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RE: He's refusing to blame the gov't

Posted on: August 15, 2024 at 13:08:55 CT
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You are incorrect. You are taking the ideological line on this one. Not me. And if you are going to blame the government for handouts, then Trump should receive equal blame. But that really isn't why it happened. You are blaming the government for too much money in circulation and completely ignoring the supply side of supply and demand. The government had a role but it wasn't the primary role. In fact, I'd say the government's role in shutting down the economy which created shortages was probably greater than the bailout issue.

But it wasn't totally the result of the government. My company voluntarily shut down drilling during Covid for health concerns. Later, the lack of demand and price drops insured drilling stayed shut down.
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Who on this board believes the inflation under the - Sal CMSU - 8/15 12:00:10
     They certainly are a big factor. (nm) - go tigers MU - 8/15 20:37:00
     i don't, but if I were a Dem and did, I'd stop trying to - 90Tiger STL - 8/15 14:13:00
     So so many things - meatiger MU - 8/15 13:57:25
     inflation has no one "the fault" - JG A - 8/15 13:37:58
          What are corporations gauging to cause inflation? - Sal CMSU - 8/15 13:38:57
               I wonder why a mad man's posts - Wildcat KSU - 8/15 13:40:29
               gauges - JG A - 8/15 13:40:20
                    This qualifies more as a "straw man" than any time you've - MIZ45 MU - 8/15 14:07:57
     Who on here believes that it was the result of anything - ummmm MU - 8/15 13:07:29
          everybody with an understanding of inflation - JG A - 8/15 13:54:06
               ....this is where you give him a proper understanding - MIZ45 MU - 8/15 14:08:47
          Rapid expansion of the money supply in the hands of consumer - BH O'bonga MU - 8/15 13:12:39
          according to the responses - Sal CMSU - 8/15 13:08:01
     That is a stupid notion presented by ignorant - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 8/15 13:05:39
          Thankfully - meatiger MU - 8/15 14:05:34
          4tigsiny. correct but 4tigsiny - JG A - 8/15 13:54:52
     RE: Who on this board believes the inflation under the - MOCO SON MU - 8/15 13:02:14
          So you are saying that a supply crisis can drive inflation? - KC rules MU - 8/15 13:36:12
               RE: So you are saying that a supply crisis can drive inflation? - MOCO SON MU - 8/15 13:41:26
                    RE: So you are saying that a supply crisis can drive inflation? - KC rules MU - 8/15 13:42:57
                         RE: So you are saying that a supply crisis can drive inflation? - MOCO SON MU - 8/15 13:47:19
                              RE: So you are saying that a supply crisis can drive inflation? - KC rules MU - 8/15 13:50:08
                                   RE: So you are saying that a supply crisis can drive inflation? - MOCO SON MU - 8/15 13:52:57
                                        RE: So you are saying that a supply crisis can drive inflation? - KC rules MU - 8/15 13:57:51
                                             scarcity of a critical product does not cause inflation. It - 90Tiger STL - 8/15 14:26:43
                                                  RE: scarcity of a critical product does not cause inflation. It - KC rules MU - 8/15 14:39:18
                                                       False. Inflation is an increase in the supply of money (fiat - 90Tiger STL - 8/15 14:44:44
                                             RE: So you are saying that a supply crisis can drive inflation? - MOCO SON MU - 8/15 14:24:43
                                                  I was speaking primarily about supply and demand and impact - KC rules MU - 8/15 14:45:40
     Partially, but not majoratively(nm) - AWOLTiger KC - 8/15 12:50:09
          Explain the corporate part...........nm - tigertix MU - 8/15 12:55:04
               Poor management - AWOLTiger KC - 8/15 13:05:30
                    Thanks, makes sense...had forgotten about that waste fraud - tigertix MU - 8/15 13:47:15
     worldwide or just in the U.S.? (nm) - KCT-BoneTiger MU - 8/15 12:35:52
     RE: Who on this board believes the inflation under the - sarasotatiger MU - 8/15 12:28:06
          They shouldn't be meddling with any of it (nm) - Sal CMSU - 8/15 12:29:36
     RE: Who on this board believes the inflation under the - KC rules MU - 8/15 12:14:49
          seems like you left out the largest issue (nm) - Sal CMSU - 8/15 12:21:21
               RE: seems like you left out the largest issue (nm) - KC rules MU - 8/15 12:37:23
                    "didn't help" ... no they were the main driver (nm) - Sal CMSU - 8/15 12:38:00
                         RE: "didn't help" ... no they were the main driver (nm) - KC rules MU - 8/15 12:39:04
                              dude, printing fiat currency = inflation (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 8/15 14:15:32
                              maybe not, but he's correct in this case (nm) - Sal CMSU - 8/15 12:40:21
                                   RE: maybe not, but he's correct in this case (nm) - KC rules MU - 8/15 12:45:23
                                        and? (nm) - Sal CMSU - 8/15 12:47:32
                                             He answered everything... - Gyro STL - 8/15 12:56:37
                                                  He's refusing to blame the gov't - Sal CMSU - 8/15 12:57:55
                                                       RE: He's refusing to blame the gov't - KC rules MU - 8/15 13:08:55
                                                            During COVID I argued with Sal multiple times... - Gyro STL - 8/15 13:13:49
                                                                 I never once said some businesses wouldn't - Sal CMSU - 8/15 13:16:01
                                                                      No, you blamed the government for ruining many businesses... - Gyro STL - 8/15 13:20:35
                                                                           The gov't ruined plenty of businesses - Sal CMSU - 8/15 13:21:07
                                                                                I'm not going to rehash this argument again (again)... - Gyro STL - 8/15 13:23:13
                                                                                     Again, I never said a business shouldn't close down if they - Sal CMSU - 8/15 13:25:21
                                                                                          You can't read... - Gyro STL - 8/15 13:27:09
