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because it used to be worth the hassle but when ownership

Posted on: July 10, 2025 at 13:38:42 CT
tigerinhogtown STL
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don't care why should fans?

1) they are not exciting to watch / bad
2) owners aren't doing anything about it
3) it's hot
4) parking is expensive / a hassle

1 & 2 control, 3 & 4 are the straw
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apathy has set in, Rockies are out drawing the Cards - tigerinhogtown STL - 7/10 13:05:59
     Baseball gripped me for the first 55+ years of my life - Fred G. Sanford USA - 7/10 16:49:32
          yes, yes, a 1000 times yes (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 7/10 19:23:43
     Sorry, but the Cards are now in the same boat as the Royals - Carlos Rossi KC - 7/10 14:37:04
          The royals really have had 5 winning seasons in the last 32 - 90Tiger STL - 7/10 15:44:39
               in Rossi’s defense he’s talking about the present - Fire Marshall Bill STL - 7/10 16:25:29
                    This is correct. The Cards used to spend twice what the - Carlos Rossi KC - 7/10 16:38:09
                         you're kind of making the Cards' fans point here, you - 90Tiger STL - 7/10 19:24:14
                    Maybe it’s hyperbole or I’m just being a homer, but - kmawv8 MU - 7/10 16:32:56
                         You are just being a good fan, but realistically even with - Carlos Rossi KC - 7/10 16:48:03
                              LOL - Fire Marshall Bill STL - 7/10 16:53:26
                                   He will be in time. You can see it. He just needs to lay - Carlos Rossi KC - 7/10 17:04:14
                                        Cooperstown 🔒 for sure(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill STL - 7/10 17:11:07
                                             LOL - easy now. Let's keep that boner in check.(nm) - Carlos Rossi KC - 7/10 17:42:39
               If you're looking at the past you're absolutely right. - kmawv8 MU - 7/10 15:51:24
               The payroll this year says you are in the exact same boat... - Carlos Rossi KC - 7/10 15:50:51
                    LOL(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill STL - 7/10 16:25:47
          Five winning seasons in 32 years? I will be long gone - Erwin Fletcher STL - 7/10 15:17:27
          sounds to me like great reasons to do something else - 90Tiger STL - 7/10 15:01:45
               so you only believe attending games are a good experience - Fire Marshall Bill STL - 7/10 15:04:52
                    hardly what I stated or implied, Bill. The league appears - 90Tiger STL - 7/10 15:43:14
                         I think the league eventually will have to do something to - tgr MU - 7/10 16:18:28
                         you said those sound like good reasons to skip going to - Fire Marshall Bill STL - 7/10 16:11:28
                              you altered it to "competing for a WS" - that's not - 90Tiger STL - 7/10 19:25:10
          "one out from winning two in a row" - Fire Marshall Bill STL - 7/10 14:41:37
               The HEAT is on... - Carlos Rossi KC - 7/10 14:43:55
                    The HEAT is gone - alwaysright MU - 7/10 14:49:17
                    LOL(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill STL - 7/10 14:46:29
     when the new construction is done you won't be able to - TigerA MU - 7/10 14:14:07
     It's all apathy due to a mediocre, aimless roster and - 90Tiger STL - 7/10 14:03:58
     The Rockies are outdrawing both the Cards and the Royals - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 7/10 13:57:47
          That's because their ballpark is across the street from one - Carlos Rossi KC - 7/10 14:28:02
               You've cracked the code for MLB. Now they just need to - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 7/10 14:45:11
                    It helps for sure. Not saying you will sell out every game, - Carlos Rossi KC - 7/10 14:47:05
          Coors field is def a destination ballpark - AWOLTiger KC - 7/10 14:03:33
               I do like their ballpark and the area around it has some - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 7/10 14:06:05
     LMAO - the heat. So many excuses in STL these days - Carlos Rossi KC - 7/10 13:22:31
          i think he mentioned other, more critical issues than - 90Tiger STL - 7/10 14:04:36
          RE: LMAO - the heat. So many excuses in STL these days - RolandMiz MU - 7/10 13:45:46
               Worry about keeping the Cards in MO or you will be down to - Carlos Rossi KC - 7/10 13:49:03
                    Yes because to avoid STL safety issues, East St. Louis is - McMuffin MU - 7/10 14:10:03
                         Rumor is Nelly is going to move the Cards to IL and - Carlos Rossi KC - 7/10 14:17:15
                              I saw Nelly live one time. It was at halftime of the Chiefs - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 7/10 14:21:15
                                   Concannon doing the SuperBowl would get my attention... - Carlos Rossi KC - 7/10 14:25:06
                    kU Royals coming soon (nm) - mizzouSECedes STL - 7/10 13:57:04
                    RE: Worry about keeping the Cards in MO or you will be down to - RolandMiz MU - 7/10 13:50:02
          nope, more the hassle and expense of parking - tigerinhogtown STL - 7/10 13:27:01
               No one is going to the games. Parking can't be the issue.(nm) - Carlos Rossi KC - 7/10 13:28:48
                    20k people is still a parking hassle(nm) - tigerinhogtown STL - 7/10 13:30:23
