rossi KC - 7/10 13:33:30

safety is not a factor, no matter how much you hope - 90Tiger STL - 7/10 14:09:24

If I wanted to go to a game I would not hesitate for one - sprintcar STL - 7/10 14:13:24

What has changed is the team is not very good and - sprintcar STL - 7/10 13:50:58

LOL, they are winning. - kmawv8 MU - 7/10 13:57:16

I want to watch championship caliber teams. This team is - sprintcar STL - 7/10 14:11:16

Everyone wants to watch championship caliber teams. - kmawv8 MU - 7/10 14:14:22

Like I said, I've been through it for 60 years. If this - sprintcar STL - 7/10 14:22:32

Your honor I would like to show exhibt A: - Carlos Rossi KC - 7/10 14:20:23

You think that's a good example? Lol. Stan had his eye set - sprintcar STL - 7/10 14:26:22

good riddance. Owner didn't want to be in St. Louis, tanked - 90Tiger STL - 7/10 14:21:47

Not really. MLB has a $hit revenue model. If I live in Pit - 90Tiger STL - 7/10 14:20:11

I said "if you expect them to stay". - kmawv8 MU - 7/10 14:30:35

Carlos is too stupid to realize this - Hickeytime MU

- 7/10 13:56:33

The team is not good? LOL. They are winning. You would - Carlos Rossi KC - 7/10 13:58:12

You should really make up your mind here - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 7/10 14:01:12

They are good, but not competitive for a World Series - Carlos Rossi KC - 7/10 14:08:29

It's nuts. Cards exceed expectations (in regards to today's - kmawv8 MU - 7/10 14:04:01

Eh, I do think the front office deserves some criticism. - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 7/10 14:16:09

expection $hit and getting "surprisingly just above - 90Tiger STL - 7/10 14:10:42

If you make the playoffs in baseball, you have a - kmawv8 MU - 7/10 14:22:31

and if you can pitch Miles Fvcking Mikolas, you don't - 90Tiger STL - 7/10 14:24:06

this team has ZERO chance. Zero. They are an - 90Tiger STL - 7/10 14:23:35

It’s July 10th - Hickeytime MU

- 7/10 14:00:18

I think we have over half of a season sample size - kmawv8 MU - 7/10 14:01:36

We’ll see what happens - Hickeytime MU

- 7/10 14:06:10

You have no faith in a team that still has Big Mac Land??? - Carlos Rossi KC - 7/10 14:12:50

14 year old Carlos has entered the room - Hickeytime MU

- 7/10 14:15:19

I'm not saying they're definitely making the playoffs - kmawv8 MU - 7/10 14:09:43

I actually feel better about next year - Hickeytime MU

- 7/10 14:19:47

Judging by what I have seen you won't be in a seat at - Carlos Rossi KC - 7/10 14:21:37

I don't know if you know this, but nobody GAF (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 7/10 14:24:35

IT's too DAMN HOT!!! and there is No ample parking!!! - Carlos Rossi KC - 7/10 14:14:44

Competitive? It's been almost 15 years since they won a - Carlos Rossi KC - 7/10 13:55:03

because it used to be worth the hassle but when ownership - tigerinhogtown STL - 7/10 13:38:42

Also, only 2 losing seasons in 25 years and you're throwing - kmawv8 MU - 7/10 13:44:30

trend. also very mediocre - just barely edging over .500 - - 90Tiger STL - 7/10 14:12:24

#1 is very Nebraska like. - kmawv8 MU - 7/10 13:41:47

not really - I expect this to be the future given the landsc - 90Tiger STL - 7/10 14:13:17

Very jayhawk like, but the Nubs and jayhawks still show - Carlos Rossi KC - 7/10 13:46:50

what does Jayhawk football draw?(nm) - tigerinhogtown STL - 7/10 13:48:42

I was talking about basketball of course. I didn't realize - Carlos Rossi KC - 7/10 13:49:31