                                                                                               The gov't absolutely got in the way - Sal CMSU - 8/15 13:28:29
                                                                                                    CANNOT READ or LYING… - Gyro STL - 8/15 17:05:28
                                                            I have blamed Trump plenty of times for it - Sal CMSU - 8/15 13:09:55
                                                                 RE: I have blamed Trump plenty of times for it - KC rules MU - 8/15 13:17:25
                                                                      it's not really that complicated (nm) - Sal CMSU - 8/15 13:18:38
                                                                           It's not a simple response - KC rules MU - 8/15 13:23:46
                                                                                inflation =/= price increases . Now, go rethink this - 90Tiger STL - 8/15 14:16:40
                                                                                     Your definition is somewhat archaic. - KC rules MU - 8/15 15:04:22
                                                                                          No, it's the definition. price increases is not "inflation" - 90Tiger STL - 8/15 15:09:42
                                                                                               That's the way the world defines it. If you want to define - KC rules MU - 8/15 15:14:58
                                                                                                    no, your position makes no sense because you - 90Tiger STL - 8/15 19:10:39
                                                                                                         I get that an increase in the supply of money can cause - KC rules MU - 8/15 19:37:46
                                                       Well he didn't blame the government because... - Gyro STL - 8/15 13:02:07
                                                            He didn't want to blame the current admin - Sal CMSU - 8/15 13:03:20
                                                                 You wanted him to do that and he didn't... - Gyro STL - 8/15 13:04:15
                                                                      lol I'm not mad at all - Sal CMSU - 8/15 13:05:43
                                                                           You're certainly extremely intimidating... - Gyro STL - 8/15 13:10:38
                                                                                I never said I was intimidating (nm) - Sal CMSU - 8/15 13:12:15
                                                                                     Yeah I was being ironic(nm) - Gyro STL - 8/15 13:14:45
                                                                           funny - KC rules MU - 8/15 13:09:59
                                                                                I'm not (nm) - Sal CMSU - 8/15 13:10:25
     When was the Harris Admin? you confusing that with - raskolnikov MU - 8/15 12:05:29
          Yeah and if that happens Trump and the Right Wing Media... - Gyro STL - 8/15 12:58:57
               So in the end the gov't has no impact on inflation? - Sal CMSU - 8/15 13:00:36
                    So you've made a rule out of an example? - Gyro STL - 8/15 13:05:35
                         Did the Biden admin have a negative impact - Sal CMSU - 8/15 13:06:41
          Stupid articles(nm) - Spanky KU - 8/15 12:56:11
          Some of those record profits are from the Big Government - JeffB MU - 8/15 12:11:43
               RE: Some of those record profits are from the Big Government - sarasotatiger MU - 8/15 12:33:12
                    The size and the scope of the federal government was - JeffB MU - 8/15 14:36:33
               Got through half of that, then burst out laughing(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 8/15 12:15:13
                    That is undoubtedly due to the cognitive dissidence you - JeffB MU - 8/15 14:38:24
                    Sudden and maniacal outbursts - Wildcat KSU - 8/15 12:16:41
          Why wouldn't she want to take credit for her role? - Th8tnTiger MU - 8/15 12:09:44
               Where is she doing that? That had a great admin, though - raskolnikov MU - 8/15 12:18:33
                    ROFLMAO - why isn't she running on Bidenomics then? - Reagan STL - 8/15 12:36:04
                    had? so she is in charge now? (nm) - Sal CMSU - 8/15 12:20:54
                    Are you saying - Wildcat KSU - 8/15 12:19:52
               but also take credit at the same time - Sal CMSU - 8/15 12:10:39
          Biden is no longer with us so it's her admin - Sal CMSU - 8/15 12:07:57
               He's still President I think Sal... - Gyro STL - 8/15 12:57:39
                    He's not mentally fit enough to be POTUS again - Sal CMSU - 8/15 12:58:45
                         You don't understand the difference between serving... - Gyro STL - 8/15 13:00:18
                              Use your eyes and brain instead of your partisan talking - 90Tiger STL - 8/15 14:18:41
                              Gotcha ... he's mentally fit right now - Sal CMSU - 8/15 13:01:29
                                   I'd explain the concept of nuance to you but that... - Gyro STL - 8/15 13:03:29
                                        I'd gladly make this argument in public - Sal CMSU - 8/15 13:05:21
                                             I think people might bring up to you the concept... - Gyro STL - 8/15 13:08:06
                                                  How is it complicated? - Sal CMSU - 8/15 13:09:23
               Be a fool all you want boy(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 8/15 12:08:31
                    Do you think corporations just all suddenly decided to - MIZ45 MU - 8/15 12:09:17
                         And if so, why did they just become greedy once Joey - Wildcat KSU - 8/15 12:15:47
                    Do you agree with her proposal for price controls? (nm) - Sal CMSU - 8/15 12:09:04
     Some corporations bear some of the responsibility, or at - JeffB MU - 8/15 12:05:17
          "big government liberals" - meatiger MU - 8/15 13:51:00
          RE: Some corporations bear some of the responsibility, or at - sarasotatiger MU - 8/15 12:34:53
          RE: Some corporations bear some of the responsibility, or at - JayHoaxH8r MU - 8/15 12:28:52
               DJT's policies do bear some of the responsibility, no doubt. - JeffB MU - 8/15 15:42:44
     RE: Who on this board believes the inflation under the - MIZ45 MU - 8/15 12:04:08
          lol kudos to him for responding - Sal CMSU - 8/15 12:05:01
               Yep, I'm surprised he hasn't taken me up on my offer to - MIZ45 MU - 8/15 12:07:35




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