                         Also why is it just now an "issue." It's another excuse - Carlos Rossi KC - 7/10 13:33:30
                              safety is not a factor, no matter how much you hope - 90Tiger STL - 7/10 14:09:24
                                   If I wanted to go to a game I would not hesitate for one - sprintcar STL - 7/10 14:13:24
                              What has changed is the team is not very good and - sprintcar STL - 7/10 13:50:58
                                   LOL, they are winning. - kmawv8 MU - 7/10 13:57:16
                                        I want to watch championship caliber teams. This team is - sprintcar STL - 7/10 14:11:16
                                             Everyone wants to watch championship caliber teams. - kmawv8 MU - 7/10 14:14:22
                                                  Like I said, I've been through it for 60 years. If this - sprintcar STL - 7/10 14:22:32
                                                  Your honor I would like to show exhibt A: - Carlos Rossi KC - 7/10 14:20:23
                                                       You think that's a good example? Lol. Stan had his eye set - sprintcar STL - 7/10 14:26:22
                                                       good riddance. Owner didn't want to be in St. Louis, tanked - 90Tiger STL - 7/10 14:21:47
                                                  Not really. MLB has a $hit revenue model. If I live in Pit - 90Tiger STL - 7/10 14:20:11
                                                       I said "if you expect them to stay". - kmawv8 MU - 7/10 14:30:35
                                   Carlos is too stupid to realize this - Hickeytime MU - 7/10 13:56:33
                                        The team is not good? LOL. They are winning. You would - Carlos Rossi KC - 7/10 13:58:12
                                             You should really make up your mind here - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 7/10 14:01:12
                                                  They are good, but not competitive for a World Series - Carlos Rossi KC - 7/10 14:08:29
                                                  It's nuts. Cards exceed expectations (in regards to today's - kmawv8 MU - 7/10 14:04:01
                                                       Eh, I do think the front office deserves some criticism. - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 7/10 14:16:09
                                                       expection $hit and getting "surprisingly just above - 90Tiger STL - 7/10 14:10:42
                                                            If you make the playoffs in baseball, you have a - kmawv8 MU - 7/10 14:22:31
                                                                 and if you can pitch Miles Fvcking Mikolas, you don't - 90Tiger STL - 7/10 14:24:06
                                                                 this team has ZERO chance. Zero. They are an - 90Tiger STL - 7/10 14:23:35
                                             It’s July 10th - Hickeytime MU - 7/10 14:00:18
                                                  I think we have over half of a season sample size - kmawv8 MU - 7/10 14:01:36
                                                       We’ll see what happens - Hickeytime MU - 7/10 14:06:10
                                                            You have no faith in a team that still has Big Mac Land??? - Carlos Rossi KC - 7/10 14:12:50
                                                                 14 year old Carlos has entered the room - Hickeytime MU - 7/10 14:15:19
                                                            I'm not saying they're definitely making the playoffs - kmawv8 MU - 7/10 14:09:43
                                                                 I actually feel better about next year - Hickeytime MU - 7/10 14:19:47
                                                                      Judging by what I have seen you won't be in a seat at - Carlos Rossi KC - 7/10 14:21:37
                                                                           I don't know if you know this, but nobody GAF (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 7/10 14:24:35
                                                                 IT's too DAMN HOT!!! and there is No ample parking!!! - Carlos Rossi KC - 7/10 14:14:44
                                   Competitive? It's been almost 15 years since they won a - Carlos Rossi KC - 7/10 13:55:03
                              because it used to be worth the hassle but when ownership - tigerinhogtown STL - 7/10 13:38:42
                                   Also, only 2 losing seasons in 25 years and you're throwing - kmawv8 MU - 7/10 13:44:30
                                        trend. also very mediocre - just barely edging over .500 - - 90Tiger STL - 7/10 14:12:24
                                   #1 is very Nebraska like. - kmawv8 MU - 7/10 13:41:47
                                        not really - I expect this to be the future given the landsc - 90Tiger STL - 7/10 14:13:17
                                        Very jayhawk like, but the Nubs and jayhawks still show - Carlos Rossi KC - 7/10 13:46:50
                                             what does Jayhawk football draw?(nm) - tigerinhogtown STL - 7/10 13:48:42
                                                  I was talking about basketball of course. I didn't realize - Carlos Rossi KC - 7/10 13:49:31
                                                       It was a joke dumb ass.(nm) - Carlos Rossi KC - 7/10 13:58:47