It was a joke dumb ass.(nm) - Carlos Rossi KC - 7/10 13:58:47

Did you just call yourself a dumb ass? (nm) - Hickeytime MU

- 7/10 14:02:31

Mizzou plays them this year, dumb ass (nm) - Hickeytime MU

- 7/10 13:57:43

It was a joke dumb ass.(nm) - Carlos Rossi KC - 7/10 13:59:04

Jokes are funny - Hickeytime MU

- 7/10 14:01:38

because they win...not sure what keeps Nub fans coming - tigerinhogtown STL - 7/10 13:51:38

They are a good team this year, but not really competitive - Carlos Rossi KC - 7/10 13:57:21

"St. Louis" has been aware of this for 10 years (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 7/10 14:22:45

can't argue that at all(nm) - tigerinhogtown STL - 7/10 13:58:52

Ummm, Cards are winning - kmawv8 MU - 7/10 13:54:20

Jayhawk fans would be happy with .500 - tigerinhogtown STL - 7/10 13:57:48

.500 isn't comparable across sports. - kmawv8 MU - 7/10 13:59:50

I almost left that off...you ignored the "not exciting" part - tigerinhogtown STL - 7/10 13:46:07

Exciting is different to different people. - kmawv8 MU - 7/10 13:48:35

Kids in STL are buying Mahomes, Bobby Witt, and Cags - Carlos Rossi KC - 7/10 13:47:36

exactly...nobody excites the locals and apathy sets in(nm) - tigerinhogtown STL - 7/10 13:49:38

I figured every kid in STL is wearing a Masyn Winn jersey. - kmawv8 MU - 7/10 13:52:32

maybe, but is that kid bugging his Dad to take him to a game - tigerinhogtown STL - 7/10 13:56:38

So now STL attendance is baseball's fault for losing the - kmawv8 MU - 7/10 13:58:39

RE: I figured every kid in STL is wearing a Masyn Winn jersey. - Fire Marshall Bill STL - 7/10 13:56:12

LMAO.(nm) - Carlos Rossi KC - 7/10 13:53:17

No it is not. I have been to tons of Cards games that were - Carlos Rossi KC - 7/10 13:31:42

So does this go to prove that all the BFIB stuff was - tgr MU

- 7/10 13:16:37

you needed proof it was bull****?(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill STL - 7/10 13:23:49

I didn't but many Cardinals fans did. - tgr MU

- 7/10 13:30:38

“better fans”, LOL(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill STL - 7/10 13:31:41

They do cheer when a player hustles down to first - tgr MU

- 7/10 13:38:17

I heard a Cards fan tell me they are knowledgable because - Carlos Rossi KC - 7/10 13:50:48

The BFIB are not happy!!! They are still the most - Carlos Rossi KC - 7/10 13:36:42

to be fair, it's been a really disappointing season - Fire Marshall Bill STL - 7/10 13:41:25

Right? - kmawv8 MU - 7/10 13:42:31

it's a joke(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill STL - 7/10 13:44:43

Ummm, I know. - kmawv8 MU - 7/10 13:46:05

yes, I was saying that the attendance and the excuses - Fire Marshall Bill STL - 7/10 13:51:43

There is a lot of sacrasm flying in this thread. Lol(nm) - Carlos Rossi KC - 7/10 13:48:21

And even more stupidly (nm) - Hickeytime MU

- 7/10 15:01:25

what is being thrown around even more stupidly, the - Fire Marshall Bill STL - 7/10 15:10:19

That’s a good bit of it - Hickeytime MU

- 7/10 15:13:16

I bailed long before that. When games got hard to find - tigerinhogtown STL - 7/10 13:23:44

embarrassing - Fire Marshall Bill STL - 7/10 13:11:05

For us fans - kmawv8 MU - 7/10 13:26:17

I'm still a big Cards fan, but what they are doing is - Carlos Rossi KC - 7/10 13:29:58

What who is doing? (nm) - kmawv8 MU - 7/10 13:31:23

This is the time of the year when fans say f*** it - Bosalphus KC - 7/10 13:07:46

It's definitely different though. Not just STL but KC too. (nm) - mizzou john MU

- 7/10 14:39:10

starting the game before 7 doesn't make sense either(nm) - tigerinhogtown STL - 7/10 13:08:46

The funniest part about the attendance is it is only going - Carlos Rossi KC - 7/10 13:28:03

Especially with the pitch clock and sped up games. - kmawv8 MU - 7/10 13:15:43

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