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Posted on: May 14, 2024 at 09:23:13 CT
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worded your questions poorly for the lame points you are trying to further.

You don't deserve this, but here you go:

Terrorists or criminals to launch an assault on a school, a college, a shopping mall or a hospital, should the police have to stand down, ignore the information and allow the crimes to take place?

If they know a crime is about to be committed (i.e. an actual crime, based on actual physical action and not just threats of doing it), then the police should intercede at the point that the crime is to occur (not just talking about it). You worded your question poorly and you got the response you deserved here.

Should criminals be allowed to plan their crimes either in public or private without anyone infringing upon their rights to do so?

Yes. It's not a crime (actual physical crime) to sit around and talk with people about what you want to do. It's the "doing" that is the crime.

The right to free speech permits planning, organizing, preparation, and discussions about their upcoming attacks. Is that correct?

Planning, organizing, preparation aren't necessarily speech. Speech is words and thoughts. That's not to say that I think the govt should arrest people before they actually commit crimes on the basis that they may be planning to commit crimes. It's just not speech. As to "discussions", that is speech and "yes" the freedom of speech extends to speech.

Is there any reason or excuse to ever, ever have intelligence either from military or law-enforcement to prevent criminal activity?

If you know that criminal activity is to actually occur, then go ahead and stop it at the point that it is occurring. That's different than punishing speech.
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     I don't know if I get your point. - CulturedDan KC - 5/14 08:59:58
          So you believe that the right to freedom of speech does not - hokie VT - 5/14 09:47:40
               Ok, thx princess. Now run along!(nm) - CulturedDan KC - 5/14 10:51:30
               Read the second and fourth ammendment. - CulturedDan KC - 5/14 10:00:55
     crimes can be stopped - meatiger MU - 5/14 08:52:15
          If it’s not a crime, then why would they be stopping it? (nm) - Outsider MU - 5/14 08:54:36
               Should have said more prevented - meatiger MU - 5/14 09:06:47
          Always appreciate answers with no supporting facts or - hokie VT - 5/14 09:12:13
               You asked "yes" or "no" questions, but as I noted you - ummmm MU - 5/14 09:23:13
                    Does it bother you at all to have to work so hard to spin - hokie VT - 5/14 09:39:50
                         good grief you're a pathetic permanently ignorant - 90Tiger STL - 5/14 18:40:39
                         Hokie, by your own standards, you should be arrested - TigerMatt STL - 5/14 11:13:02
                         The optimist in me wants to say this is an act. - CulturedDan KC - 5/14 09:44:00
                              Change the subject. Duh. Nm - hokie VT - 5/14 09:50:52
                                   You were the object of my post. There was no change - CulturedDan KC - 5/14 10:01:27
                         Do you not understand what the difference - meatiger MU - 5/14 09:41:11
               If you want long answers, don't ask yes or no questions (nm) - kmawv8 KC - 5/14 09:15:28
                    I keep thinking this is a discussion board. You think it's a - hokie VT - 5/14 09:49:47
                         I don't think you know what a "discussion" is(nm) - CulturedDan KC - 5/14 10:03:43
                    Also, what supporting facts would I even begin to include - ummmm MU - 5/14 09:17:31
                         BOAISY (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 5/14 09:21:22
                              Not very convincing, IMO(nm) - CulturedDan KC - 5/14 09:33:05
     Umm remember, "there is no middle ground". Nm - hokie VT - 5/14 08:36:30
          There is no middle ground between - ummmm MU - 5/14 08:48:06
               Living in a civilized society means there will be limits to - Outsider MU - 5/14 08:52:26
                    How is telling someone - meatiger MU - 5/14 09:08:18
                         I didn’t say that, I said there will be limits to - Outsider MU - 5/14 09:17:29
                              RE: I didn’t say that, I said there will be limits to - meatiger MU - 5/14 09:23:32
                                   We are a nation of laws, are we not? Do you - Outsider MU - 5/14 09:24:42
                                        RE: We are a nation of laws, are we not? Do you - meatiger MU - 5/14 09:27:48
                                             So how do you define freedom? Because this discussion just - Outsider MU - 5/14 09:31:42
                                                  RE: So how do you define freedom? Because this discussion just - meatiger MU - 5/14 09:32:42
                                                       Ok fine, so you don’t believe we are a nation of laws… - Outsider MU - 5/14 09:35:36
                                                            I know we are a nation of laws - meatiger MU - 5/14 09:36:33
                                                                 Super! Then we have no more need to discuss this…. - Outsider MU - 5/14 09:38:53
                                                                      So you think any law - meatiger MU - 5/14 09:42:16
                                                                           Laws are in conflict with absolute freedom. So if you say - Outsider MU - 5/14 09:51:27
                                                                                lol, I never said that at all - meatiger MU - 5/14 10:03:19
                                                                                     Explain how that works. (nm) - Outsider MU - 5/14 10:07:31
                                                                                Good post. He probably doesn't understand it. Nm - hokie VT - 5/14 09:53:48
                         I think that's the argument that 4tigs tried to make - CulturedDan KC - 5/14 09:17:09
                              Depending on how you define punishment - meatiger MU - 5/14 09:25:15
                    right. We live in a civilized society. To protect the - CulturedDan KC - 5/14 09:02:05
                    Except when you arrest someone for speech alone, that - ummmm MU - 5/14 08:59:32
                         Nope, just know there is a difference between… - Outsider MU - 5/14 09:10:03
                              Sorry, I don't think we agree on free speech issues - ummmm MU - 5/14 09:13:04
                                   Ok, got it. (nm) - Outsider MU - 5/14 09:18:26
                                        Iiuc, He also believes that free speech allows for slander, - hokie VT - 5/14 10:05:24
                                             Ummm isn’t an anarchist. And there is no right to not - TigerMatt STL - 5/14 11:01:33




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