                                                            Did you just call yourself a dumb ass? (nm) - Hickeytime MU - 7/10 14:02:31
                                                       Mizzou plays them this year, dumb ass (nm) - Hickeytime MU - 7/10 13:57:43
                                                            It was a joke dumb ass.(nm) - Carlos Rossi KC - 7/10 13:59:04
                                                                 Jokes are funny - Hickeytime MU - 7/10 14:01:38
                                                       because they win...not sure what keeps Nub fans coming - tigerinhogtown STL - 7/10 13:51:38
                                                            They are a good team this year, but not really competitive - Carlos Rossi KC - 7/10 13:57:21
                                                                 "St. Louis" has been aware of this for 10 years (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 7/10 14:22:45
                                                                 can't argue that at all(nm) - tigerinhogtown STL - 7/10 13:58:52
                                                            Ummm, Cards are winning - kmawv8 MU - 7/10 13:54:20
                                                                 Jayhawk fans would be happy with .500 - tigerinhogtown STL - 7/10 13:57:48
                                                                      .500 isn't comparable across sports. - kmawv8 MU - 7/10 13:59:50
                                        I almost left that off...you ignored the "not exciting" part - tigerinhogtown STL - 7/10 13:46:07
                                             Exciting is different to different people. - kmawv8 MU - 7/10 13:48:35
                                             Kids in STL are buying Mahomes, Bobby Witt, and Cags - Carlos Rossi KC - 7/10 13:47:36
                                                  exactly...nobody excites the locals and apathy sets in(nm) - tigerinhogtown STL - 7/10 13:49:38
                                                       I figured every kid in STL is wearing a Masyn Winn jersey. - kmawv8 MU - 7/10 13:52:32
                                                            maybe, but is that kid bugging his Dad to take him to a game - tigerinhogtown STL - 7/10 13:56:38
                                                                 So now STL attendance is baseball's fault for losing the - kmawv8 MU - 7/10 13:58:39
                                                            RE: I figured every kid in STL is wearing a Masyn Winn jersey. - Fire Marshall Bill STL - 7/10 13:56:12
                                                            LMAO.(nm) - Carlos Rossi KC - 7/10 13:53:17
                         No it is not. I have been to tons of Cards games that were - Carlos Rossi KC - 7/10 13:31:42
     So does this go to prove that all the BFIB stuff was - tgr MU - 7/10 13:16:37
          you needed proof it was bull****?(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill STL - 7/10 13:23:49
               I didn't but many Cardinals fans did. - tgr MU - 7/10 13:30:38
                    “better fans”, LOL(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill STL - 7/10 13:31:41
                         They do cheer when a player hustles down to first - tgr MU - 7/10 13:38:17
                              I heard a Cards fan tell me they are knowledgable because - Carlos Rossi KC - 7/10 13:50:48
                         The BFIB are not happy!!! They are still the most - Carlos Rossi KC - 7/10 13:36:42
                              to be fair, it's been a really disappointing season - Fire Marshall Bill STL - 7/10 13:41:25
                                   Right? - kmawv8 MU - 7/10 13:42:31
                                        it's a joke(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill STL - 7/10 13:44:43
                                             Ummm, I know. - kmawv8 MU - 7/10 13:46:05
                                                  yes, I was saying that the attendance and the excuses - Fire Marshall Bill STL - 7/10 13:51:43
                                                  There is a lot of sacrasm flying in this thread. Lol(nm) - Carlos Rossi KC - 7/10 13:48:21
                                                       And even more stupidly (nm) - Hickeytime MU - 7/10 15:01:25
                                                            what is being thrown around even more stupidly, the - Fire Marshall Bill STL - 7/10 15:10:19
                                                                 That’s a good bit of it - Hickeytime MU - 7/10 15:13:16
          I bailed long before that. When games got hard to find - tigerinhogtown STL - 7/10 13:23:44
     embarrassing - Fire Marshall Bill STL - 7/10 13:11:05
          For us fans - kmawv8 MU - 7/10 13:26:17
               I'm still a big Cards fan, but what they are doing is - Carlos Rossi KC - 7/10 13:29:58
                    What who is doing? (nm) - kmawv8 MU - 7/10 13:31:23
     This is the time of the year when fans say f*** it - Bosalphus KC - 7/10 13:07:46
          It's definitely different though. Not just STL but KC too. (nm) - mizzou john MU - 7/10 14:39:10
          starting the game before 7 doesn't make sense either(nm) - tigerinhogtown STL - 7/10 13:08:46
               The funniest part about the attendance is it is only going - Carlos Rossi KC - 7/10 13:28:03
               Especially with the pitch clock and sped up games. - kmawv8 MU - 7/10 13:15:43




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